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tredadda 01-08-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15455417)
Yea he has no leverage unless he’s willing to be VERY difficult.

Like I said, I’d entertain this trade being done this year if the Texans had their #3 overall pick.

Without a franchise QB in place or in reach, the Texans aren’t going to trade Watson right now.

Perhaps he develops a lot of "back issues" and sits out.

tredadda 01-08-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 15455319)
Lawrence or Watson

Watson easily. He is a proven commodity, Lawrence is all potential right now.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-08-2021 03:49 PM

Full story at Yahoo Sports http://a.msn.com/02/en-us/BB1cAI0a?ocid=st

Though McNair said he hasn’t spoken with Watson yet, he is hoping to have that conversation soon.

"I've come to understand that it's been reported that Deshaun feels left out of the process, but he and I had several visits and I understood his point of view before meeting with candidates," McNair said Friday, via ESPN. "I've reached out to Deshaun about Nick's hire, and I look forward to him getting back to me when he returns from his vacation."

Watson ‘extremely unhappy’ with Texans, McNair
Watson, who just finished his fourth season with the Texans, has reportedly been ignoring calls from management in recent days.

htismaqe 01-08-2021 03:58 PM

Translation:

I talked to Deshaun but just don't give a **** what he thinks.

FAH-Q 01-08-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15456465)
Translation:

I talked to Deshaun but just don't give a **** what he thinks.

You mean: “Can’t have the inmates running the prison”

Interesting how this quote continues to resonate with this owner as his personal mantra.

Buehler445 01-08-2021 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAH-Q (Post 15456483)
You mean: “Can’t have the inmates running the prison”

Interesting how this quote continues to resonate with this owner as his personal mantra.

That’s it! That’s the racist quote I was asking about before.

Thanks man.

nychief 01-08-2021 04:34 PM

trade him to the jets.

RedinTexas 01-08-2021 04:59 PM

I just saw a report on the Texans board that Bienemy has said he has no interest in going to Houston. FWIW they also said EB is going to be coach of the Jets.

chiefzilla1501 01-08-2021 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15456465)
Translation:

I talked to Deshaun but just don't give a **** what he thinks.

It's pretty crazy that they wouldn't even give a courtesy interview. These patriots douches have such tunnel vision they couldn't even do that.

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2021 05:29 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He very much wanted the job, and in fact thought he would be the frontrunner.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1347678941553725440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Skyy God 01-08-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15456665)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He very much wanted the job, and in fact thought he would be the frontrunner.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1347678941553725440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think he wanted nothing to do with that tire fire.

Easterby, lol.

https://defector.com/the-houston-tex...their-star-qb/

Buehler445 01-09-2021 03:00 AM

Sounds like CYA from Houston Brass.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-09-2021 07:40 AM

Despondent Watson

KChiefs1 01-09-2021 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 15456594)
I just saw a report on the Texans board that Bienemy has said he has no interest in going to Houston. FWIW they also said EB is going to be coach of the Jets.


Texans are the worst job.

ChiefsCountry 01-09-2021 10:13 AM

Just watch the Texans hire Josh McDaniels. Trade Watson to 49ers for Jimmy G and picks. Keep the Patriot Way going!

thabear04 01-10-2021 10:57 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources say Watson could play hardball with Texans about a trade. His new $156 million contract includes a no-trade clause but informed speculation from a source is that he would consider the <a href="https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MiamiDolphins</a> in which Tua Tagovailoa and additional compensation goes to Houston.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/1348308843193839616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In58men 01-10-2021 10:59 AM

Watson is definitely going to be traded.

Sounds like this issue isn’t repairable.

AndChiefs 01-10-2021 11:01 AM

Houston would trade for the bum Tua. At best, he’ll develop into Alex Smith and probably not even that.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2021 11:04 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also worth noting: One source said this week that, after Houston traded Pro Bowl wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins last off-season, Deshaun Watson’s anger level was “a 2….This time, it’s a 10.” <a href="https://t.co/CsqZYbe3OK">https://t.co/CsqZYbe3OK</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1348299187968999424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DRM08 01-10-2021 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 15463165)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources say Watson could play hardball with Texans about a trade. His new $156 million contract includes a no-trade clause but informed speculation from a source is that he would consider the <a href="https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MiamiDolphins</a> in which Tua Tagovailoa and additional compensation goes to Houston.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/1348308843193839616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Additional compensation from Miami to Houston. Any chance it would be that #3 overall draft pick that the Texans gave to Miami in the Tunsil trade? LMAO

smithandrew051 01-10-2021 11:21 AM

They absolutely need a divorce. They aren’t winning shit together. That franchise is in a terrible place. High paid QB with garbage around him, cap issues, and no picks.

staylor26 01-10-2021 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15463171)
Watson is definitely going to be traded.

Sounds like this issue isn’t repairable.

Lol no.

He has no leverage.

RunKC 01-10-2021 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15463220)
Lol no.

He has no leverage.

What do you mean? They have no draft picks and Watson is the best QB they’ve ever had.

He can retire and break away from them. They don’t have any leverage here.

Easy 6 01-10-2021 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15463206)
They absolutely need a divorce. They aren’t winning shit together. That franchise is in a terrible place. High paid QB with garbage around him, cap issues, and no picks.

.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-10-2021 11:31 AM

Surely Belichick would not go to that depleted team

DRM08 01-10-2021 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15463220)
Lol no.

He has no leverage.

High cap hits could be leverage. His 2021 cap hit is only $16M, but 2022 jumps to $40M.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2021 11:33 AM

I sense a phantom back injury in his future.

GloucesterChief 01-10-2021 11:42 AM

It is too bad they can close the roof on NRG so the Texans fans can't fly banners.

RunKC 01-10-2021 11:43 AM

Also if Watson isn’t traded to the NFC, Miami is a great place. Having the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the AFC in the same division is great for us. 1 of them won’t have HFA.

But yeah if Watson goes to Miami I’d consider them the 2nd best team in the AFC.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2021 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 15463165)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources say Watson could play hardball with Texans about a trade. His new $156 million contract includes a no-trade clause but informed speculation from a source is that he would consider the <a href="https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MiamiDolphins</a> in which Tua Tagovailoa and additional compensation goes to Houston.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/1348308843193839616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If I'm Watson I steer the **** away from these bellichick regimes. There's only so many times you can get burned by these stubborn assholes. Miami seems a little less patriot way stubborn but they are from the same damn tree that produced Watsons shitshows with Obrien and Caserio.

RunKC 01-10-2021 11:48 AM

If I was a fan I’d disown that franchise if they did this. Holy shit LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Had a few execs text me a siimilar trade concept regarding Texans should the situation with Watson go nuclear: Jimmy G plus several high picks for Watson. Caserio/Jimmy reunion. Gets Watson out of the AFC kinda like how Belichick wouldn&#39;t trade Jimmy within the AFC.</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1348313292666757122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

CasselGotPeedOn 01-10-2021 11:48 AM

Sounds like ESPN tried to put words in his mouth...


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watson&#39;s unhappiness with Texans is not strongly connected to social justice issues, a source close to the quarterback clarifies, even though those issues are important.<br>His unhappiness is more current with state of franchise and what has transpired. <a href="https://t.co/wV4UDEIYzd">https://t.co/wV4UDEIYzd</a></p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/1348317486014484483?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 01-10-2021 11:49 AM

I still think the Vikings would be a good fit. They have great weapons and he would be a huge boost at QB.

Then they could allocate all remaining resources to the defense and OL.

smithandrew051 01-10-2021 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15463273)
If I was a fan I’d disown that franchise if they did this. Holy shit LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Had a few execs text me a siimilar trade concept regarding Texans should the situation with Watson go nuclear: Jimmy G plus several high picks for Watson. Caserio/Jimmy reunion. Gets Watson out of the AFC kinda like how Belichick wouldn&#39;t trade Jimmy within the AFC.</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1348313292666757122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Depends on how many high draft picks. I don’t think the 49ers would agree to an amount of picks that would satisfy me if I were a Texans fan though. I would be pissed with less than like 3 firsts and a couple seconds.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2021 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15463273)
If I was a fan I’d disown that franchise if they did this. Holy shit LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Had a few execs text me a siimilar trade concept regarding Texans should the situation with Watson go nuclear: Jimmy G plus several high picks for Watson. Caserio/Jimmy reunion. Gets Watson out of the AFC kinda like how Belichick wouldn&#39;t trade Jimmy within the AFC.</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1348313292666757122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That would be amazing much as id hate to see Shanahan get a weapon like deshaun. What a surprise... He has a hard on for an ex patriots qb.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2021 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15463283)
Depends on how many high draft picks. I don’t think the 49ers would agree to an amount of picks that would satisfy me if I were a Texans fan though. I would be pissed with less than like 3 firsts and a couple seconds.

Or will they overvalue jimmy g because of their hard on they have for getting a patriot way qb.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-10-2021 12:01 PM

Watson

For

Tua
3rd pick
18th pick
2022 1st or 2nd

Is that too much? Not enough?

RunKC 01-10-2021 12:02 PM

Imagine Watson in the NFC West. That whole division would be a MASH unit beating up on each other

Deberg_1990 01-10-2021 12:04 PM

Wow. What a downgrade this would be for the Texans. Miami would be instant contenders


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson is unhappy with the Texans&#39; handling of their hiring process &amp; the state of the franchise, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mortreport</a>.<br><br>Informed speculation is that Watson would consider waiving his no-trade clause to join the Dolphins in a swap for Tua Tagovailoa, a source said. <a href="https://t.co/rqZ45NHBov">pic.twitter.com/rqZ45NHBov</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1348320033836036097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 01-10-2021 12:10 PM

It would be hilarious if the Texans traded him to the Saints for Hill and picks then tried to make Hill their starter.

DRM08 01-10-2021 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15463314)
Wow. What a downgrade this would be for the Texans. Miami would be instant contenders


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson is unhappy with the Texans&#39; handling of their hiring process &amp; the state of the franchise, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mortreport</a>.<br><br>Informed speculation is that Watson would consider waiving his no-trade clause to join the Dolphins in a swap for Tua Tagovailoa, a source said. <a href="https://t.co/rqZ45NHBov">pic.twitter.com/rqZ45NHBov</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1348320033836036097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Houston needs to save money in their rebuilding efforts. Tua has the cheap rookie contract for a good amount of time. Deshaun's cap hit jumps to $40M in 2022.

el borracho 01-10-2021 12:20 PM

What a terrible time to be a Texans fan. They have the QB, but no team and no picks to build a team and now the QB may want out. I don't see any scenario where the Texans are any good in the next 2-3 years.

Deberg_1990 01-10-2021 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15463355)
What a terrible time to be a Texans fan. They have the QB, but no team and no picks to build a team and now the QB may want out. I don't see any scenario where the Texans are any good in the next 2-3 years.

A patriot way buffoon put them in that situation. Only to be replaced by more patriot way idiocracy.

:facepalm:

RedinTexas 01-10-2021 12:30 PM

Houston is a pro-football town and they are very into the Texans. The fans are getting livid though, with the idiotic things going on. The Texans can recover with their fan base, but not without making the team good in a hurry. If they go into an extended funk, the fans will desert them until the team recovers.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-10-2021 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15463343)
Houston needs to save money in their rebuilding efforts. Tua has the cheap rookie contract for a good amount of time. Deshaun's cap hit jumps to $40M in 2022.

Yeah, they need to sign the 2021 versions of Brokedick Vrabel and O'Failaghan.

RealSNR 01-10-2021 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15463355)
What a terrible time to be a Texans fan. They have the QB, but no team and no picks to build a team and now the QB may want out. I don't see any scenario where the Texans are any good in the next 2-3 years.


Yeah. At least when KC had Patriot AIDS we didn’t have a QB to piss off. As much as some fans were duped by Cassel (including me for a brief period) they never had to suffer through having a QB and getting him wrenched away but keeping the boneheads in power who ****ed up the whole good thing they had.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2021 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15463380)
A patriot way buffoon put them in that situation. Only to be replaced by more patriot way idiocracy.

:facepalm:

Which is why I don't understand why Miami would be in the mix. Seems like a giant red flag for deshaun.

ToxSocks 01-11-2021 01:20 PM

And now the Texans are on a minority coach interview run after being the only team to not interview Bieniemy. Oddly, all of a sudden, they're interviewing David Culley, Jim Caldwell and Leslie Frazier.

htismaqe 01-11-2021 01:23 PM

I didn't see this posted but apparently Watson isn't the only one upset with McNair and the Texans. The dude is a first class moron, apparently. He spent big money on a search firm, let them present their findings, and then hired somebody that wasn't even on the list.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...io-sources-say

Quote:

Had the Houston Texans stayed the course and followed the recommendation of the search firm Korn Ferry, they likely would have hired Pittsburgh Steelers vice president of football and business administration Omar Khan as their next general manager, league sources told ESPN.

Khan and ESPN Monday Night Football analyst Louis Riddick, who are both minority candidates, were the two finalists before Texans owner Cal McNair changed his mind, ignored the recommendation of the search firm he paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do weeks of work and hired former New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio, sources said.

Multiple people in the Texans organization, including quarterback Deshaun Watson, were upset with how Houston's search took a sudden and unexpected turn, hiring a man that Korn Ferry did not include on its list of candidates.

With new GM Nick Caserio, Texans double down on Patriots-like culture
Watson is said to be furious over the decision, and others are as well, with some saying that there will be employees who wind up leaving the organization during the offseason.

The quarterback is on vacation, and McNair said he expects to speak with Watson once he returns. But how that will go, if it happens, remains uncertain.

Watson had been assured by McNair that he would be involved in the process to hire a new coach and general manager and kept in the loop on the progress in those searches, but that didn't happen.

Some around the league believe that Watson could opt to withhold his services this season. Watson has not commented on that option, but others insist it will be in play.

One person who knows Watson said this week that, after the Texans traded Pro Bowl wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins last offseason, the quarterback's anger level was "a 2. ... This time, it's a 10."

Pants 01-11-2021 01:24 PM

Watson vs Allen for AFCE supremacy would be fun every year.

htismaqe 01-11-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15468887)
Watson vs Allen for AFCE supremacy would be fun every year.

Delete your post now.

Because you know damn well that what will happen is that somehow he'll end up in New England.

RunKC 01-11-2021 01:56 PM

FWIW Matt Miller said it was no secret that Nick Caserio loved Tua last Spring and wanted to draft him but was obviously out of range.

I think this is the likely trade if there is one

Sassy Squatch 01-12-2021 02:17 PM

Yikes LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I’m <a href="https://twitter.com/deshaunwatson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@deshaunwatson</a> I will stand my ground. The Texans organization is known for wasting players careers. Since Jack Easterby has walk into the building nothing good has happened in/for the organization and for some reason someone can’t seem to see what’s going on. Pathetic!!!</p>&mdash; Andre Johnson (@johnson80) <a href="https://twitter.com/johnson80/status/1349084500840640518?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ToxSocks 01-12-2021 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15469008)
FWIW Matt Miller said it was no secret that Nick Caserio loved Tua last Spring and wanted to draft him but was obviously out of range.

Texans are ****ed.

Sassy Squatch 01-12-2021 02:31 PM

https://i.redd.it/xqp7jkvhnya61.jpg

staylor26 01-12-2021 03:12 PM

I saw somebody compare Easterby to Littlefinger from GOT.

What a perfect comparison LMAO

Mecca 01-12-2021 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15471655)
I saw somebody compare Easterby to Littlefinger from GOT.

What a perfect comparison LMAO

That was me....it was me all along.

RedinTexas 01-13-2021 08:20 AM

And now, the Texans want to interview Bienemy. Holy crap. Earlier in the thread I said they were a dumpster fire. I was wrong. They're three orders of magnitude beyond that.

joethomas 01-13-2021 08:41 AM

I hope EB tells them to take a hike

RedinTexas 01-13-2021 08:48 AM

They can't interview him now until after the Chiefs season is done. Does anyone think that this will satisfy Watson if they do anything short of hiring EB?

CoMoChief 01-13-2021 08:57 AM

Can't say I blame Watson.

Though I would have bolted as soon as O'Brien traded Hopkins.

Pretty soon the Texans are gonna be like the Jets/Lions/Jags. In fact I wouldn't blame any player for wanting to get out of a shitty situation like being on either one of those franchises.

You only play in the NFL for so long...

RedinTexas 01-13-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 15472982)
Dont think this is true...EB has had multiple interviews with multiple teams up to this point.

I admit that I don't know for sure, but they said on PFT that the window to conduct these interviews is closed and that teams will now have to wait until the season is over for the coaches' team.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 15472989)
I admit that I don't know for sure, but they said on PFT that the window to conduct these interviews is closed and that teams will now have to wait until the season is over for the coaches' team.

They can't interview a coaching that is actively preparing for a game.

They would have to interview him during the bye week, which ended Sunday.

tredadda 01-13-2021 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 15472935)
And now, the Texans want to interview Bienemy. Holy crap. Earlier in the thread I said they were a dumpster fire. I was wrong. They're three orders of magnitude beyond that.

If I were EB I would not take that job unless I had no other offers. That team is a dumpster fire and the only light they have is a disgruntled Watson.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15472996)
If I were EB I would not take that job unless I had no other offers. That team is a dumpster fire and the only light they have is a disgruntled Watson.

Even if he had zero other offers, why would he take the Texans job? It's setup for failure.

chiefzilla1501 01-13-2021 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 15472935)
And now, the Texans want to interview Bienemy. Holy crap. Earlier in the thread I said they were a dumpster fire. I was wrong. They're three orders of magnitude beyond that.

They don't really want to. They just caught with their pants down and are trying to save face.

wazu 01-13-2021 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15473004)
Even if he had zero other offers, why would he take the Texans job? It's setup for failure.

Eh...teams looking for new coaches aren't typically in great position. At least here you've got the best QB in the division. New GM could be good, we don't know. Gotta take the opportunity when you get it. Turn the situation around.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15473036)
Eh...teams looking for new coaches aren't typically in great position. At least here you've got the best QB in the division. New GM could be good, we don't know. Gotta take the opportunity when you get it. Turn the situation around.

Seriously?

The team is run by a self-styled "man of God" that lied about his qualifications to get a job in the NFL.

The team is own by a man that paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to a search firm to compile a list of possible GM candidates, then wiped his ass with the list and flushed it, along with the hundreds of thousands of dollars, down the toilet by hiring somebody that wasn't on the list.

The GM is a Patriot Way cast-off who hasn't proven he can run a team without Bill, just like the rest of them. Just like the guy he JUST FIRED.

Finally, the best QB in the division is hinting at holding out or demanding a trade because he's so mad about the above 3.

Buehler445 01-13-2021 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joethomas (Post 15472953)
I hope EB tells them to take a hike

ROFL

This whole fiasco is fun!

If I'm EB, and I want to dick over an AFC competitor and make it worse, I take the interview, sandbag so I for sure don't get an offer. Then hit up Watson telling him the interview went well and he can't wait to work with him.

And spin the tilt-o-whirl another round LOL

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2021 09:31 AM

That job in incredibly toxic now. Seems like every high profile Texans player past and present showed some type of support for Andre Johnson's tweet ripping into Easterby. The fact he just got McNair to hire his hand picked GM while ignoring the advice of the search committee and pissing off the franchise player in the process speaks volumes. You're essentially going to be a lame duck coach until the current organization finally fractures.

RedinTexas 01-13-2021 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15473020)
They don't really want to. They just caught with their pants down and are trying to save face.

I agree. They're just going through the motions to satisfy Watson. If I were Watson I would change my demands. I would demand that EB be hired and given a 5 year guaranteed contract.

wazu 01-13-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15473049)
Seriously?

The team is run by a self-styled man of God that lied about his qualifications to get a job in the NFL.

The team is own by a man that paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to a search firm to compile a list of possible GM candidates, then wiped his ass with the list and flushed it, along with the hundreds of thousands of dollars down the toilet by hiring somebody that wasn't on the list.

The GM is a Patriot Way cast-off who hasn't proven he can run a team without Bill, just like the rest of them.

Finally, the best QB in the division is hinting at holding out because he's so mad about the above 3.

The only thing relevant that I'd follow up on before taking the job would be the last point. It sounded like Watson was wanting EB, so if that's who they hired my guess is he could smooth that over. I'm not thrilled with their GM choice but I also don't think it's a foregone conclusion he will fail simply because he has worked for the Patriots. If you get one offer, and it's from Houston, you take the job.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15473058)
That job in incredibly toxic now. Seems like every high profile Texans player past and present showed some type of support for Andre Johnson's tweet ripping into Easterby. The fact he just got McNair to hire his hand picked GM while ignoring the advice of the search committee and pissing off the franchise player in the process speaks volumes. You're essentially going to be a lame duck coach until the current organization finally fractures.

Exactly.

Several of the bad teams in the NFL suffer from ineptitude.

Only the Texans seem to be driven by the hubris that their ineptitude is actually not ineptitude.

tredadda 01-13-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15473004)
Even if he had zero other offers, why would he take the Texans job? It's setup for failure.

Because a HC job is better than no HC job. No guarantees that he will get another opportunity. He didn't get one last year in spite of KC winning the SB and if the Texans job is the only one available then that says a lot about his prospects.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15473071)
The only thing relevant that I'd follow up on before taking the job would be the last point. It sounded like Watson was wanting EB, so if that's who they hired my guess is he could smooth that over. I'm not thrilled with their GM choice but I also don't think it's a foregone conclusion he will fail simply because he has worked for the Patriots. If you get one offer, and it's from Houston, you take the job.

He's going to fail because the entire tree is rotten, from McNair on down.

Nick Caserio isn't even in charge, Jack Easterby is. A guy who knows nothing about football except when he's comparing the crucifixion of Jesus to the greatest game ever played.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15473083)
Because a HC job is better than no HC job. No guarantees that he will get another opportunity. He didn't get one last year in spite of KC winning the SB and if the Texans job is the only one available then that says a lot about his prospects.

He makes a lot of money. The only reason to take a HC job is to increase his stature.

He's not going to do that in Houston. It's much more probably that he ends his career a failure and actually finishes his career with LESS stature than if he stayed in KC.

He'd be absolutely stupid to go to Houston.

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2021 09:44 AM

LMAO Caserio loved Tua, right. His own teammates don't seem to share that opinion.

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tredadda 01-13-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15473086)
He makes a lot of money. The only reason to take a HC job is to increase his stature.

He's not going to do that in Houston. It's much more probably that he ends his career a failure and actually finishes his career with LESS stature than if he stayed in KC.

He'd be absolutely stupid to go to Houston.

I understand what you mean and I don't completely disagree. All I am saying is that after two years and the Texans being his only offer he would have to think long and hard as he might not get another HC opportunity. There should be no coordinator more hot right now than EB based off of last year and this year. Don't get me wrong, if there is another HC position being offered to him outside of the Texans then he should look at that first.

chiefzilla1501 01-13-2021 10:03 AM

Don't know if this was ever brought up. But keep in mind that Houston got caught with tampering for Caserio a year ago. So Caserio is bill Obriens boy. I think Watson is still furious about the Hopkins trade and why wouldnt he be. So when he talks about the same ole shit, not a good look at all to hire your fired head coach's golden boy and not consult your team captain about it.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15473099)
I understand what you mean and I don't completely disagree. All I am saying is that after two years and the Texans being his only offer he would have to think long and hard as he might not get another HC opportunity. There should be no coordinator more hot right now than EB based off of last year and this year. Don't get me wrong, if there is another HC position being offered to him outside of the Texans then he should look at that first.

Sorry man, I just don't agree.

If the Texans are the only ones offering, there's something wrong. He'd be better off getting no offers at all.


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