And 30 other teams. They're going to coin this move as the "KHunt" maneuver.

I don't really care if the NFL perma-bans him from the NFL, but I'll be pissed if this means he gets some time off, some other team gets him, and the Chiefs end up holding their dicks..

Don’t cum in crazy, no matter how hot she is.

Abused women act irrationally all the time. It's part of the abuse.

Come on people...why can't people just accept that Hill is a piece of shit without dragging her with it? Did she make dumb decisions? Of course. But she's also been beaten when she was pregnant and it looks like Hill has mentally and physically abused both her and the kid. The courts aren't going to hold those dumb decisions to stay against her. You don't know what's going on in her head and you also don't know what Hill has told her he'd do if she did leave him fully.

Or just don't hit your pregnant girlfriend and punch your 3 year old.

You guys are insane trying to flip this on her and her being "crazy".

Well, if she's hanging with and ****ing/sucking a person who did the other things you detailed in your post, isn't she crazy? Or did she think her juices were going to cure him?

Why do you think she was with him?

“You guys”?

You’ve got to be kidding.

Search my posts before grouping me in for ****s sakes. :facepalm:

Let it play out before cutting ties so another "Hunt" doesn't happen. Cutting a gifted player , even for good reason so that another less "moral" team can scoop him up for next to nothing after his suspension doesn't help the Chiefs or teach the player a lesson other than "there's a team out there that will put you on the field if you are good enough".

The logic is fairly simple. If you believe that based on everything that has come out that he broke his kid’s arm, then you have to decide whether you want that type of person in your team. I, personally and per the thread topic question, do not.

The logic isn’t terribly difficult to decipher.

You, on the other hand, may think it’s okay to keep him. That’s your prerogative. At least with my suggestion we get something for him as opposed to outright cutting him.

As of 7:42 a.m. 4/26/19, I can say that at least 97 people in this world disgust me.

Hell no, releasing would be reeruned

QQ

Christ man. You need to take a step back and re-examine life if you are on board with keeping a guy who broke his 3 year olds arm.

F***ing 3 years old!!!!

I always enjoy people who get self righteous on message boards.

He needs serious help, suspend him for a year and make sure he goes to counseling and contributes to the community. Something is wrong with this dude.

This is turning into a Greg hardy situation. It is nothing like kareem hunt. Nobody touched Ray Rice or hardy. It took a gigantic pr apology tour for the eagles to get eagles fans to pick up Michael Vick. This idea that teams are salivating over the thought of picking up tyreek is just nuts. Even Jerry jones backed down to pressure after trying to make excuses for why he signed Greg hardy.

He denied it.... but you keep listening to the own who has admitted to lying....

Just wait. In time teams will be lining up.

Lol said same thing about Hunt “no one will pick him up”

This is a business and Tyreek Hill is a commodity

Yes. Then get all bent if you dont agree with their take. :rolleyes:

Damn straight. Even more so of a game-changing one than Hunt.

I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND ANAKIN

How can you justify having this kind of guy in the locker room now? The Chiefs can't count on him, his teammates can't count on him, and most of them will avoid him like a week old turd. There's a lot of difference between being a "playa" and a child beater.

It won't be anytime soon. This is way different. Even stubborn af Jerry jones didn't want to deal with the pr nightmare around hardy. The rep around hill is even worse.

Because I don’t look at NFL as role models or to be my moral compass.

Maybe we'll get Tyreek Hill in UFC soon.

I don't think any single person is saying that Tyreek Hill isn't a bad dude. He is. We knew that. But by releasing him right now the only ones who are punished for what happened to that kid are the Chiefs. Tyreek Hill will serve a 4-8 game suspension and end up on someone else's team by November. Everyone will forget the media will praise him while he helps Tom Brady win another Super Bowl.

I'm be fine with the NFL banning him. But if Tyreek Hill is going to play in the NFL again one day, and I don't really know that he should, i'd rather it be for the Kansas City Chiefs than Cleveland or New England.

Everyone knew hunt would be back. Nobody in their right mind said he was done. You know damn well this is entirely different. The Chiefs have been in big time apologetics since drafting him already now.

Hardy didn’t preform....


-Adrian Peterson
-Pac-Man Jones
-Joe Mixon
-Kareem Hunt

What part are you guys missing that Tyreek Hill will be on another team next season playing if we release him

Tyreek Hill and Antonio Brown, I don’t like the sound of that do you?

Actually on a football field he was always clutch and counted on...just cause you suck in life doesn't mean that for the game.

Where are people getting 4-8 games from? Adrian Peterson got 1 year from his child abuse. Depending on the charges he could be punished even more severely for attempting to conspire with Crystal to cover it up. Also getting nailed as a repeat offender in the eyes if the NFL. This dude could be looking at years of suspension.

Is Hill still getting a paycheck while he's suspended by the Chiefs? Next, will he receive a paycheck while suspended by the NFL? I honestly don't know. If he's not getting paid I would not release him until he's off of suspension. No use letting another team sign him and use him against us. The NFL does have a record of letting domestic abusers and even suspected murderers return to action after all. When/if his suspension ends I would see if anybody would trade for him. If not I would cut his ass. If we are paying him while he's suspended I would cut his ass. No way would he ever play another down for my team if I was in charge(obviously I'm not).

i posted in the cross the line thread about getting disciplined but from what i heard in that audio it seemed like it went way past that and i feel disgusted i ever stood up for this guy.

I have no doubt someone will sign him. I just don't see how you release Hunt and not Tyreek. It sucks, he is damn exciting to have on the field, but they did the right thing with Hunt, they need to follow through with Hill as well.

I'd hold his rights for that entire time....

CBA 6 games max for first offense IN LEAGUE

Ding ding ding

Even serial criminal pac man doesn't have the optics of this. Ray Rice, Greg hardy, Michael Vick for a while... There are plenty of good players who stayed banned for a very long time. Ask yourself if any of those teams had to have an apology tour nearly as close to what the Chiefs had to put on... And that was for violation #1 where the Chiefs had many sold that tyreek was reformed. He doesn't have that going anymore.

What the f*** is self righteous about saying you shouldn't break the arm of a 3 year old? Holy hell - I thought that was a universal thought.

You push down or get in a fight with an adult - even a women...not good, but they can at least defend themselves, call the cops and file charges, make a decision to leave the situation, etc... This is a 3 YEAR OLD. What's your next response? "Some 3 years olds are real a**holes, man"

More than a few people seem to be A-OK with a child abuser on this team. smh.

Who ****ing cares.....

Think people going to talk about Hunt kicking a woman in Cleveland if he balls out?

You understand that’s not a fact he did anything right?

This is the last year of his contract, and just spitballing here, but we probably aren't going to sign him to an extension.

https://overthecap.com/player/tyreek-hill/4878/

KC could certainly just keep him suspended, but could likely use the cap savings to replace him.

No but if you hold his rights while suspended he accumulates no service time.

They'd save like 5 dollars.

Naw, you're a fan. You gave the guy a 2nd chance and the benefit of the doubt. When u got more information, you changed your mind. Nothing wrong with that.

Patriots, raiders, colts, all sitting there licking their lips

Patriots with Edleman showing him some shit would be a good spot.

As they should be. We’re quickly dismantling a supper bowl offense. These other franchises need to stand by, what fat Andy and the hunts implode. Pick up the pieces and improve their team.


Chiefs aren’t s threat anymore.

I hope so, ive actually met Hill at updown arcade bar and he was with this girl and they both seemed really nice and normal. Hill wasnt even drinking

The operative word here is "was". Yes, he was clutch and gave it 100% on the field. My point was he can't be counted on now that there's a certain suspension (length unknown) and the probability he'll be in trouble again.

People are barely talking about kareem even now. We need to stop making the kareem vs tyreek comparisons. A few years into a largely clean nfl career tyreek was still one of the most controversial players in the NFL. Now this. It's not even in the same league. It matters a lot because any team that gets him not only has to deal with the pr nightmare, they also end up with a player who is one tiny mistake (even if falsely accused) away from probably being permabanned.

So let me get this straight she record this for blackmail, and DIDNT take pictures to prove abuse?

Ruben foster says hello

There is no good reason for not ****ing releasing his ass. I'm kinda irked that they haven't released his ass already. Maybe they are doing their due-diligence to verify the authenticity of the tape? IDK maybe the NFL is telling them to hold off and let them make the decision? **** man he needs to go! Not just out of KC but out of the ****ing NFL

So, we're okay with domestic violence as long as it's on the defensive side of the ball? I mean, weren't people just elated to get Frank Clark?

Well?

Others may have said this if possible, but suspend him and retain his rights. If the league lets him play again, then trade him. But don't just let him walk without getting any compensation like what happened with Hunt.

No. Suspend him. Retain rights.

Every other team will add him if given the chance.

Frank Clark isn't a repeat offender and one of his victims wasn't a 3-year old boy who now thinks that being forced to hold out his arms while he's punched in the chest is "normal".

Again no proof this happened minus a baby mama

See this is where I am at. The Police should have had this tape. There is a reason that they believe that the tape is not enough to pursue this matter. It seems clear that the mother was making this tape for a reason and it was a set up Tyreke for whatever reason she had. Not saying he is innocent, would have like he denied it but what I listened to did not seem like the whole conversation. Maybe he did deny it and just gave up later in the conversation. But he needs to part ways with her.

I would let the NFL take the lead and do what they want to do. For a franchise willing to cut ways with Hunt so quickly, you have to wonder why do we bring in a lot of guys with checkered pasts. But anyway the problem is that your dealing with young 20 somethings, mistakes are going to be made, teams are going to give them 2nd chances... especially where there is not enough for the cops to pursue.

ROFL

Other than the recording that not only implicated him in this one incident but suggest there were MULTIPLE others.

Are you really that naive, or are you willfully this ignorant?

Iron Knee

Of course he is...

Given the Hunt debacle.... Morally, football wise...I agree with this. Let the NFL levy their punishment. BUT man up for the child and the Chiefs. I assume there are actual grounds per his contract to fire/cut him... then another team has the fastest human in the NFL. And the child is no better off. Sit him down and explain...we could fire you. INSTEAD, you WILL go to constant therapy, you WILL have supervision, this is how you stay in the NFL. No debate.

Stand up for the child. Get Tyreek help. And don't dismiss a great player. That is a win.

Alter boys aren't going to take you to a SB. But taking care of your employees and their families just might. Hell, we all have our demons.... If I were in Reeks situation, I would gladly accept help. And a paycheck.

All I can say is that IF it’s true, he should never play in the NFL again... not just for the Chiefs, but for anyone

But if the league intends to let him play again at some point, it would make me sick to see him somewhere in the AFCW... try to imagine him and AB together in Vegas

I still vote no.

Suspend him for the entire season for all I care.
Put him in counseling/parenting classes.

BUT YOU HOLD ON TO THOSE RIGHTS, do not let another team like the Patriots come in and beat us with him.

If you are moving on from him, trade him.

Hes in his last year if his deal. Waiving him he would have to go through waivers making it harder for the Pat's to get him.

This is where I'm at too.

Suspend his ass. Tell the NFL to act, but you can't walk away just to see another team sign this player because they are just too talented. It punishes the team more than it punishes the player.

My first thought was "Cutting him won't un-break the kid's arm", but after giving it more thought, I hope he's banned from the NFL for life. Not because I'm outraged, but because I don't want to see him with a team other than KC.

Wait, so a woman who LIED to the government.... Then decided to try to entrap Tyreek to saying things and he denied the broken arm.

Yeah ok

When told his son was scared of him, his reply was that she should be scared too... that’s a great big cloud of dark smoke, whether she was trying to entrap him or not

Look he might be a POS, but there could be context behind a statement like that.

This is were the league and it’s owners need to hardline and set a zero tolerance policy going forward. It will never change with acceptance and rehabilitation.

We now know that only Tyreek and his fiancé were there when the kid broke his arm.

We also know from the recording that it happened on Tyreek’s watch. He would’ve said otherwise if that wasn’t true.

If it’s a spiral fracture, Tyreek 100% did it. That’s the only explanation. You don’t get a spiral fracture from falling. Spiral fractures are almost always abuse, because of how they happen. There’s no way that happened from him “falling” like she mentions as his excuse.

The type of injury is the missing piece to this puzzle for me. If it’s a spiral fracture and that is confirmed, Tyreek did it and he needs to be kicked out of the league.

Wont happen

It's so hardline that Jeffery Simmons is a first round pick with a torn ACL...

I'm fine with suspending him till his contract runs out. I don't want another Hunt situation where another team picks him up, we get nothing and nothing happens to that team.