They were there also for the MNF game against the Raiders earlier this year. One if those idiots called several of us "Nazis." Challenge any of them, with any type of debate of any kind and the first thing out of their mouth is that word. They're programmed to say it. It's pretty funny. LMAO

Oh, I was at the game with my buddy, who is a Navajo Indian He was called a Nazi also...:rolleyes:

I get the point I do, the problem is that because we don't have a Viking history built into American culture, no one really cares.

Until they go global with the NFL and the Scandinavian Nations get involved. But that won't happen because most people just see it for what it is. But it is the exact same argument.

I'm not arguing with you over it, because you said you get the point. I'm just making a statement.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s time to change the team name. <a href="https://t.co/bhPVWSOHdX">https://t.co/bhPVWSOHdX</a></p>&mdash; Jeremy Danner (@Jeremy_Danner) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Danner/status/1597246804646834176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There is actually a great movie about this called “Wind River”. Highly recommend.

https://youtu.be/W7V9Fsll5qM

I don't care. I really just...don't care.

i think the finger sniff after a catch/TD should be banned first :D

The Star ran with the Eric Bienemy hit piece you and Marty cooked up.

Meh, he just looks like some pudgy wanna be hipster dork that doesn’t even watch football anyways.

Yes, tell a bunch of fan what they cannot do and see how far you get.

The funny thing is that the "activists" march around like a bunch of brownshirts chanting their slogans and encouraging violence against those with whom they disagree. They have an incredibly poor understanding of their own position on the nazi spectrum.

I thought I saw the Cheerleaders do a couple of chops this past Sunday when I was at the game.

Well if some random guy on Twitter says so, then I guess we better start coming up with some alternatives!

Maybe everyone moons the field at the same time?

"Jeremy Danner" is Navajo for "Cum guzzling bundle of sticks".

Jeremy Danner
@Jeremy_Danner
On-Premise Specialist & Brand Ambassador for 4 Hands Brewing - I ❤️ @randyldanner, my midsize roommate, pit bulls & the @Royals. Tweets are my personal thoughts

I think along with the rainbow stuff on his Twitter account it is easy to figure out where this is all stemming from. NTTATWWT

People could use the whole social thing against him and go straight to 4 hands Brewing and call for his job and all that stuff.

While we're at, we need to fine/fire all refs who signal "1st Down". That looks the same as a chop, and it demeans the legacy of Native Americans. And no more blankets in the stadium! That obviously symbolizes the the smallpox blankets given to the Mandan Indians . Oh, and making crowd noise at record-setting decibels is also triggering, and fans should use "jazz hands" instead. That is all.

It wouldn't be the first time people have complained about Danner's social media advocacy to his employers. They don't care.

Re: the chop, I'd rather lose the chop now and keep the team name long-term than keep the chop and have to become the Kansas City [insert dumb new name here].

I think I would hang myself from the ceiling beams if The Red Star conducted a poll asking for new Chief's names, ad would suggest mascots that related to BBQ or The Wizard of Oz.

If they had to change, it would obviously be something royalty related to stick with the KC theme.

It's kind of a shame the independent baseball team was allowed to adopt Monarchs and the Monarchs inspired logo. That would have been quasi-acceptable.

Not sure what else is there.

They are the ****in Chiefs. Get over it. Sticks and stones......

Kansas City Burnt Ends

KC Oblong Sportsball Team

You just nailed it. And that is ALWAYS the case with those fools.

Kansas City Kings is what I fear. I worry that whole "Kingdom" thing is grooming us.

Changing the team name is stupid.


However I wouldn't miss the chop for one second, it's tired, played out and not even original.

Oh stfu

I guarantee that would make The Star's final cut, though...and the helmet symbol would be a Charlie Podrebarac drawing of a cow

Head dresses and Rock and Roll Part 2 are both gone. No more.

good

How anyone could be both brainwashed and stupid enough to be offended by our team's name is beyond my comprehension.

Do these lunatics understand the real problems facing the world these days? I actually somewhat understand the Redskins issue, it was literally a racial slur. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the term Chief, and anyone who thinks there is doesn't have an IQ high enough to actively participate in a civilized society.

Slam dunk. 100% spot on.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/qC5VW...giphy.gif&ct=g

Huh, that's weird. I didn't see any of that.

Personally, I'm not offended by it. I think the organization's move away from culturally appropriated imagery is smart and shows forethought, and and may save the name long-term. Dumping the chop and the war drum would be continued steps along that path.

But if there are Native Americans who say the name is offensive to them, it's also not my place to tell them their opinion is wrong, IMO.

yeah no problem with losing either of those 2 things especially the gary glitter song

Bro, open your eyes. He's correct.

I agree with this. I hardly ever participate in that these days.

Am I misremembering or didn't the Chiefs say they were going to stop doing that a couple of seasons ago?

The Kansas City Crabs

The problem with this kind of thing usually is that it is just a tiny minority of people who are offended and make the biggest stink. I'd be willing to bet that a vast majority of Native Americans are not offended by this and would not be on board with forcing the Chiefs to change their name.

shut the **** up 31-13

That is the issue, definitely.

I would think if you're trying to make the case that "Chiefs" is an honorific, that serves the dual purpose of honoring the native peoples of the area while also alluding to Bartle for making the team happen, it is helpful to avoid having anything that can be hammered as a cultural appropriation.

So dumping the chop and even the war drum (keep the drum, make it not obviously native people inspired) is a step in that direction, IMO.

Including native people in the drum ceremony seems to be their solution to any cultural appropriation perceptions.

Or a fooball player in uniform holding an uzi

That's the thing, have you heard of any Native American groups speaking out against our name? I sure haven't. I did in the Redskins situation and also regarding the Cleveland Indians and their ridiculous logo, but nothing about the Chiefs, unless I've missed it.

All I've seen is a bunch of virtue signaling white people with too much time on their hands rambling about something nobody else is offended by, trying to ruin something people love to make themselves feel like they're making a difference, when in reality they are doing absolutely nothing good for the world and never will.

It’s insulting to watch the Washington Commies… bring back the Redskins… it was a great name.

They asked people to do it with a closed fist instead of an open hand.

The group that was there on Oct 12 included some members of area Native American tribes. That's the only time I recall it recently.

The Chiefs have the benefit of not having a mascot as blatantly racists as Cleveland's Chief Wahoo, or as blatantly appropriating a sacred piece of Native Culture as the University of Illinois' Chief Illiniwek (which featured a headress modeled after the ones worn by Sioux chieftains).

I think they can continue to head off calls for a name change by being careful and thoughtful about traditions.

I get that some people love the chop. They're likely the same people that love doing the wave. I find both silly and played out and refuse to participate in either one, though. So it's hard for me to look at that the same way.

If the chop has to go, so be it. I don't know that they'll ever be able to pull it off, though. The Braves tried to get people to stop a few years ago and failed miserably.

Unless they are going to threaten to actively throw people out of the game, it's going to be really difficult to end it completely.

Not trying to be dense but what exactly would this accomplish?

You can punch the person in front of you in the back of the head without any accountability.

Absolutely nothing, just like this entire movement.

It's like the headress thing. Or the kickoff song.

Stop playing the song/music that accompanies it. Key is the org just doesn't support it in a public way that can be called out.

I have a former coworker who is now a state rep. She is part NA. She talked and has passed legislation to look into the disappearance of young women from tribes in Minnesota. It is never really talked about here, because they are so far away from the cities and news here does not cover that far.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/tex...sion_year=2018

Good luck telling Arrowhead to stop...

They were asking fans to emulate the beating of a drum as opposed to a "tomahawk chop".

If the chop got banned and the stadium did it anyway, it would become a protest. Just letting it go causes a lot less drama.

The telecasts show the crowd doing the chop.

I'm indifferent to it but wonder how big of a ticket item it really is when its clearly being televised.

Yeah, it's one thing for the organization to state they don't want fans to do it. But 80,000 drunk passionate fans are gonna cheer how they want. It'll happen even if they don't provide the stadium music that normally accompanies it.

Washington Commies, that's perfect lol. It reflects the situation to a T.

And that's fine, I think.

The organization gets a little cover this way. But maybe they don't feel it is necessary.

Yeah, that seems...silly. I mean the motion is the same, the "chant" (which is probably the most offensive part) is the same. Seems like they're focused on simulated violence or something, which again, is silly.

The chop is embarrassing imho

Yup. A perfect example of leftist virtue signaling for meaningless bullshit while ignoring the real problems facing whatever minority they are attempting to pander to so Karen will vote for them.

Just increase ticket prices and game day experience cost and the riffraff will stay home LMAO







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I don’t know if I’ve done the chop much, more into drinking beers

Not to beat a dead horse, but that’s the thing. With people like Jeremy in the world when you give an inch they take a mile. It’s never good enough nor is compromise acceptable to them. Therefore they should just get to pout and never be given a nibble of their virtue signal goals.

Good luck stopping 77,000 riled up fans from doing the chop.</br></br>GFY!

I would be thrilled to trade the chop for the Gary Glitter post-TD celebration.

One is lame and the other was the most fun part of the Arrowhead experience.

Yea, of course I also think the Chiefs is a dumb name and would rather it be changed. I do not find it offensive I just don't think its good overall even though I have grown up with it.

That sounds cringe as ****.

Fat Farva doesn't like the Chiefs name or chop. I'm shocked.

I think since they(what ever two people it was.)started disparaging The Chop, The Chop became louder and more powerful. Go figure!

Can you imagine Jim Thorpe promoting the NFL in full Headdress?

The horror.

The horror of it all.

LMAO

This is correct and unfortunately, it's also the reason that they'll force the Chiefs to change their name. No matter when they do it, lots of us will be very angry about it. It will take time, but eventually people will get over whether they accept the new name or the angry people die off. I think a name change is inevitable.

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Oh, for ****'s sake.

**** 'em. It's a free country (kind of, still). You don't like the name or the chop, you're free to go be a fan of another team. There's 31 of them; good luck. There's no one or anything making any of you silly tards be a fan of the Chiefs, in case that little factoid escaped your tiny over-sensitive minds. Get a life, for pete's sake. Just do it somewhere else, please.

You are being over dramatic.

Now here’s a movement I can get behind.

You want to change the name of the team because 'Chiefs' hurts your feels. Who's being overly dramatic?

Lol he posted a screenshot from this thread and has people talking shit about us..fun times.

It hurts my feelings? Where are you getting this from?

It does not hurt my feelings at all. I just think it is not a great name. No need to make up fake things.

The only people with hurt feelings are the ones who are so emotionally tied to the chop (for some reason) that they are letting some random dude on the internet get under their skin so much.

LMAO