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The Franchise 02-24-2021 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15563335)
I've literally not seen a single reputable scouting report that says that.

And I’ve yet to see one that says the opposite.

Chris Meck 02-24-2021 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15563381)
And I’ve yet to see one that says the opposite.

He played more right than left in college, but every single report I've read indicates that he has all of the physical attributes to be able to play on either side. "scheme transcendent talent' says Draftnetwork.

I'm not even really pushing to draft the kid, just sayin'.

kccrow 02-24-2021 10:43 PM

Here's my run taking just the top player available on the board every single time and can't say I wouldn't mind it.

31.

Kansas City Chiefs
Alijah Vera-Tucker
IOL, USC
63.

Kansas City Chiefs
Joe Tryon
EDGE, Washington
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jabril Cox
LB, LSU
136.

Kansas City Chiefs
Rodarius Williams
CB, Oklahoma State
144.

Kansas City Chiefs
Seth Williams
WR, Auburn
176.

Kansas City Chiefs
Shi Smith
WR, South Carolina
180.

Kansas City Chiefs
Josh Imatorbhebhe
WR, Illinois
252.

Kansas City Chiefs
Robert Rochell
CB, Central Arkansas


And then here's today's actual pickem

31.

Kansas City Chiefs
Zaven Collins
LB, Tulsa
63.

Kansas City Chiefs
Josh Myers
IOL, Ohio State
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Tylan Wallace
WR, Oklahoma State
136.

Kansas City Chiefs
Walker Little
OT, Stanford
144.

Kansas City Chiefs
Rodarius Williams
CB, Oklahoma State
176.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jonathon Cooper
EDGE, Ohio State
180.

Kansas City Chiefs
Divine Deablo
S, Virginia Tech
252.

Kansas City Chiefs
Marquez Stevenson
WR, Houston

CatfishBob2 02-25-2021 10:51 AM

Tried the player rankings instead of the predictive draft. Top of the board went really weird. For the record I'd rather trade out of the first than take the TE there. Tried taking BPA rather than reaching for a need and this is what I got

31.
Kansas City Chiefs
Brevin Jordan
TE, Miami

63.
Kansas City Chiefs
Walker Little
OT, Stanford

94.
Kansas City Chiefs
Payton Turner
EDGE, Houston

136.
Kansas City Chiefs
Anthony Schwartz
WR, Auburn

144.
Kansas City Chiefs
Chris Evans
RB, Michigan

176.
Kansas City Chiefs
Monty Rice
LB, Georgia

180.
Kansas City Chiefs
Bryce Hargrove
IOL, Pittsburgh

252.
Kansas City Chiefs
Mac McCain III
CB, North Carolina A&T

kccrow 02-25-2021 11:00 AM

Not that I have any control over it but I'd go off the deep end ranting about picking a TE in round 1. It's a ridiculous use of draft capital for a team that doesn't need a primary TE and doesn't operate enough out of 12 to warrant that type of investment.

duncan_idaho 02-25-2021 11:18 AM

I like Chris Evans a lot as a late-round RB target. Lot of upside there.

Yeah, Jordan that high would be tough to stomach (even Freiermuth would draw some questions). I love the rest of it, though.

KChiefs1 02-25-2021 11:27 AM

Did a lot of trade downs & came up with this:

51. Landon Dickerson
OL Alabama

63. Amon-Ra St. Brown
WR USC

94. Jabril Cox
LB LSU

124. James Wiggins
S Cincinnati

136. Walker Little
OT Stanford

144. Elerson Smith
Edge Northern Iowa

164. Josh Imatorbhebhe
WR Illinois

176. Naquan Jones
DT Michigan State

180. Shakur Brown
CB Michigan State

CatfishBob2 02-25-2021 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15563725)
Not that I have any control over it but I'd go off the deep end ranting about picking a TE in round 1. It's a ridiculous use of draft capital for a team that doesn't need a primary TE and doesn't operate enough out of 12 to warrant that type of investment.

I agree that's why I said I'd trade out of the first before I picked TE there but I'm not paying the 10 bucks just for that lol. I'd really like another TE in the draft though

MahomesMagic 02-25-2021 12:07 PM

1st, Jalen Mayfield, Tackle Michigan

Don't expect him to make it to us, but if so, run in the card.


2nd, Chaz Surratt, Linebacker North Carolina

KC gets a 3 down LB and now Willie Gay becomes a weapon we can use to blitz or drop in coverage.

3rd, Seth Williams, WR Auburn

6'3'' WR that can go get the ball and just pops talent wise. Not everything is perfect but a guy this big should not be able to run some of the routes he does.

KChiefs1 02-25-2021 12:19 PM

31.Gregory Rousseau
EDGE, Miami

63. Amon-Ra St. Brown
WR, USC

94. Walker Little
OT, Stanford

136. James Wiggins
S, Cincinnati

144. Jack Anderson
IOL, Texas Tech

duncan_idaho 02-25-2021 12:43 PM

I just ran one on the draft network using their rankings board rather than predictive for the first time.

31. Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami
63. Javon Holland, S, Oregon
94. Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama (don’t like taking the injury concerns but the upside/value here is immense)
136. Austin Watkins, WR, UAB
144. Chris Evans, RB, Michigan
176. Josh Ball, OT, Marshall
180. Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas
224. Shi Smith, WR, South Carolina

I felt like that draft ran a little better on their site than using their predictive board.

I also would like this a lot for KC.

The Franchise 02-25-2021 01:22 PM

40.

Zaven Collins
LB Tulsa
trade icon
KC
63.

Hamsah Nasirildeen
S Florida State
KC
71.

Walker Little
OT Stanford
trade icon
KC
94.

Joe Tryon
EDGE Washington
KC
138.

Cade Johnson
WR South Dakota State
trade icon
KC
144.

Osa Odighizuwa
DT UCLA
KC
176.

Jamin Davis
LB Kentucky
KC
179.

Jack Anderson
OG Texas Tech
trade icon
KC
180.

Anthony Schwartz
WR Auburn

FULL RESULTS

Bowser 02-25-2021 06:22 PM

Trying this again

31. Jalen Mayfield - OT - Michigan
63. Chazz Surratt - LB - North Carolina
94. Hunter Long - TE - Boston College
136. Jonathon Cooper - EDGE - Ohio State
144. Dez Fitzpatrick - WR - Louisville
176. Kary Vincent Jr. - CB - LSU
180. Shaka Toney - EDGE - Penn State
252. CJ Verdell - RB - Oregon

Bowser 02-25-2021 07:00 PM

That looks very Veach-like, but I shouldn't have taken two EDGE guys with who we have now.

htismaqe 02-25-2021 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15564564)
That looks very Veach-like, but I shouldn't have taken two EDGE guys with who we have now.

Those are depth guys and we need a lot of depth at DE.

Dull Tools 02-26-2021 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15564564)
That looks very Veach-like, but I shouldn't have taken two EDGE guys with who we have now.

Don't think there is anything wrong with having a starter and a developmental game.

el borracho 02-26-2021 07:37 PM

Okay, Burt, make it happen...

31. Kadarius Toney WR
63. Chatarius Atwell WR
94. Ar'Darius Washington S
136. Janarius Robinson DE
144. Rodarius Williams CB
176. Darius Stills DT
180. Sadarius Hutcherson OL

The Franchise 02-26-2021 07:53 PM

31.

Jalen Mayfield
OT Michigan
KC
63.

Hamsah Nasirildeen
S Florida State
KC
94.

Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater
KC
144.

Cade Johnson
WR South Dakota State
KC
146.

Daelin Hayes
EDGE Notre Dame
trade icon
KC
169.

Jamin Davis
LB Kentucky
trade icon
KC
176.

Anthony Schwartz
WR Auburn
KC
180.

Malcolm Koonce
EDGE Buffalo

el borracho 02-26-2021 09:12 PM

Big boy draft tonight:

31. Daviyon Nixon DT
64. Creed Humphrey C
94. Walker Little OT
136. Rodarius Williams CB
144. Cameron Sample DE
176. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR
180. Darrick Forest S

el borracho 02-26-2021 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15565804)
31. Jalen Mayfield
OT Michigan

Wait, I thought you were opposed to Mayfield at LT. Where are you going to play Mayfield now that it appears Schwartz will return?

The Franchise 02-26-2021 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15565868)
Wait, I thought you were opposed to Mayfield at LT. Where are you going to play Mayfield now that it appears Schwartz will return?

I’m drafting him under the assumption that the people who say he’s a LT, are right.

el borracho 02-26-2021 09:38 PM

In that case, I really like your draft. Fixed the Oline with picks in the 1st and 3rd; picked up two WRs and two Edge.

el borracho 02-26-2021 10:41 PM

I can't stop, lol:

31. Christian Barmore DT
63. Josh Myers C
94. Walker Little OT
136. Seth Williams WR
144. Josh Imatorbhebhe
176. Chris Evans RB
180. Nick Eubanks TE

el borracho 02-27-2021 11:14 AM

I'm probably an idiot for thinking it, but...

Is there any sense in thinking Trey Smith could move back to LT in the NFL? He was highly recruited as a LT coming out of high school. He was excellent as a LT in his first years at Tennessee. He was moved to G because he missed time with medical concerns. Could he slide back to his old position in the NFL?

kccrow 02-27-2021 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15566156)
I'm probably an idiot for thinking it, but...

Is there any sense in thinking Trey Smith could move back to LT in the NFL? He was highly recruited as a LT coming out of high school. He was excellent as a LT in his first years at Tennessee. He was moved to G because he missed time with medical concerns. Could he slide back to his old position in the NFL?

No. He doesn't have the lateral agility and foot speed to play the edge in the NFL. Not a chance.

I've seen talk in some circles as a 1st rounder as a guard but I don't think that's a thing for him. If not for the blood clot issue, maybe. Day 2 somewhere, but I'm not so sure he's that great of a fit for a zone scheme. More of a power scheme player to me.

The Franchise 02-27-2021 08:54 PM

31.

Gregory Rousseau
EDGE,
63.

James Hudson
OT,
94.

Hamsah Nasirildeen
S,
136.

Seth Williams
WR,
144.

Jonathon Cooper
EDGE,
176.

Cade Johnson
WR,
180.

Jack Anderson
IOL,
252.

Robert Rochell
CB,

kccrow 02-27-2021 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15566601)
31.

Gregory Rousseau
EDGE,
63.

James Hudson
OT,
94.

Hamsah Nasirildeen
S,
136.

Seth Williams
WR,
144.

Jonathon Cooper
EDGE,
176.

Cade Johnson
WR,
180.

Jack Anderson
IOL,
252.

Robert Rochell
CB,

I'd be pretty happy with this.

Even if Rochell is slated to be a 3rd round pick.

Dante84 02-27-2021 09:01 PM

I just did Profootballnetwork’s mock draft and their setup is more fun than TDN’s, with the inbound trade options. Plus, it’s kind of cool to get another set of player rankings and write ups.

@Direckshun, after you do 100 TDN mocks, do 100 PFN mocks and let’s see who we have the best odds of getting :D

Dante84 02-27-2021 09:16 PM

Like, look at what I just did in the first four rounds when accepting a trade back in round 1:

41.
Jaelan Phillips
EDGE Miami (FL)

63.
Pat Freiermuth
TE Penn State

88.
Tylan Wallace
WR Oklahoma State

94.
Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater

136.
Shi Smith
WR South Carolina

144.
Chuba Hubbard
RB Oklahoma State


Assuming Mitch and Fish come back, and we add in LDT and Niang, our offense would be so nasty.

kccrow 02-27-2021 09:33 PM

I've been thinking about doing some sort of average of 10 or so boards to see where it comes out. Maybe tomorrow or something. The rankings are so all over the place and some players look way out of line on various boards.

el borracho 02-27-2021 10:34 PM

I guess Nixon has fallen out of favor, as he is more commonly available in the late 2nd. Works for me.

31. Jaelan Phillips DE
63. Daviyon Nixon DT
94. Nico Collins WR
136. Drake Jackson OC
144. Tre McKitty TE
176. Israel Mukuamu CB
180. Janarius Robinson DE

JohnnyHammersticks 02-27-2021 11:09 PM

31. Alijah Vera-Tucker IOL, USC
63. Joe Tryon EDGE, Washington
94. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
136. Seth Williams WR, Auburn
144. Talanoa Hufanga S, USC
176. Shaka Toney EDGE, Penn State
180. Justin Hilliard LB, Ohio State
252. Jonathan Adams Jr. WR, Arkansas State

el borracho 02-27-2021 11:31 PM

Last one for tonight- this time with a trade!

31. Christian Darrisaw OT
63. Joe Tryon DE
95. Quinn Meinerz OC
136. Rodarius Williams CB
144. Sage Surrat WR
147. Tre McKitty TE
176. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR

Bowser 02-27-2021 11:34 PM

Offense heavy draft -

31. Alija Vera-Tucker - IOL - USC
63. Brevin Jordan - TE - Miami
94. Dyami Brown - WR - North Carolina
136. Trey Sermon - RB - Ohio State
144. Cordell Volson - OT - North Dakota State
176. Shaka Toney - EDGE - Penn State
180. Reed Blankenship - S - Middle Tenn. State
252. Dax Milne - WR - BYU

Defense heavy -

31. Gregory Rousseau - EDGE - Miami
63. Jay Tufele - IDL - USC
94. Cameron McGrone - LB - Michigan
136. Talanoa Hufanga - S - USC
144. Ambry Thomas - CB - Michigan
176. Javian Hawkins - RB - Louisville
180. Wyatt Hubert - EDGE - Kansas State
252. Tim Jones - WR - Southern Mississippi

mrdad45 02-28-2021 12:25 AM

A couple of recent ones...

* 31. Zaven Collins
 LB,
* 63. Landon Dickerson
 IOL,
* 94. Walker Little
 OT,
* 136. Daelin Hayes
 EDGE,
* 144. Tre' McKitty
 TE,
* 176. Darrick Forrest 
S,
* 180. Shakur Brown 
CB,
* 252. Marquez Stevenson 
WR

* 31. Jalen Mayfield 
OT,
* 63. Dylan Moses
 LB,
* 94. Paulson Adebo 
CB,
* 136. Brady Christensen
 OT,
* 144. Drake Jackson
 IOL,
* 176. Josh Imatorbhebhe
 WR,
* 180. Shaka Toney
 EDGE,
* 252.Marquez Stevenson
 WR

Hoover 02-28-2021 08:25 AM

31. Gregory Rousseau EDGE, Miami
63. Creed Humphrey IOL, Oklahoma
94. Jabril Cox LB, LSU
136. Walker Little OT, Stanford
144. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
176. Shakur Brown CB, Michigan State
180. LaBryan Ray IDL, Alabama
252. Lamont Wade S, Penn State

MahomesMagic 02-28-2021 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15566619)
Like, look at what I just did in the first four rounds when accepting a trade back in round 1:

41.
Jaelan Phillips
EDGE Miami (FL)

63.
Pat Freiermuth
TE Penn State

88.
Tylan Wallace
WR Oklahoma State

94.
Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater

136.
Shi Smith
WR South Carolina

144.
Chuba Hubbard
RB Oklahoma State


Assuming Mitch and Fish come back, and we add in LDT and Niang, our offense would be so nasty.

Really like Freiermuth. Have a feeling he will go not too long after our 1st pick.

The Franchise 02-28-2021 11:16 PM

32.

Alijah Vera-Tucker
OT USC
trade icon
KC
63.

Hamsah Nasirildeen
S Florida State
KC
94.

Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater
KC
95.

Joe Tryon
EDGE Washington
trade icon
KC
136.

Cade Johnson
WR South Dakota State
KC
176.

Jamin Davis
LB Kentucky
KC
180.

Anthony Schwartz
WR Auburn
KC
256.

Matt Bushman
TE BYU

Bowser 02-28-2021 11:24 PM

^ I think that draft would pretty much satisfy everyone, right?

htismaqe 03-01-2021 08:58 AM

Not fond of Vera-Tucker in the first. I think teams will be all too happy to move him inside and think they got good value.

Dante84 03-01-2021 10:33 AM

Hey serious question - have you guys done a mock at Profootballnetwork?

I cant tell if their rankings are off, or what, but I am absolutely crushing each draft I run - there's so much talent on the board each time we pick, which I think is the opposite of the TDN mock drafts.

It's interesting to run them back to back and see how drastic the results are.

The Franchise 03-01-2021 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15567687)
Hey serious question - have you guys done a mock at Profootballnetwork?

I cant tell if their rankings are off, or what, but I am absolutely crushing each draft I run - there's so much talent on the board each time we pick, which I think is the opposite of the TDN mock drafts.

It's interesting to run them back to back and see how drastic the results are.

It’s where some of us have been doing them.

Dante84 03-01-2021 10:43 AM

In the one I just ran, Kyle Pitts was taken twice, once in the 1st, and again in the 3rd, so, that was odd.

kccrow 03-01-2021 11:43 AM

PFN mock I just ran... I'd probably shit myself...

34. Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (traded 31 for 34 & 86)
67. Josh Myers, OC, Ohio State (traded 61 for 67 & 148)
84. Chazz Surratt, LB, North Carolina (traded 86 & 176 for 84)
94. Joe Tryon, DE, Washington
136. Divine Deablo, S, Virginia Tech
144. Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
148. Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State
180. Jamin Davis, LB, Kentucky
189. Nick Eubanks, TE, Michigan (traded 256 & 2022 6th for 189)

kccrow 03-01-2021 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15567712)
In the one I just ran, Kyle Pitts was taken twice, once in the 1st, and again in the 3rd, so, that was odd.

Hmm I've probably ran 50-ish, never saw Pitts last past 15.

MahomesMagic 03-01-2021 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15567812)
PFN mock I just ran... I'd probably shit myself...

34. Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (traded 31 for 34 & 86)
67. Josh Myers, OC, Ohio State (traded 61 for 67 & 148)
84. Chazz Surratt, LB, North Carolina (traded 86 & 176 for 84)
94. Joe Tryon, DE, Washington
136. Divine Deablo, S, Virginia Tech
144. Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
148. Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State
180. Jamin Davis, LB, Kentucky
189. Nick Eubanks, TE, Michigan (traded 256 & 2022 6th for 189)

Toney and Surratt we win the draft. Anything else is gravy.

htismaqe 03-01-2021 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15567812)
PFN mock I just ran... I'd probably shit myself...

34. Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (traded 31 for 34 & 86)
67. Josh Myers, OC, Ohio State (traded 61 for 67 & 148)
84. Chazz Surratt, LB, North Carolina (traded 86 & 176 for 84)
94. Joe Tryon, DE, Washington
136. Divine Deablo, S, Virginia Tech
144. Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
148. Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State
180. Jamin Davis, LB, Kentucky
189. Nick Eubanks, TE, Michigan (traded 256 & 2022 6th for 189)

Jesus, those first 4 picks are like home runs.

Chris Meck 03-01-2021 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15568175)
Jesus, those first 4 picks are like home runs.

The first FIVE picks.

I'd be thrilled.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2021 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15568175)
Jesus, those first 4 picks are like home runs.


Yeah, that would be an amazing start.

MahomesMagic 03-01-2021 06:00 PM

The Surratt kid can play. I love his story too.

QB to linebacker..no wonder he seems to always know where the ball is going!


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duncan_idaho 03-01-2021 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15568349)
The first FIVE picks.

I'd be thrilled.


Yeah. A guy like Diablo or even Tyree Gillespie in the 5th or with the 4th comp pick would be awesome and could step in for Sorenson right away.

Watch Gillespie’s tape against Alabama and Florida.

Kyle Pitts had like 1 catch for 6 yards against Gillespie.

Against Alabama, he had 3-4 “stops” stops of Najee Harris in the hole, (including a few goal line reps that saved TDs), and he also brought down Waddle multiple times in the open field (chasing to sideline/killing angle). And he isn’t a liability dropping into CF, either.

I’m a Mizzou guy, but this isn’t Mizzou homer speaking. He was Mizzou’s best defensive player. Better than Bolton.

Couch-Potato 03-01-2021 07:39 PM

1. 31 WR Kudarius Tony
2. 63 EDGE Carlos Basham
3. 94 TE Hunter Long
4. 136 RB Trey Sermon
5. 144 S James Wiggins
6. 176 C Drake Jackson
7. 180 OT Josh Ball
8. 252 CB Reid

htismaqe 03-01-2021 08:28 PM

I decided to take every trade down offer I could get, just to see what would happen.

Honestly, it didn't turn out badly.

63.
Brevin Jordan
TE Miami (FL)

76.
Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State
trade icon

79.
Josh Myers
OC Ohio State
trade icon

88.
Tylan Wallace
WR Oklahoma State
trade icon

89.
Patrick Jones
EDGE Pitt
trade icon

104.
Joe Tryon
EDGE Washington
trade icon

136.
Trey Hill
OC Georgia

144.
Cade Johnson
WR South Dakota State
trade icon

154.
Shaka Toney
EDGE Penn State
trade icon

167.
Deommodore Lenoir
CB Oregon
trade icon

176.
Janarius Robinson
EDGE Florida State

216.
Justin Hilliard
LB Ohio State
trade icon

The Franchise 03-01-2021 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15567812)
PFN mock I just ran... I'd probably shit myself...

34. Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (traded 31 for 34 & 86)
67. Josh Myers, OC, Ohio State (traded 61 for 67 & 148)
84. Chazz Surratt, LB, North Carolina (traded 86 & 176 for 84)
94. Joe Tryon, DE, Washington
136. Divine Deablo, S, Virginia Tech
144. Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
148. Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State
180. Jamin Davis, LB, Kentucky
189. Nick Eubanks, TE, Michigan (traded 256 & 2022 6th for 189)

I’m not a huge Toney fan but I’d be good with this draft.

htismaqe 03-01-2021 08:39 PM

Man, trading down is so much fun. Check this haul out.

42.
Pat Freiermuth
TE Penn State
trade icon

63.
Terrace Marshall Jr.
WR LSU

78.
Patrick Jones
EDGE Pitt
trade icon

94.
Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater

136.
Cam Sample
DT Tulane

143.
Trey Hill
OC Georgia
trade icon

150.
Shaka Toney
EDGE Penn State
trade icon

176.
Janarius Robinson
EDGE Florida State

233.
K.J. Britt
LB Auburn
trade icon

256.
Olaijah Griffin
CB USC

kccrow 03-01-2021 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15568535)
I decided to take every trade down offer I could get, just to see what would happen.

Honestly, it didn't turn out badly.

63.
Brevin Jordan
TE Miami (FL)

76.
Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State
trade icon

79.
Josh Myers
OC Ohio State
trade icon

88.
Tylan Wallace
WR Oklahoma State
trade icon

89.
Patrick Jones
EDGE Pitt
trade icon

104.
Joe Tryon
EDGE Washington
trade icon

136.
Trey Hill
OC Georgia

144.
Cade Johnson
WR South Dakota State
trade icon

154.
Shaka Toney
EDGE Penn State
trade icon

167.
Deommodore Lenoir
CB Oregon
trade icon

176.
Janarius Robinson
EDGE Florida State

216.
Justin Hilliard
LB Ohio State
trade icon

Would be an incredible haul. That's how I started out thinking in the one I ran with Toney, Myers etc is that I'd trade down once every time it was offered in a round but after a couple rounds and the way the board was falling I'm like holy damn hell hahaha.

mrdad45 03-02-2021 09:10 AM

Covers quite a bit of the needs with some wants...

* 31. Zaven Collins
 LB
* 63. Amon-Ra St. Brown 
WR
* 94. Walker Little
 OT
* 136. Tre' McKitty
 TE
* 144. Shakur Brown
 CB
* 176. Shaka Toney
 EDGE
* 180. Drake Jackson C

* 217. Marquez Stevenson 
WR

htismaqe 03-02-2021 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15568596)
Would be an incredible haul. That's how I started out thinking in the one I ran with Toney, Myers etc is that I'd trade down once every time it was offered in a round but after a couple rounds and the way the board was falling I'm like holy damn hell hahaha.

I really didn't address LB but the offense gets instantly better with Jordan and Wallace and a developmental prospect in Johnson. I also managed to address OT and IOL depth with potential future starters (Jordan could be one as well I guess) and possibly a starting center.

On defense, I got enough edge help to have a healthy competition, have tons of depth, AND replace Frank Clark after 2021 if I want to get that money back.

It wouldn't ever happen but yeah, it turned out nicely.

htismaqe 03-02-2021 09:41 AM

This one I'm following some of the speculation I've seen from various talking heads...calling it a "realistic" draft for now.


31.
Greg Newsome II
CB Northwestern

63.
Patrick Jones
EDGE Pitt

94.
Tommy Tremble
TE Notre Dame

136.
Whop Philyor
WR Indiana

144.
Darius Stills
DT West Virginia

176.
Anthony Schwartz
WR Auburn

180.
Paris Ford
S Pitt

256.
KJ Costello
QB Mississippi St

Bowser 03-02-2021 02:26 PM

I did a draft on "automatic" and let the competer draft based on our team's needs.

31. Zaven Collins - LB - Tulsa
63. Trey Smith - IOL - Tennessee
94. Spencer Brown - OT - Northern Iowa
136. Seth Williams - WR - Auburn
144. Janarius Robinson - EDGE - Florida State
176. Bryce Thompson - CB - Tennessee
180. LaBryan Ray - IDL - Alabama
252. Tony Poljan - TE - Virginia

htismaqe 03-02-2021 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15569306)
I did a draft on "automatic" and let the competer draft based on our team's needs.

31. Zaven Collins - LB - Tulsa
63. Trey Smith - IOL - Tennessee
94. Spencer Brown - OT - Northern Iowa
136. Seth Williams - WR - Auburn
144. Janarius Robinson - EDGE - Florida State
176. Bryce Thompson - CB - Tennessee
180. LaBryan Ray - IDL - Alabama
252. Tony Poljan - TE - Virginia

Looks a lot like many of our own drafts. :D

JohnnyHammersticks 03-02-2021 03:15 PM

Traded 2nd & 3rd to move up in the 1st for Parsons. Traded original 1st for an early 2nd and to pick up a 3rd.

14. Micah Parsons LB, Penn State
35. Kadarius Toney WR, Florida
96. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
136. Ben Cleveland IOL, Georgia
144. Jonathon Cooper EDGE, Ohio State
252. Mustafa Johnson IDL, Colorado

htismaqe 03-02-2021 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 15569399)
Traded 2nd & 3rd to move up in the 1st for Parsons. Traded original 1st for an early 2nd and to pick up a 3rd.

14. Micah Parsons LB, Penn State
35. Kadarius Toney WR, Florida
96. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
136. Ben Cleveland IOL, Georgia
144. Jonathon Cooper EDGE, Ohio State
252. Mustafa Johnson IDL, Colorado

Ouch. Costly.

But still not a bad draft overall.

The Franchise 03-02-2021 03:34 PM

****ed around with trades. Gave up 31 and my first next year to move up to 20. Gave up a 6th in 2022 for a 6th this year.

20.

Christian Darrisaw
OT Virginia Tech
trade icon
KC
63.

Creed Humphrey
OC Oklahoma
KC
94.

Tylan Wallace
WR Oklahoma State
KC
136.

Daelin Hayes
EDGE Notre Dame
KC
144.

Cade Johnson
WR South Dakota State
KC
176.

Janarius Robinson
EDGE Florida State
KC
180.

Tre McKitty
TE Georgia
KC
221.

K.J. Britt
LB Auburn
trade icon
KC
256.

Olaijah Griffin
CB USC

htismaqe 03-02-2021 03:40 PM

Man, I can't trade up. I can offer a king's ransom and they still decline.

htismaqe 03-02-2021 03:44 PM

Finally got an accepted offer. Looks like if we trade up far enough, Parsons would definitely be in play.



16.
Micah Parsons
LB Penn State
trade icon

63.
Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State

106.
Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater
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130.
Cade Johnson
WR South Dakota State
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144.
Chauncey Golston
EDGE Iowa

176.
Jamin Davis
LB Kentucky

180.
Elerson Smith
EDGE Northern Iowa

256.
Lorenzo Neal
DT Purdue

duncan_idaho 03-02-2021 04:49 PM

If they're going to trade up into the top 15, I can't see them doing it for Parsons. It's so expensive.

In general, IMO, it only makes sense for one of the truly elite positions:

QB
WR
DE
OT
CB

There's not much they could do that would make me question their decision, but moving up to take Parsons would.

htismaqe 03-02-2021 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15569571)
If they're going to trade up into the top 15, I can't see them doing it for Parsons. It's so expensive.

In general, IMO, it only makes sense for one of the truly elite positions:

QB
WR
DE
OT
CB

There's not much they could do that would make me question their decision, but moving up to take Parsons would.

The thing is, I traded up to 16 and none of the elite prospects at OT or WR were available. I could have taken someone like Patrick Surtain but other than that, there wasn't much there other than Parsons.

One more reason why I think they're much better off staying put at 31 or even trading down, not up.

The Franchise 03-02-2021 05:59 PM

I traded up to 18 because Paye was still there.

kccrow 03-02-2021 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15569653)
The thing is, I traded up to 16 and none of the elite prospects at OT or WR were available. I could have taken someone like Patrick Surtain but other than that, there wasn't much there other than Parsons.

One more reason why I think they're much better off staying put at 31 or even trading down, not up.

I was reading alot more into this the other night. The argument with trading down lies with the AV model and suggests teams trade down no more than 5 picks and not to trade up. It's kind of interesting, to be honest.

My memory seems to indicate the opposite, but I suppose over all trades in all rounds over 20, 30, 40 years, the AV argument holds. Obviously, more darts = more bullseyes.

It seems like every time a team trades down, especially early, they come out the losers much more often than not.

duncan_idaho 03-03-2021 06:55 AM

My latest, from PFN. I really like this:

36. (Trade down for 36 and 83) Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami.

This assumes I like his medical report. Taking a risk but it just fills what they need right away so we’ll. If his medicals are still worrisome, Ronnie Perkins slides in here.

63. Brevin Jordan, Te, Miami. The Chiefs 12 personnel gets an immediate upgrade here and also gets ramped up in usage in 21 as a result.

83. James Hudson, T, Cincinnati. I start planning for a post-Eric Fisher world and get a high-upside T who may also be able to sub for Eric Fisher from Day 1. I don’t love the idea of moving guys around, but if Fisher comes back strong, Hudson could slide in to LG and upgrade that spot while waiting to take over T full time in 22.

98. (Trade back 2 spots for 98 and 133). Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri. I know, I know. Homer pick. But seeing someone I respect like Brett Kollman gush over him re-affirmed my belief he can be a real NFL star. Gillespie is a strong open field tackler who also has good tape against TEs (held Kyle Pitts to one catch for six yards). He gives KC a lot more juice, speed, and coverage ability in Sorenson’s role.

133. Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas. This is a versatile CB who fits KC’s outside corner profile.

144. Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State. I wait to take my X of the future and get a high-upside guy. Stock is down after a rough 2021 (bad situation) but his size/speed profile is DK Metcalf-lite. He may not start right away, but that’s OK getting him this late. Has the potential to become an elite threat in Years 2+.

256. Kayode Awosika, OL, Buffalo. Just a late-round flyer, but this small-school product has some real physical skill and was a nasty run blocker at T in college. Could be interesting if you put him inside.

All-in-all, I would be excited about this haul. Nice blend of “now” contributors at key spots (DE, S), high upside for the future (WR, OT) and an upgrade at a key supporting position (TE).

In FA, I’d need to handle C (either by retaining Reiter or signing another FA), supplement LB (likely with a SLB bandaid) and WR (someone I can plug at the X for a year while I see how Terry develops) but those are do-able. With Hudson, I likely also want a swing tackle I can roll with in case he isn’t ready to handle LT.

MahomesMagic 03-03-2021 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15570172)
My latest, from PFN. I really like this:

36. (Trade down for 36 and 83) Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami.

This assumes I like his medical report. Taking a risk but it just fills what they need right away so we’ll. If his medicals are still worrisome, Ronnie Perkins slides in here.

63. Brevin Jordan, Te, Miami. The Chiefs 12 personnel gets an immediate upgrade here and also gets ramped up in usage in 21 as a result.

83. James Hudson, T, Cincinnati. I start planning for a post-Eric Fisher world and get a high-upside T who may also be able to sub for Eric Fisher from Day 1. I don’t love the idea of moving guys around, but if Fisher comes back strong, Hudson could slide in to LG and upgrade that spot while waiting to take over T full time in 22.

98. (Trade back 2 spots for 98 and 133). Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri. I know, I know. Homer pick. But seeing someone I respect like Brett Kollman gush over him re-affirmed my belief he can be a real NFL star. Gillespie is a strong open field tackler who also has good tape against TEs (held Kyle Pitts to one catch for six yards). He gives KC a lot more juice, speed, and coverage ability in Sorenson’s role.

133. Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas. This is a versatile CB who fits KC’s outside corner profile.

144. Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State. I wait to take my X of the future and get a high-upside guy. Stock is down after a rough 2021 (bad situation) but his size/speed profile is DK Metcalf-lite. He may not start right away, but that’s OK getting him this late. Has the potential to become an elite threat in Years 2+.

256. Kayode Awosika, OL, Buffalo. Just a late-round flyer, but this small-school product has some real physical skill and was a nasty run blocker at T in college. Could be interesting if you put him inside.

All-in-all, I would be excited about this haul. Nice blend of “now” contributors at key spots (DE, S), high upside for the future (WR, OT) and an upgrade at a key supporting position (TE).

In FA, I’d need to handle C (either by retaining Reiter or signing another FA), supplement LB (likely with a SLB bandaid) and WR (someone I can plug at the X for a year while I see how Terry develops) but those are do-able. With Hudson, I likely also want a swing tackle I can roll with in case he isn’t ready to handle LT.

With you on Terry. I like him as a guy to target later in the draft. Does more for me than Dyami who people are pushing as high as round 2.

staylor26 03-03-2021 01:58 PM

I absolutely LOVE Terry on day 3.

Like Robinson and other FSU prospects, he’s been the victim of playing on a really bad and borderline dysfunctional team.

el borracho 03-03-2021 02:47 PM

Trade downs!!

51. Daviyon Nixon
63. Josh Myers
74. D'ante Smith
94. Kenny Yeboah
136. Rodarius Williams
144. Sage Surratt
164. Janarius Robinson
176. Josh Imatorbhebhe
180. Israel Mukuamu

MahomesMagic 03-03-2021 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15570593)
I absolutely LOVE Terry on day 3.

Like Robinson and other FSU prospects, he’s been the victim of playing on a really bad and borderline dysfunctional team.

Give me Terry and Darden if we go OL or DL early.


Then KC has Tyreek Hill, Terry, Darden, and Mecole plus Kelce.

That's enough to mess people up real bad.

staylor26 03-03-2021 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15570727)
Give me Terry and Darden if we go OL or DL early.


Then KC has Tyreek Hill, Terry, Darden, and Mecole plus Kelce.

That's enough to mess people up real bad.

Yea I’d love to double down if we don’t get a WR early.

If we’re going to wait till day 3 on a WR, it would be smart to hedge our bets with an X and a slot guy, and if we hit on both, ohhhh boy.

The Franchise 03-03-2021 03:29 PM

This isn’t Chiefs related but I’m doing another mock draft and the Jets gave up the following to go from 2 to 1 for Lawrence.

#2, #23, #34, a 2022 1st and a 2022 2nd.

duncan_idaho 03-03-2021 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15570744)
This isn’t Chiefs related but I’m doing another mock draft and the Jets gave up the following to go from 2 to 1 for Lawrence.

#2, #23, #34, a 2022 1st and a 2022 2nd.

It's worth it to get a franchise QB.

But I think the Jets may have a chance to get the better player at 2.

The Franchise 03-03-2021 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15570759)
It's worth it to get a franchise QB.

But I think the Jets may have a chance to get the better player at 2.

FWIW....Chris Simms has released his QB list and he has Zach Wilson at #1 and Lawrence at #2.

duncan_idaho 03-03-2021 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15570736)
Yea I’d love to double down if we don’t get a WR early.

If we’re going to wait till day 3 on a WR, it would be smart to hedge our bets with an X and a slot guy, and if we hit on both, ohhhh boy.

SDSU's Cade Johnson also would fit for the slot.

I think he's less explosive but a lot more polished and dangerous as a slot guy than Darden.


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