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I think Cosmi is gonna be there around our pick if we want him. I would love Jenkins but as I said a few days ago, I think he’s going to the Steeelers. Not sure he’ll be available to us
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Sewell has shorter arms, this class is so freaking weird.
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I think they want Teven Jenkins and I think Veach is going to try to get that guy if he falls into the early 20’s
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">No <a href="https://t.co/9I7n5DO3hn">https://t.co/9I7n5DO3hn</a></p>— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1379113445564551169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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The way passing offenses work nowadays - plus the fact that teams move their pass rushers all over to get mismatches - I don't think there's really that much difference at all. Especially when you have Mahomes tip toeing all over the field. |
We will also be having OTA’s per Goodell so that will play a big role for an OT getting up to speed.
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If we were to take Jenkins at #31, I'd say it's an even bet that Niang plays LT.
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Or maybe they've already penciled in Niang at LT, which is why Remmers' agent said he was the Week 1 starter. To be quite honest, I'm not sure I see the difference between drafting Jenkins at #31, only to switch him over to the left side, and starting Niang at LT. I mean, if they're going to move a guy, why not move the guy that's spent the last year training per the Chiefs instruction? |
If they only need a RT then there isn’t a need to take one in the first round unless one falls.
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If Jenkins is there at #31, I wouldn't balk at grabbing him, and I'd expect they move one or the other of him or Niang to LT. Niang seems more nimble to me, but that's just going off of memory. And just my fixation on Niang looking like Roaf in his build and movements. but whatever they do I'm sure there's a plan that will be sufficient at least. |
If they actually plan to move Niang to the LT position, Stone Forsyth at #63 would not only be great value, but the Chiefs would have their tackle positions solidified for the next 4 years.
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It would be a massive risk for this team to covert a RT rookie into a LT and start him straight away...a very big risk. Jenkins is good but is he really a can't miss talent? I'm not sure tbh.
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Fisher hasn't played 16 games plus the postseason in a few years either, and chances he's near 100% in September are no sure bet. Schwartz is no guarantee to not have continuing problems; back problems with the big boys is usually not something that gets better. Okung hasn't played a full season in awhile. Williams played a full season last year, but hadn't in awhile. I mean all of the options carried risks. It might be why they signed veteran OG's and a C. IF you were going to roll with essentially rookies at OT, you'd want crusty vets next to them. I'm not saying I think I'm for that, I'm just saying IF they were going to, then they've built the interior the right way to help. |
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Walker Little is the player I am interested in. Where do you all think he will be picked? By all accounts he has the highest upside of all the tackles in the draft but hasn't played since 2018.
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Is it just me or does it seem like everybody went from “Cosmi isn’t making it to 31” to forgetting about him all together?
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His arms are literally just under the 33.5 inch mark. It’s not that serious. If the only think keeping you from drafting him is less than half and inch, you’re overthinking it. |
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There’s no telling how long they had been working out before that. He was working with this guy the entire season. I highly doubt he’s out of shape. |
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Has this guy never seen a T in street clothes before?
Skinny legs/ankles is what you want to pair with the massive thighs and above. Gives you the best blend of mass and quickness of foot. |
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Posted in another thread, but reposting here as well. Dane Brugler’s new/final OT rankings (top 12):
1st 1. PENEI SEWELL 2. RASHAWN SLATER 3. CHRISTIAN DARRISAW 1st-2nd 4. TEVEN JENKINS 2nd 5. SAMUEL COSMI 6. LIAM EICHENBERG 2nd-3rd 7. WALKER LITTLE 8. BRADY CHRISTENSEN 9. DILLON RADUNZ 3rd 10. JAMES HUDSON 11. D’ANTE SMITH 12. STONE FORSYTHE |
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This idea that somebody is a RT and not a LT based on...what exactly? He might well stay at RT. Or we might move him over. We don't know. But there's zero physical reason why we COULDN'T move him over. He has all of the physical attributes and agility skills. Some people are 'RIGHT TACKLES' because they lack something in the skillset department that you would typically want in a LEFT TACKLE. And some people just happened to play RIGHT TACKLE because the team already had a LEFT TACKLE and why move them? Niang was in that spot in college. There's no reason he couldn't play left. Dude showed out against Chase Young AND Nick Bosa. I think he'd be fine. |
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We don't know what the plan is. Maybe it's Niang at LT. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's draft a kid at #31, or maybe it's #63. Maybe it's pair that with a stop-gap short term guy like Okung. Probably, this is the plan. Maybe it's trade for a LT from another NFL roster. Who knows? We don't. Veach knows, and he's not talking. Niang was a first round talent that fell in the draft because of a hip injury. I expect he's in the plans at one side or the other. I wouldn't expect anything to just be handed to a rookie right out of the gate. |
I disputed dane’s post below that penciling in Niang is the plan. That’s a stupid plan and taking the position that maybe we should Pencil Niang at lt is stupid. And also noting that he’s receiving instruction for presumably being lt when he’s clearly winded in a weak workout and is only working the right side is stupid. I know y’all love Dane but penciling Niang at the premier position of lt and protecting possibly the best qb ever is a dumb suggestion. Several people flamed direckshun for saying that offseason failed bc we didn’t address wr, de or LT yet but Dane gets to say this? Maybe he gets special treatment bc he’s a mod now?
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You're a jack-ass. It's ****ing April. Nothing has been failed. If it's September and Mike ****ing Remmers is starting at Left Tackle, then we can talk about failing the offseason. |
Dane isn’t a mod. ROFL. That was an April Fools joke.
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You know who knows what the Chiefs plan is for the tackle positions?
Brett Veach, Andy Reid, and Andy Heck. That's it. That's who knows. All of the rest of us, including you are speculating. If Niang has been working out, and the team is comfortable with him at Left Tackle, then it's not stupid. We don't know that they HAVE been, and we don't know that they HAVEN'T been. We have no idea, and they're not telling. I'm not saying (and Dane wasn't either) that Niang IS THE PLAN at LT. We're speculating what if? Because it's April, and we're bored. I doubt it, myself. That doesn't seem like an Andy Reid move. I think something more like drafting a Radunz, Little or Brown at #63 and signing an Okung/Villanueva type to man it for awhile until the kid is ready seems more likely with Niang fighting it out with Remmers for RT. That seems like a workable situation and good depth. As for RT vs. LT, in this offense, it's the same skillset. In some offenses, you can get away with a road grader type at RT, but not with our deep drops and downfield routes. Schwartz tweeted as much just this week when asked. So a guy who's played RT but has the measurables and agility to play LT in any offense can play either spot, it's really the same skillset, just mirrored. RT's have to play head up on just about as many premier pass rushers as LT's anymore. And Niang shut down Chase Young and Nick Bosa in college. So no, it's not a stupid idea. But we don't know, and you don't either. |
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Some kids may be right tackles only, but if so they wouldn't really be a good option for us in KC even to play right tackle. Just because someone played right tackle in college doesn't mean they couldn't play left tackle, it just means that another player was already there and doing a decent job so they left it alone. It doesn't mean they couldn't have done it. If a guy has the measurables and the agility, then it's really just technique. Now, some of the right tackles in certain offenses won't work in KC because they can't hang with the Von Millers and Bosa's and what have you in pass protection in this offense. But the Left vs. right thing I think is looking at it all wrong. |
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In your mind, people play RIGHT tackle because they're not good enough to play LEFT tackle. That may be true in some cases, but not necessarily. There are any number of factors that led to kids playing one side or the other in college. There are lots of kids that played LEFT tackle in college that don't have the physical attributes to handle that spot in the NFL. Short arms, poor agility, any of those issues will mean they aren't going to be able to play LEFT TACKLE in the NFL. They may be GUARDS, or in some offenses may be able to play RIGHT tackle. In SOME OFFENSES. Take Orlando Brown Jr. 3rd round pick, played RIGHT tackle at a high level. Due to injury, moved over and played well at LEFT tackle last season. Now he wants to remain at LEFT tackle because they get paid more. He's not a good fit for LEFT tackle in KC's offense in my and many others' opinion as he's not particularly agile. In a balanced or run-first team, he's fine. He'd be good in Tennessee, for example. In KC, because of the deep drops and downfield routes, we need superior pass protectors at both spots, which reguires length, and long arms, and good lateral agility. The era in which Lawrence Taylor changed the way people thought about the offensive line is way, way in the past. Many if not most teams now have multiple dangerous pass rushers, coming from both edges and sometimes even inside (see Chris Jones). So the 'blind side' is important yes, but so is the right side. Now take Lucas Niang (who I doubt is the penciled in starter at Left tackle, but I expect is in a competition with Remmers for the Right tackle job). Niang played RIGHT tackle in college, because there was another player at LEFT tackle already, and then they chose to leave him there for continuity's sake. He was in the conversation to be the first lineman taken in that draft and might've been had he not injured his hip. Not because he wasn't GOOD ENOUGH to play left tackle. He shut down Chase Young and Nick Bosa. This is a perception problem that is in your head, but is not the reality. If you can give me ONE intelligent reason why Niang can't play Left Tackle, I'm all ears. 'he played RT in college' is not an intelligent reason. Give me ONE reason that he would be unable to play left tackle. |
Because he has skinny calves, duh.
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When Mahomes rolls out to his left, looking downfield, the RIGHT side of the line is his "blind" side.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two guys I was way too low on...<br><br>Notre Dame OG Aaron Banks<br>Florida OT Stone Forsythe<br><br>Think both are Round 2 players.</p>— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1380177734807269380?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I’m really starting to get the feeling that Veach is going to take a position other than OT in the first. Then he’ll either trade up or get his guy at #63.
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Other than linebacker take whoever if you like a 2nd round tackle
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Check this one out. :)
31. Kelvin Joseph CB Kentucky 63. Dyami Brown WR North Carolina 94. Brady Christensen OT BYU 136. Anthony Schwartz WR Auburn 144. Divine Deablo S Virginia Tech 175. Chauncey Golston EDGE Iowa 181. Landon Young OT Kentucky 207. Simi Fehoko WR Stanford |
One thing that would give me pause about a LB at #31-
Where's he going to play? You've got Gay, who you took in the 2nd last year that you want on the field. You've got Hitchens who is your defensive QB. He's not coming off of the field for a rookie, there's just no way. Most of the time you're in nickel, with Sorensen playing that hybrid LB/S role. What are you going to do with that first round LB 70% of the time? Unless that LB has a REALLY unique skillset like JOK I don't see it. And I doubt he'll be around at #31. I'd like a Sorensen upgrade, but there are kids later in the draft like Deablo that could be that. |
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CEH only did it because Williams opted out. I’m not sure a 1st round rookie is coming in and taking a majority of the snaps right away. |
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It was also confirmed that Veach loved Rock Ya-Sin and probably would have taken him but we traded for Clark |
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Uh oh. Not good Eichenberg’s stock
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame OT Liam Eichenberg, one of the draft’s top O-linemen, is among the Fighting Irish players who isn't in Indy for medical evals after testing positive for COVID-19 after his Pro Day, sources say. DE Ade Ogundeji & OL Aaron Banks also tested positive & aren't in Indy.</p>— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1380176100840644608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is Walker Little's Pro Day results:<br><br>OT Walker Little<br>ht: 6073<br>wt: 313<br>hand: 10 1/8<br>arm: 33 3/4<br>wingspan: 81 3/4<br>forty: 5.29/5.35 (1.82/1.83)<br>vertical: 29.5<br>Broad: 9-3 (111")<br>ss: 4.58<br>3cone: 7.43<br>bench: 24x<br><br>Here is the best/highest paid OT in the NFL's combine <a href="https://t.co/xeOoPZWq5O">pic.twitter.com/xeOoPZWq5O</a></p>— Matt Lane (@ChiefinCarolina) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefinCarolina/status/1372714907670560770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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