So, is he the best or does he suck?

is that not RK-as in rank at the left? Sure looks like it says "player rank".

edit-it's a count of rows. Whatever, it's stupid. Ranking players on two games worth of statistics is dumb.

He's the best but he hasn't been playing like the best in the two games they've played.


I'm seriously confused why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

Do we need to shut down the forum until the end of the season in order to grade players? Can we not discuss games played anymore?

He's playing very well, actually, he just hasn't got the stats that show that. If you actually watch him, down after down, you'll see that.

The stats will come, because he's too good for them not to. I don't know why that's so hard for you to grasp.

So you see now why your Khalil Mack comparison wasn't the best comparison to make though right? He's been getting doubled and everything and yet still has 14 more pressures than him and more impact plays than him. I'm not even asking Clark to be Khalil...but he's played 2 backup tackles and a team with a backup QB. He should have dominated at least one of those games. He should have sniffed Minshew and Clark at least a few times.

And because you're hung up on this...HE DOESN'T SUCK! TWO GAMES ARE NOT A REFLECTION OF HOW THE WHOLE SEASON IS GOING TO GO! But he hasn't been worth his pay in the two games he's played.

How do you know he's the best if he hasn't been playing like it? Honest question.

Frank Clark isn't the first player to get double teamed. Why are expectations so low for him. He should have the highest expectations on this whole team. He needs to show up on both the stat sheet and show up in areas that aren't on the stat sheet.

Because of his history. He has played well enough in the past that we should all expect more than he's done the last two games. Which is why those games are really disappointing.

I guess the word of the day is expectations.

Jones is double-teamed all the time and he just smashes through "Freelances" and sacks the QB.

Teams have been getting the ball out really quick against us (that’s what Carr and Minshew do apparently).

Clark needs to perform better.

Is what it is.

Everything is what it is.

So far, he sucks.

Sorry.

Here, so i don't hurt any feelers....he's not playing up to the standards his compensation dictates.

He played against a back up LT vs Jville and did nothing but get gifted an INT off a deflection, and he did jack shit vs Oakland.

but hey, our run D looks better. But he's not paid $100M to just be a good run defender.

I don’t judge him on that dirt shit field slows all DL down

Perhaps we should also look at Clark's history as well.

Yet Chris Jones....

Yeah Frank took the double team to allow him to be one on one

Ravens have a good o-line. Especially on the outside. Chiefs are going to have their hands full chasing Jackson around. (Yes, he's fast.) Hope Spags has a good plan for outside contain on Sunday.

We got on them last year by sending tons of heat. They are improved offensively but I still think the same scheme could work against them, Stanley is good but I think Brown could be had.

Hope you're right. Last year's game:

L. Jackson

C/ATT - 13/24
YDS - 147
TD - 2
INT - 0
Sacks - 2 (20yds)
QBR - 66.4

RUSH - 14 Carries for 67 yds, Long: 21

If I remember correctly it took us until the 4th Q to finally be aggressive with the pressure, but we started bringing 5-6 on a lot of plays in the 4th Q and OT and he started struggling and it led to the sack fumble that won the game.

They are improved though so looking at that might be the wrong move. Will be a good test to see if we’re really improved on defense this year or not.

I would much rather have Frank Clark than Dee Ford right now. Ford might have a couple of sacks as they would double Jones first, but they would also have gashed our right side C/D gap to frustrating levels.

Not seeing this as a problem really. Clark has compiled, not averaged, at least 10 sacks in the last three seasons. He'll get his sacks, and he'll get his average 'splash' plays by season's end. As others have said, sacks/splash plays come in bunches.

Derrick Thomas in the 1990 season had four games without a sack, and one game with less than one sack (0.5). That was the same season in which he set the NFL record for sacks in a game, on Nov. 11 1990, with seven.

Btw, the game before he only had one, and the two games after he didn't record a sack in either.

Just saw practice photos from today—could tell that Clark is wearing an elbow brace again under his sleeves on the left arm.

I bet he never even had his UCLs repaired. Idk. Weird. Don’t like it.

But he wasn’t on the injury report.

Your memory is better than mine. My main memory about the end of the game is RGIII coming in. That and thinking that one high pass was going to be called interference. Not because it necessarily was, but because Chiefs in playoffs. :)

Blitz all day and jam the crud out of his recievers. He'll come back down to earth.

Is reading comprehension at an all time low? At no time have I said Clark sucks. But his two games this season have. I'm only talking about the two games we've seen. I'm not saying he sucks. I'm not saying he's going to be bad this season. But the past two games haven't been good. Same way I said Aaron Donald's 2 games haven't been good given his expectations.

I don't know how many more times or ways I can say that.

LMAO

Warrick is reeeeeally butthurt over this topic. He does NOT like people criticizing Frank Clark, let me tell you!

Hell yeah.

It's not even close.

Ford has tendonitis in his knee, I think.

Speak of the Deevil.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/n...-ford/page124/

I'd rather have Andy ****ing Studebaker than Dee Ford

Hey, no crapping on Studebaker. He's a cousin of a good friend of mine and he sent me a signed T-shirt unsolicited when she told him I was a Chiefs fan.

Never mind, you weren't crapping on Andy. My bad.

After all of the retreads we've received from them I hope they get screwed over in this thing.

Or maybe...he likes it 'cause it's a ****ing club to beat people with.


I'm kidding, of course.

LMAO

Im not worried about stats. I just wish he would try a little bit harder. and more often.

Here's what I want y'all to do:

Watch him, every defensive down.

The result will be that you'll quit ****ing worrying. Whatever problems we have on that side of the ball...ain't Frank Clark.

any of ya'll see the the gear he was wearing when he touched down in KC? it was a shirt that was like a 10-in-1 rock n roll concert shirt. the shirt had van halen and def leppard and judas priest and more. Clark is heavy metal.

12% of his snaps were him dropping into coverage. take that for what it's worth. :D

Yeah, but his top YouTube jams are.....

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Adding Chubb and Von to the Clark club. They also have zero sacks and are trash.

Trash

SNR was right the first time.

Hes even worse in person.

This dude ****ing sucks. Tanoh looks better.

And to think, half of this board neg repped me when I said he wasn’t any better than ford lol

He really does ****ing suck.

Could have had Clowney

You guys suck holy shit

Oh but hes always double teamed!!! Every single play!!! Except that drive. He got owned by that OT. What a god damn waste of draft capital and a contract.

Trade FC for Ramsey and pay Jones PLEASE

Must just be hot or something...

I mean if you wanted your edge getting rag dolled, washed or falling down on every play he is worth every penny.

Alright, I’m on board now.

He’s doing nothing out there.

HOW CAN YOU JUDGE HIS PERFORMANCE THAT HALF?! THERE ARE 32 HALVES IN A SEASON! YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON TO MAKE A JUDGMENT ON HOW HE'S PERFORMED SO FAR!

He has the same stats as Khalil Mack today. What more do you want?

Exactly

Im gonna be patient with him.

LMAO

Not sure about Frank Clark (not individually paying attention to him), but Spags defense has been brilliant in this game.

They’re conceding the run to the Ravens and forcing them to try and beat them in the passing game. As good as the Ravens are at running the ball, he knows by just running they won’t be able to keep up with Chiefs offense (as we are already seeing).

They’re gonna HAVE to start passing in the 2nd half to catch up and that plays right into Spag’s gameplan. There will be a pick or 2 in the second half.

Again, absolute BRILLIANT ****ing gameplan by Spags! They’ve neutralized the Ravens strength.

Sutton would never do something like this.

Thank God he’s gone!

He’s not doing anything to write home about but it’s his 3rd game with us. Give it some more time. He will be fine! The defense is doing a hell of a job today so when he gets going we are going to be scary!

Meh the Ravens just stupidly abandoned the run when they've been slashing us all game. That 4th and 2 call was so stupid and its what broke the game apart.

I say all that and then the rain ****s us with a bad snap.

Obviously, if the game stays close, this strategy by Spags will work less to our advantage.

Frank Clark just defended like a pussy on Ingram. This guy has been a mistake

Frank Clark makes me miss Eric Hicks.

Give Ogbah, Clark's money.

In what way is Clark better than Dee Ford so far?

There you go dipshits

He did something!!! He made a play!!!!

Finally has more sacks than Jalen Ramsey!

ROFL karma

He got a sack and he rules.

It's still a shitty game by him that one play withstanding

And he was very good last week despite not getting a sack.

Can play this game both ways

"Very good"

ROFL

How low are you standards for this 100 million dollar man?

You’re right. He should have 3 sacks every game huh?

Hopefully this sack gets him going, still would like to see more energy from him.

No. He should have an impact every game. That's literally why he makes more than everybody on the team. If his impact is being double teamed then that's a waste of 100 million.

I don't even want to hear about run defense because we're still ****ing terrible at run D. We were allowing 6 yards per carry before this game, and I don't even want to know what that number will be after the game.

Chiefs 3-0! WOOT!

I thought he played better than the Honey Badger today.

INT and a sack in 2/3 games. Not an impact :LOL: