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RunKC 01-20-2020 12:25 AM

Chiefs get to practice at the Dolphins facility right? I know we get to choose our jerseys.

I’m thinking red on red. Not nervous about wearing home jerseys due to recent history. Eagles broke their curse wearing their home jerseys.

RetiredSeniorChief 01-20-2020 12:25 AM

We have Mahomes, they have Garoppolo. Stop the run, don't turn it over and it's a lock we win by at least 10.

RunKC 01-20-2020 12:29 AM

They also need to have the end zones in both teams old school style they’ve done this postseason.

Would be so badass

carcosa 01-20-2020 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 14739148)
We have Mahomes, they have Garoppolo. Stop the run, don't turn it over and it's a lock we win by at least 10.

YIP

MOARGore 01-20-2020 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14739141)
We just beat the 2005 Chiefs.

We're about to beat the 97 Chiefs.

Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to.



LOL our passing game is a liiiiiittle bit better than Grbac/Gannon.

We're more like the '97 Broncos

milkshock 01-20-2020 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AssEaterChief (Post 14738757)
List of "game managers" who have won Super Bowls since 2000.....

Trent Dilfer 2001
Tom Brady (2002,2004,2005) before he was the Tom Brady HOF caliber QB
Brad Johnson 2003
Big Ben 2006 before they let him throw more than 20 times a game
Eli Manning 2008 and 2012
Joe Flacco 2013
Peyton Manning 2016 broke dick could barely throw the ball at this point in his career
Nick Foles 2018


11 times in the last 20 years "game managers" have won a SB....

You could probably even add Brady last year because he was trash in the playoffs and relied on his D and run game

I think you guys don't really realize how much game managers actually win in the NFL at a high level

Winning a Superbowl has a lot more to do with chemistry, confidence and momentum than who your QB is in an average NFL season



Laughable post

Brady Ben and both Mannings as game managers lmao

New World Order 01-20-2020 12:56 AM

This stretch running game/PA junk only works for a period of time.

It worked for the Titans for 1.5 quarters then that was it.

It's not beating an explosive offense like ours.

SF had trouble with Seattle. We're Seattle on steroids.

rabblerouser 01-20-2020 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 14739148)
We have Mahomes, they have Garoppolo. Stop the run, don't turn it over and it's a lock we win by at least 10.

It's basically the same exact game we just played, except SF has the ability to run on the edge that the Tits didn't have with Henry.

Hammock Parties 01-20-2020 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739170)
LOL our passing game is a liiiiiittle bit better than Grbac/Gannon.

We're more like the '97 Broncos

That is a ****ing joke. You just won a game with 8 passes.

MOARGore 01-20-2020 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14739201)
That is a ****ing joke. You just won a game with 8 passes.


Right, but the season didn't start today.

For the season, we were 13th in passing (4th overall and 2nd in scoring).

Jimmy's had multiple 300+ 4 TD games.

The last two games were an anomaly because they couldn't stop the run at all.

Hammock Parties 01-20-2020 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739212)
Right, but the season didn't start today.

For the season, we were 13th in passing (4th overall and 2nd in scoring).

Jimmy's had multiple 300+ 4 TD games.

The last two games were an anomaly because they couldn't stop the run at all.

your offense is nowhere close to the 97 Broncos, which were historically elite

MOARGore 01-20-2020 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14739214)
your offense is nowhere close to the 97 Broncos, which were historically elite


Actually the numbers are eerily similar.

RetiredSeniorChief 01-20-2020 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739212)
Right, but the season didn't start today.

For the season, we were 13th in passing (4th overall and 2nd in scoring).

Jimmy's had multiple 300+ 4 TD games.

The last two games were an anomaly because they couldn't stop the run at all.

He had 3, and 2 of them came against the Cardinals.

Chargem 01-20-2020 01:47 AM

Who gets to wear red?

notorious 01-20-2020 01:48 AM

Mother **** each and every 49er, Alex Smith Cock-Sucking Mother ****ing Piece of dildo-impacted shit.

You may think you have something, but in reality you have a loser head coach that lost a 28-3 lead in a ****ing Super Bowl.

Your coach WILL choke this game away.

MOARGore 01-20-2020 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 14739230)
He had 3, and 2 of them came against the Cardinals.


My point was throwing the ball 8 times isn’t the norm.

I think there’s this narrative that Jimmy is some Dilfer-esque game manager when he’s not.

We’ve won both shootouts and slugfests.

MOARGore 01-20-2020 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 14739244)
Who gets to wear red?


Chiefs are the home team.

We’re trying to get the NFL to allow us to wear our all-white throwback uniforms.

Hammock Parties 01-20-2020 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739222)
Actually the numbers are eerily similar.

and here you go, not even counting for the difference in the passing game in that era and this one

throwing 13 picks in 2019 on less than 30 passes a game is not good - garoppolo's interception percentage this year was bottom 10

so **** off comparing your passing game to john elway, rod smith, ed mcaffery and shannon sharpe

it's not even in the same galaxy

you have one threat in the passing game and that is going to be cake for steve spagnuolo to take away

you better pray the Chiefs revamped run defense doesn't ball out like it did against Derrick Henry, or it's going to be a very long day for your mediocre QB

Hammock Parties 01-20-2020 01:59 AM

**** THE 49ERS

**** THEIR SHANAHAN

**** THEIR PATRIOT CASTOFF QB

AND **** THEM FOR GIVING US ALEX!!!!

MOARGore 01-20-2020 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14739250)
and here you go, not even counting for the difference in the passing game in that era and this one

throwing 13 picks in 2019 on less than 30 passes a game is not good - garoppolo's interception percentage this year was bottom 10

so **** off comparing your passing game to john elway, rod smith, ed mcaffery and shannon sharpe

it's not even in the same galaxy

you have one threat in the passing game and that is going to be cake for steve spagnuolo to take away

you better pray the Chiefs revamped run defense doesn't ball out like it did against Derrick Henry, or it's going to be a very long day for your mediocre QB




LOL all right, man.

It’s all good.

I’m not gonna convince you Jimmy G is a legit QB.

Doesn’t really matter at this point. We’ll see how it plays in 2 weeks.

T-post Tom 01-20-2020 02:39 AM

Anticipating this tomorrow: Skip Bayless says, "Raheem Mostert ran for 220 yards and 4 TDs vs a better GB defense. The Chiefs can't stop any good RB. The Chiefs are doomed." LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

T-post Tom 01-20-2020 02:41 AM

**** SF and their awful restaurants. :p

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G6Vx7JSR9-4/maxresdefault.jpg

CupidStunt 01-20-2020 02:46 AM

I will say the same thing I said before the Titans game. Although I will note first that the 9ers are a MUCH better team than the Tits. But:

If the Chiefs show up and play their A game, they will win. There is simply not a team in the world that can beat the Chiefs -- because of Mahomes -- if they, and he, are at their peak.

The great thing about sports is that you just never know what version of a team will show up.

But Andy Reid with 2 weeks to prepare? Patrick Mahomes vs Jimmy Pollo? I like our chances.

BrummieBrown 01-20-2020 02:49 AM

good morning guys

firstly well done on making the superbowl.

I am heading over from the UK to watch it, me and my girlfriend can't wait ! so it would be good to know if there will be a tailgate or where you guys are watching it

Once i am aloud to start a thread i will

ATB
Neale

SPchief 01-20-2020 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739254)
LOL all right, man.

It’s all good.

I’m not gonna convince you Jimmy G is a legit QB.

.

Duh

Naptown Chief 01-20-2020 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739254)
I’m not gonna convince you Jimmy G is a legit QB

ROFL

Jimmy G and 'legit' should never be used in the same sentence. He'll be a backup, or out of the league entirely, within a couple of years.

Naptown Chief 01-20-2020 03:20 AM

**** SF, their poopy needle filled streets, and **** Dee Ford.

FDF has an entirely new meaning

milkshock 01-20-2020 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naptown Chief (Post 14739283)
ROFL



Jimmy G and 'legit' should never be used in the same sentence. He'll be a backup, or out of the league entirely, within a couple of years.



8 passes in a title game

Humiliating

ThyKingdomCome15 01-20-2020 04:55 AM

Niners are tough but overrated. They had a soft schedule in the regular season. And the team they beat in the NFCC nearly lost to good Ole' Midnight Hour. Their DL is great but their secondary cant come close to matching our speed. I'm very confident.


Two words I have to describe the Niners: Uncontested. Unexplosive.

Coochie liquor 01-20-2020 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikulik (Post 14738636)
New England offense was cra p and you already said Houston was crappy Green Bay defense sucks. So you played Tenessee, Baltimore and Minnesota. San Fran played Seattle twice and Baltimore in Baltimore so you can't say their schedule was light

Damn son, you’re ****ing salty after taking that L yesterday. Lmao! Acting like a big bitch now. Take your L and go home like a man.

chiefzilla1501 01-20-2020 05:12 AM

There's one thing that makes me a little nervous. Robert Saleh.

Does he run the same defense as Gus Bradley? Although we're awesome against zone, Bradley's defense seems to be one of the few that's kind of stumped Mahomes. Good news is Andy has 2 weeks to prepare for that.

seamonster 01-20-2020 05:18 AM

49ers have an elite offensive line that don't doesn't hold every other play like Nashville. And that zone running scheme is tricky. But none of that matters if the chiefs get a two score lead. And if Gerapallo starts throwing pickles (like he normally does) then it's lights out. Should be a close game.

MMXcalibur 01-20-2020 05:25 AM

The most indirect thing I love about a Chiefs/49ers Super Bowl is that Raider fans are pissed off and will have nothing but 2 weeks of misery leading up to kickoff.

Mecca 01-20-2020 05:36 AM

There's a reason that even the analysts say things like this about Garapollo, "He'll throw you 3 are you gonna catch em?"

baitism 01-20-2020 05:37 AM

SF is full of Niner bundle of stickss, just like this thread.

JD10367 01-20-2020 06:14 AM

Niners have a great D but have never faced an O like KC’s. Mahomes is nearly indefensible. Too many weapons and if you cover them all he’ll run for yards.

Garoppolo is better than you all give him credit for, but the Chiefs D is also better than it was. Much like Tennessee, they’ll stop the run and force Jimmy G to win it and, lie Tannehill, he can’t match TDs with Mahomes.

I see a very similar game to this Titans one. Niners will be close at the half but lose by 17.

Ming the Merciless 01-20-2020 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14737974)
He's an ass eater. Sounds like stuff they do in SF. You know - shit on the street, eat ass, have sex with other men...the San Francisco treat.


sounds like you have "vacationed" there quite a bit and are an expert on the goings on there?

Ming the Merciless 01-20-2020 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739254)
Doesn’t really matter at this point. We’ll see how it plays in 2 weeks.


sounds like one of the Alexians made an alt for the game


wonder which one it is

Ming the Merciless 01-20-2020 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14739197)
It's basically the same exact game we just played, except SF has the ability to run on the edge that the Tits didn't have with Henry.


I'm less scared of Mostert than Henry , personally.



Let him run to the edge...

TwistedChief 01-20-2020 07:06 AM

King Mostert and Prince Jimmy are standing in our way? Oh no, whatever will we do?

If we play our game, we win. We should be able to key in on the run as we did against the Titans. Garoppolo is a decent QB but our secondary is solid.

Mahomes is the best player on the field and will will us to victory. 28-21.

duncan_idaho 01-20-2020 07:13 AM

Defensively, Mostert is a home run threat. So is Breida if he gets the rock much. Tevin Coleman is the least scary member of that backfield, IMO, and might not play.

Their offense is dangerous because Shanahan is a great playcaller and they execute well, with good talent and balance. Spagnuolo is going to have to have a great plan.

Offensively, looking at their secondary, that’s a tough matchup for them outside Richard Sherman if the front 4 can’t generate pressure. As I understand it, Sherman doesn’t “travel” with receivers (still) so KC can scheme away from him if necessary.

Their LBs are smaller/faster types who are solid in coverage, but there’s not a Derwin James in that back 7 to help really neutralize Kelce.

It’s going to come down To how much the Chiefs fan protect Mahomes. If they give him time - and I think they will - he will do his thing.

duncan_idaho 01-20-2020 07:24 AM

If I were the 49ers, I think I have to consider playing Bitchmade on early downs to try and get my best pass rush out there all the time.

Chiefs would likely adjust to a lot of runs to Bitchmade’s side, even if not in 21 personnel, since WRs can routinely block Bitchmade out of it in the run game and you can run right at him.

But that might play to San Francisco’s advantage if it means fewer balls in the air.

rabblerouser 01-20-2020 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 14739230)
He had 3, and 2 of them came against the Cardinals.

ROFL

rabblerouser 01-20-2020 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14739405)
King Mostert and Prince Jimmy are standing in our way?.

OH NOES!!

Chris Meck 01-20-2020 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739170)
LOL our passing game is a liiiiiittle bit better than Grbac/Gannon.

We're more like the '97 Broncos

aw kid.

Naw.

Hell naw.

The Niners are a good, solid football team. They run the ball well, they play good, solid defense.

Kittle is great and Kelce's only true peer, in my opinion, at this point in time.

Jimmy G? He ain't Elway. Not even old, almost about done Elway.

Naw.

Don't give me stats, because the genius of Elway was never statistically evident anyway.

It was in his ability to pick his team up and carry them kicking and screaming to victory and rip the heart out of the opposing team and their fanbase. And he did it consistently.

so no, Jimmy G does is not in any way, shape, or form John Elway.

And you've got no Terrell Davis.

Jimmy G is a less careful with the ball Alex Smith.

That's cool. That can even be pretty good. It can even win a Superbowl IF everything goes just right.

You're about to run into Patrick Mahomes. Everything ain't going to go just right.

And Derrick Henry could only run for 69 yards against this defense. Throw the season stats out; they've been a totally different squad the second half of the year. New defense, you know. Took a little while to gel. And a lot of injuries to fight through. They're relatively healthy now.

Naw, kid. You're not going to win this one.

duncan_idaho 01-20-2020 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14739467)
aw kid.



Naw.



Hell naw.



The Niners are a good, solid football team. They run the ball well, they play good, solid defense.



Kittle is great and Kelce's only true peer, in my opinion, at this point in time.



Jimmy G? He ain't Elway. Not even old, almost about done Elway.



Naw.



Don't give me stats, because the genius of Elway was never statistically evident anyway.



It was in his ability to pick his team up and carry them kicking and screaming to victory and rip the heart out of the opposing team and their fanbase. And he did it consistently.



so no, Jimmy G does is not in any way, shape, or form John Elway.



And you've got no Terrell Davis.



Jimmy G is a less careful with the ball Alex Smith.



That's cool. That can even be pretty good. It can even win a Superbowl IF everything goes just right.



You're about to run into Patrick Mahomes. Everything ain't going to go just right.



And Derrick Henry could only run for 69 yards against this defense. Throw the season stats out; they've been a totally different squad the second half of the year. New defense, you know. Took a little while to gel. And a lot of injuries to fight through. They're relatively healthy now.



Naw, kid. You're not going to win this one.


He’s a less careful, less mobile version of KC-era Alex Smith. Who, due to scheme and talent around him, played as a tier 3 (12-20 range) NFL QB.

If KC protects the ball and protects Mahomes, I like the matchup a great deal.

Mecca 01-20-2020 08:23 AM

They also don't move Sherman so you can literally scheme around him, I also don't know if they have the secondary speed to do much to the receivers here.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-20-2020 08:24 AM

As much as we throw the ball, I’d like to think it wears down a set of pass rushers much quicker than they’re used to. Hope that’s the case here.

At the same time, it represents more opportunities to create sacks.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-20-2020 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14739474)
They also don't move Sherman so you can literally scheme around him, I also don't know if they have the secondary speed to do much to the receivers here.

I don’t think Sherman can hang with Hill or Watkins, especially when Mahomes is the one throwing it.

duncan_idaho 01-20-2020 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14739474)
They also don't move Sherman so you can literally scheme around him, I also don't know if they have the secondary speed to do much to the receivers here.


Their pass D numbers look good despite having JAGs other than Sherman - who has been excellent. It’s pass rush generated, I believe.

I’ve seen some chatter suggesting Bitchmade will play on early downs to boost their pass rush. Hope that happens. I need to see WRs. Like Robinson blasting him out of the run game.

As long as KC can give Mahomes time, he’ll move the ball. As always.

FringeNC 01-20-2020 08:35 AM

Besides being healthy on offense, we'll be playing in warm weather. For as good as we've looked lately, I think we'll execute even better in the 70 degree air.

TexasChief 01-20-2020 08:41 AM

Can anyone confirm the nfl is dropping the “100” shield and replacing it with the normal nfl shield for the super bowl? We’ve worn the 100 shield throughout the playoffs and it has been dropped on all of the usual jersey sale sites.

Just wanted to make sure before I did a big group buy for friends and fam for the game.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-20-2020 08:43 AM

The Niners front flows extremely hard with run action — I look for Andy to have some boot shot plays ready to go. Intermediate routes sprinkled in.

They are so aggressive on their DL that it could become a weakness for Andy to exploit.

O.city 01-20-2020 08:45 AM

That 9er DL is scary good. They could go all 07 Giants if you let them.

Block them up, let Pat be Pat and they'll be right there for a win.

Kman34 01-20-2020 08:48 AM

Run at Dee Ford when he’s in the game.. He will run away like a bitch..

Chris Meck 01-20-2020 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 14739522)
Run at Dee Ford when he’s in the game.. He will run away like a bitch..

well, we've seen you can block him with a WR.

I'd sweep right at him and put D-Rob on Ford.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-20-2020 08:53 AM

This is what Brett Veach said. I can actually see us extending Watkins tbh

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“You don’t make (major) moves to make the playoffs . . You make moves like that to put you over the top. Without Sammy’s performance today, who knows how this game would have turned out? You do it really for games like this, not so much the regular season.&#39;&#39; <a href="https://t.co/7vYVEu3N4y">https://t.co/7vYVEu3N4y</a></p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1219266190754942983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

duncan_idaho 01-20-2020 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14739533)
This is what Brett Veach said. I can actually see us extending Watkins tbh

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“You don’t make (major) moves to make the playoffs . . You make moves like that to put you over the top. Without Sammy’s performance today, who knows how this game would have turned out? You do it really for games like this, not so much the regular season.&#39;&#39; <a href="https://t.co/7vYVEu3N4y">https://t.co/7vYVEu3N4y</a></p>— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1219266190754942983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


If you can get him extended and make it work, I’m ok with it. He sold me yesterday on keeping him if possible. Draft a WR to replace Robinson.

It’s a $7 million dead cap hit to cut him. If they can get the hit down from $21 to 10 or something like that, I’m good with it.

RunKC 01-20-2020 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14739513)
The Niners front flows extremely hard with run action — I look for Andy to have some boot shot plays ready to go. Intermediate routes sprinkled in.

They are so aggressive on their DL that it could become a weakness for Andy to exploit.

We have the best screen game in the league. Andy Reid always has guys ready for aggressive pass rushes.

Bosa is the one to look out for. Shut him down and they are dead. Mitchell Schwartz is a big key to this game and I think he will perform.

Bosa is a rookie and Schwartz is a master technician. Bosa won’t be able to make his bones off of pure talent anymore.

St. Patty's Fire 01-20-2020 09:12 AM

The thing about the 9ers offense is that it’s so dependent on playcalling and scheme that Spags could put together a gameplan to slow to them down. This isn’t a team that’s out talenting people on that side of the ball, they’re just coached like a machine.

I think Spags can definitely come up with something to disrupt their rhythm. I don’t envision Mostert finishing the game with 230 yards rushing again.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-20-2020 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14739548)
We have the best screen game in the league. Andy Reid always has guys ready for aggressive pass rushes.

Bosa is the one to look out for. Shut him down and they are dead. Mitchell Schwartz is a big key to this game and I think he will perform.

Bosa is a rookie and Schwartz is a master technician. Bosa won’t be able to make his bones off of pure talent anymore.

This may sound goofy but I think it benefits us that Mitch and Fish have been playing against Joey for the past few years. Nick Bosa is basically a clone of Joey from what I can tell (except he might be just a smidge better). I feel like their styles are similar.

We normally manage Joey to some extent, so hopefully that happens here too. I’m sure he will make some plays, just hopefully no turnovers.

DRM08 01-20-2020 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14739533)
This is what Brett Veach said. I can actually see us extending Watkins tbh

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“You don’t make (major) moves to make the playoffs . . You make moves like that to put you over the top. Without Sammy’s performance today, who knows how this game would have turned out? You do it really for games like this, not so much the regular season.&#39;&#39; <a href="https://t.co/7vYVEu3N4y">https://t.co/7vYVEu3N4y</a></p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1219266190754942983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They’ll need him to do a pay cut. Not sure he is willing to do that. He did say one of his best decisions in life was going to KC. Maybe he wants to stay.

duncan_idaho 01-20-2020 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14739600)
They’ll need him to do a pay cut. Not sure he is willing to do that. He did say one of his best decisions in life was going to KC. Maybe he wants to stay.



I could see something where he gets a 2-3 year extension, with 2/3 of his base salary for 2020 converted to a signing bonus, and him getting a base salary of 10 million or so.

It would save them $5-6 million against the cap next year (and also avoid $7 million of dead money) while also guaranteeing him more.

No idea what Watkins would get on the open market, though. Might not be a good financial situation for him.

TribalElder 01-20-2020 09:37 AM

LETS KICK THE SHIT OUT OF THE 49ERS

BECOME WORLD CHAMPIONS

FringeNC 01-20-2020 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14739533)
This is what Brett Veach said. I can actually see us extending Watkins tbh

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“You don’t make (major) moves to make the playoffs . . You make moves like that to put you over the top. Without Sammy’s performance today, who knows how this game would have turned out? You do it really for games like this, not so much the regular season.&#39;&#39; <a href="https://t.co/7vYVEu3N4y">https://t.co/7vYVEu3N4y</a></p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1219266190754942983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I get it. His quote though in no way explains Watkins' up and down performance. I don't know if it's a health issue or an effort issue, it's hard to understand why he's not more consistently a factor in the passing game. With all the doubles Hill and Kelce get....

O.city 01-20-2020 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14739621)
I could see something where he gets a 2-3 year extension, with 2/3 of his base salary for 2020 converted to a signing bonus, and him getting a base salary of 10 million or so.

It would save them $5-6 million against the cap next year (and also avoid $7 million of dead money) while also guaranteeing him more.

No idea what Watkins would get on the open market, though. Might not be a good financial situation for him.

I think it makes sense for him to stay though when you factor in this years draft class at WR coming in and some other FA's hitting. He's made a shitload, he could still make really good money, stay here and win.

Seems it would benefit everyone.

SuperBowl4 01-20-2020 09:43 AM

WE'RE GONNA BEAT THE HELL OUT OF YOU - YOU - YOU - YOU,YOU,YOU!

pugsnotdrugs19 01-20-2020 09:45 AM

I’d love to keep Sammy but if it means losing Jones, I wouldn’t keep him obviously

smithandrew051 01-20-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14739645)
I’d love to keep Sammy but if it means losing Jones, I wouldn’t keep him obviously

I would love to keep Jones...but if he has a big time performance in a Super Bowl, his stock will never be higher. You could really rip off a bad team on a tag and trade.

If you land Mack-type compensation, you could really set the roster up for the next decade.

rabblerouser 01-20-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14739624)
LETS KICK THE SHIT OUT OF THE 49ERS

BECOME WORLD CHAMPIONS

YES

MOARGore 01-20-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14739467)
aw kid.

Naw.

Hell naw.

The Niners are a good, solid football team. They run the ball well, they play good, solid defense.

Kittle is great and Kelce's only true peer, in my opinion, at this point in time.

Jimmy G? He ain't Elway. Not even old, almost about done Elway.

Naw.

Don't give me stats, because the genius of Elway was never statistically evident anyway.

It was in his ability to pick his team up and carry them kicking and screaming to victory and rip the heart out of the opposing team and their fanbase. And he did it consistently.

so no, Jimmy G does is not in any way, shape, or form John Elway.

And you've got no Terrell Davis.

Jimmy G is a less careful with the ball Alex Smith.

That's cool. That can even be pretty good. It can even win a Superbowl IF everything goes just right.

You're about to run into Patrick Mahomes. Everything ain't going to go just right.

And Derrick Henry could only run for 69 yards against this defense. Throw the season stats out; they've been a totally different squad the second half of the year. New defense, you know. Took a little while to gel. And a lot of injuries to fight through. They're relatively healthy now.

Naw, kid. You're not going to win this one.



If I had to bet money, I’d pick the Chiefs because Mahomes is just ridiculous.

But Jimmy G is no Alex Smith.

As someone who suffered for almost a decade under Smith’s reign of terror, it’s not even close.

The team was garbage when we traded for Jimmy. We were 1-10 with a bad offense that couldn’t put up points. He comes in without even knowing the playbook and has our offense humming like stop 5 unit to close out the season.

We goes down in 2018, then we suck again.

He comes back and now we’re in the Super Bowl.

He’s a winner, and he plays clutch on 3rd down and in the 4th quarter, two things Smith always sucked at.

I think the Chiefs’ speed is probably too much to handle, but don’t expect some deer-in-headlights Alex Smith who’s throwing the ball in the dirt on 3rd down or overthrowing guys by 5 yards when they’re wide-ass open.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-20-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14739656)
I would love to keep Jones...but if he has a big time performance in a Super Bowl, his stock will never be higher. You could really rip off a bad team on a tag and trade.

If you land Mack-type compensation, you could really set the roster up for the next decade.

If Watkins produces, we may be able to get something good for him too :shrug:

Veach and Reid have earned my trust. They’ll have a plan, probably already have one.

I mentioned it in another thread the other day, the Chiefs can’t totally win or lose in the Jones situation. You’re either keeping an elite player or you’re gaining great draft capital and cap space, while also losing something too (Jones or space).

Deberg_1990 01-20-2020 09:52 AM

Can’t be spotting them 10-20 points like the last two weeks.

They are better than the Texans and Titans.

And no more special teams blunders. How did the Chiefs fall for that fake punt yesterday when everyone knew it was coming????

smithandrew051 01-20-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739662)
If I had to bet money, I’d pick the Chiefs because Mahomes is just ridiculous.

But Jimmy G is no Alex Smith.

As someone who suffered for almost a decade under Smith’s reign of terror, it’s not even close.

The team was garbage when we traded for Jimmy. We were 1-10 with a bad offense that couldn’t put up points. He comes in without even knowing the playbook and has our offense humming like stop 5 unit to close out the season.

We goes down in 2018, then we suck again.

He comes back and now we’re in the Super Bowl.

He’s a winner, and he plays clutch on 3rd down and in the 4th quarter, two things Smith always sucked at.

I think the Chiefs’ speed is probably too much to handle, but don’t expect some deer-in-headlights Alex Smith who’s throwing the ball in the dirt on 3rd down or overthrowing guys by 5 yards when they’re wide-ass open.

Not to defend Alex Smith too much, but didn’t he have like 5 different OCs his first 5 seasons? I would also argue that Jimmy G has a much better supporting cast in SF than Alex ever had.

Jerm 01-20-2020 09:53 AM

Jimmy Garoppolo is a dead man walking...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/khjY3xELOyo/hqdefault.jpg

MOARGore 01-20-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14739669)
Not to defend Alex Smith too much, but didn’t he have like 5 different OCs his first 5 seasons? I would also argue that Jimmy G has a much better supporting cast in SF than Alex ever had.


Smith got a raw deal, but he was never a confident player or thrower.

He just didn’t have “it.”

Part of the reason OCs kept getting fired was him.

If things had been more stable for him, he might’ve had a better career, but he just didn’t have the arm talent or mental makeup of a franchise QB, IMO.

Chiefs Moon 01-20-2020 09:59 AM

The rebuild should start this year. Tag and trade Jones. Move on from Sammy unless there's a dramatic contract revision. Veach should prepare to trade back a time or two. It's a new world with the Mahomes contract. Upgrade the O line. Draft a young CB, RB, ILB. There will be FA's who want to play with Mahomes-- sign a few who will take less for a shot at another Super Bowl run.

smithandrew051 01-20-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MOARGore (Post 14739675)
Smith got a raw deal, but he was never a confident player or thrower.

He just didn’t have “it.”

Part of the reason OCs kept getting fired was him.

If things had been more stable for him, he might’ve had a better career, but he just didn’t have the arm talent or mental makeup of a franchise QB, IMO.

He played for the Chiefs and his OCs kept getting Head Coaching jobs...

I agree that he isn’t an upper level franchise guy. He just isn’t that guy.

I also don’t think Jimmy G would be near as successful in the situation that Smith came into either though.

RunKC 01-20-2020 10:02 AM

Just watched the 49ers/Packers game. Holy shit did the Packers look sloppy. They did literally everything they could to **** up.

Roughing the passer, completely undisciplined gap maintenance on run defense, no creativity and just poor effort overall.

That could not have been an easier game for the Niners.

staylor26 01-20-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14739694)
Just watched the 49ers/Packers game. Holy shit did the Packers look sloppy. They did literally everything they could to **** up.

Roughing the passer, completely undisciplined gap maintenance on run defense, no creativity and just poor effort overall.

That could not have been an easier game for the Niners.

Like somebody said the 49ers have faced absolutely no adversity in these playoffs.

And they haven’t had to throw the ball in weeks.


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