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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2021 04:17 PM

A underrated person in the KC Chiefs organization is Brandt Tillis

KChiefs1 03-15-2021 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15586189)
Gotta spread the credit around.

Clark Hunt writing checks that are breaking necks! Without him signing those big signing bonuses, we wouldn’t have the cap flexibility year in and year out to bring in top talents with minimal initial cap hits.

We probably still have come to 30m in cap space, right?


How anyone would bitch about Clark Hunt is beyond me.

Dante84 03-15-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15586189)
Gotta spread the credit around.

Clark Hunt writing checks that are breaking necks! Without him signing those big signing bonuses, we wouldn’t have the cap flexibility year in and year out to bring in top talents with minimal initial cap hits.

We probably still have come to 30m in cap space, right?

I saw one report say we had 38 this morning, so that would have us at 33.5 available.

And keep in mind, we still (apparently) haven't adjusted Kelce, or extended Tyrann yet. Or Hill.

We got ammo if we need it.

-King- 03-15-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15586199)
How anyone would bitch about Clark Hunt is beyond me.

He only cares about soccer!!

ChiefsCountry 03-15-2021 04:19 PM

Mahomes can nail receivers falling on his dick parallel to the ground, can only imagine how dangerous he would be in a clean pocket.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15586199)
How anyone would bitch about Clark Hunt is beyond me.

Who has bitched about Clark?? Dude is one of the best owners in all of sports

Easy 6 03-15-2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15585789)
Entirely possible the Chiefs felt they wouldn't be able to pry Williams away from the 49ers and quickly pivoted to Thuney.

Gotta trust Veach whatever it is and it's exciting to have a great player on the interior OL for the first time in forever.

Its absolutely great to snatch up a legit All Pro, but dang man we're still needing that blindside bodyguard...

RealSNR 03-15-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15586205)
Mahomes can nail receivers falling on his dick parallel to the ground, can only imagine how dangerous he would be in a clean pocket.

His "game knowledge" or whatever you want to call it is going to skyrocket this year. From an already high level.

He's going to learn how to use CEH and the other RBs in the passing game more effectively now.

In addition to all of the other badass shit he was doing before.

It's game ****ing over, NFL. Thanks for playing.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15586221)
Its absolutely great to snatch up a legit All Pro, but dang man we're still needing that blindside bodyguard...

I'm a big TwistedChief fan but he's wrong on this one.

The timing of the Thuney signing suggest he was their target from the beginning. He wasn't plan B or anything of the sort.

They're still working on the tackle position but make no mistake, the timing of this deal suggest Thuney was their prime target all along.

In58men 03-15-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15586204)
He only cares about soccer!!

At one point, it most certainly felt like that lol.

Easy 6 03-15-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586227)
I'm a big TwistedChief fan but he's wrong on this one.

The timing of the Thuney signing suggest he was their target from the beginning. He wasn't plan B or anything of the sort.

They're still working on the tackle position but make no mistake, the timing of this deal suggest Thuney was their prime target all along.

Yeah I'm still catching up on this thread, the way this deal is structured is letting me breathe a little easier in regard to cap room for a LT called Silverdick

Don't get me wrong, not complaining about this guy at all... just wasn't the move I was expecting, but if Veach and co wanted to get LG locked down first who am I to judge

Chris Meck 03-15-2021 04:34 PM

It makes so much sense to empty the piggybank this offseason when everyone is cash strapped, but the cap is going to go up a bunch the next couple of years.

Chris Meck 03-15-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586227)
I'm a big TwistedChief fan but he's wrong on this one.

The timing of the Thuney signing suggest he was their target from the beginning. He wasn't plan B or anything of the sort.

They're still working on the tackle position but make no mistake, the timing of this deal suggest Thuney was their prime target all along.

I think they can walk and chew gum. I think they had two targets, and they've gotten one so far.

the other is very much still on the board.

MahomesMagic 03-15-2021 04:37 PM

Veach is hungry.

Chris Meck 03-15-2021 04:40 PM

Jan. 2019-damn this defense sucks. Veach: **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this coordinator, **** this staff, give me this guy, this guy, this guy, and these coaches.

Feb. 2020-that went pretty great. Let's bring all these mother****ers back together.


Feb. 2021-Veach: What the **** is this offensive line bullshit? **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this guy, give me this mother****er, and that mother****er, and let's draft a couple more mother****ers so that shit doesn't happen again.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15586256)
Jan. 2019-damn this defense sucks. Veach: **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this coordinator, **** this staff, give me this guy, this guy, this guy, and these coaches.

Feb. 2020-that went pretty great. Let's bring all these mother****ers back together.


Feb. 2021-Veach: What the **** is this offensive line bullshit? **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this guy, give me this mother****er, and that mother****er, and let's draft a couple more mother****ers so that shit doesn't happen again.

I'm glad y'all are coming around on this LMAO

ThaVirus 03-15-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15586102)
Seriously guys. The wailing and gnashing of teeth to Schefter's tweet in the OP is ****ing priceless LMAO

I've never noticed how ****ing stupid the average fan is about the cap.

I've seen hundreds of comments about how we had to let go of Fish and Schwartz because Mahomes demanded the highest contract in NFL history.

I've seen comments of people saying "Patty Mahomes about to fall short a couple hundred" after he restructured his contract.

I've seen comments about how selfless Brady is for restructuring his contract and how Mahomes is just doing it now because Brady did.

I mean.. people are just insanely ****ing dumb.

TEX 03-15-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15586241)
Yeah I'm still catching up on this thread, the way this deal is structured is letting me breathe a little easier in regard to cap room for a LT called Silverdick

Don't get me wrong, not complaining about this guy at all... just wasn't the move I was expecting, but if Veach and co wanted to get LG locked down first who am I to judge

Especially since they have had a problem at LG almost the whole time Reid has been in KC.

In58men 03-15-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15586250)
Veach is horny.

FYP

Easy 6 03-15-2021 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15586256)
Jan. 2019-damn this defense sucks. Veach: **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this coordinator, **** this staff, give me this guy, this guy, this guy, and these coaches.

Feb. 2020-that went pretty great. Let's bring all these mother****ers back together.


Feb. 2021-Veach: What the **** is this offensive line bullshit? **** this guy, **** this guy, **** this guy, give me this mother****er, and that mother****er, and let's draft a couple more mother****ers so that shit doesn't happen again.

LMAO :thumb:

eDave 03-15-2021 04:48 PM

Mahomes gives better gifts than that **** Tom Brady.

RunKC 03-15-2021 04:51 PM

Brandt Tilis guys

You need to give that man a ton of credit. He’s been amazing working our cap

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15586281)
Brandt Tilis guys

You need to give that man a ton of credit. He’s been amazing working our cap

Agreed! I’m afraid some front office will steal him from us. Clark needs to give this guy a raise

CasselGotPeedOn 03-15-2021 04:57 PM

It's gonna be so awesome to watch what CEH can do when there aren't 2 guys in the backfield when he receives the hand off...

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2021 04:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">�� Ohk Cut up den ...</p>&mdash; GLYDE (@Clydro_22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22/status/1371593150163161090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chief Northman 03-15-2021 05:00 PM

Wut

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15586305)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">�� Ohk Cut up den ...</p>&mdash; GLYDE (@Clydro_22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22/status/1371593150163161090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nani

Buehler445 03-15-2021 05:12 PM

Is there a translator for that?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2021 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15586336)
Is there a translator for that?

We’re signing Trent Williams

staylor26 03-15-2021 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15586336)
Is there a translator for that?

Translation: LFG!!!

Chief Northman 03-15-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15586339)
We’re signing Trent Williams

Says who? He’s probably commenting on Thuney

caseyl4200 03-15-2021 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15586305)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">�� Ohk Cut up den ...</p>&mdash; GLYDE (@Clydro_22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22/status/1371593150163161090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cak'n partna

Chiefshrink 03-15-2021 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15585782)
I’m just ready to see what they do at LT then I’ll get very excited about this signing.

Agreed. This is a great start but that LT needs addressed. Thuney had enough of that CAM crap, because once a multi-SB winning LG always a SB winning guard.:thumb:

Chiefshrink 03-15-2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15586205)
Mahomes can nail receivers falling on his dick parallel to the ground, can only imagine how dangerous he would be in a clean pocket.

I agree thoroughly because he has never had a clean pocket EVER WITHOUT some sort of worry IMHO. He may have a little 'pocket PTSD' in the beginning but once he feels he can truly trust the guys upfront to your point "LOOKOUT" !!!:clap:

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2021 05:37 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jets have not been asleep behind the wheel today. <br><br>My understanding is that the Jets and Patriots were the other two teams that made a push and had strong interest in Pro Bowl guard Joe Thuney. <br><br>But the Chiefs blitzed Thuney with an offer that he could not refuse fast.</p>&mdash; Manish Mehta (@MMehtaSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371605215070334979?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Coochie liquor 03-15-2021 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15586204)
He only cares about soccer!!

And Butts in the seats.

srvy 03-15-2021 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15586336)
Is there a translator for that?

It means now he can cut up inside now. I think.

Monticore 03-15-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15586275)
Mahomes gives better gifts than that **** Tom Brady.

Brady posted his phone number so fans can text him , once Pat finds out we will all get keys to his house.

Coochie liquor 03-15-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 15586388)
It means now he can cut up inside now. I think.

I just ran it through my translator from Cajun to English. It mean WBF!!

gonefishin53 03-15-2021 05:55 PM

A trade for Dillard can't be done until the start of the league season. Might explain the quick signing of Thuney instead of a free agent LT.

staylor26 03-15-2021 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin53 (Post 15586423)
A trade for Dillard can't be done until the start of the league season. Might explain the quick signing of Thuney instead of a free agent LT.

A trade can be agreed to it just can’t be official just like all of today’s signings.

OnTheWarpath15 03-15-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15586381)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jets have not been asleep behind the wheel today. <br><br>My understanding is that the Jets and Patriots were the other two teams that made a push and had strong interest in Pro Bowl guard Joe Thuney. <br><br>But the Chiefs blitzed Thuney with an offer that he could not refuse fast.</p>&mdash; Manish Mehta (@MMehtaSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371605215070334979?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, and that offer was a chance at another fistful of Championship rings.

HC_Chief 03-15-2021 06:36 PM

<font size=60>L F G!!!!!!</FONT>
w00t w00t!

htismaqe 03-15-2021 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15586381)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jets have not been asleep behind the wheel today. <br><br>My understanding is that the Jets and Patriots were the other two teams that made a push and had strong interest in Pro Bowl guard Joe Thuney. <br><br>But the Chiefs blitzed Thuney with an offer that he could not refuse fast.</p>&mdash; Manish Mehta (@MMehtaSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371605215070334979?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pretty much confirms that they wanted Thuney the minute he was available.

kccrow 03-15-2021 07:37 PM

Arguably the 2nd best OG in the NFL behind Nelson with Thuney being more athletic but less powerful. I couldn't be more thrilled.

Certainly brings into question signing Williams, which would be quite the feat at this point, but if they do that opens up a ton in the draft to just go get playmakers.

The Franchise 03-15-2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15586613)
Arguably the 2nd best OG in the NFL behind Nelson with Thuney being more athletic but less powerful. I couldn't be more thrilled.

Certainly brings into question signing Williams, which would be quite the feat at this point, but if they do that opens up a ton in the draft to just go get playmakers.

Thuney’s cap hit this year is $4.5 million.

kccrow 03-15-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15586640)
Thuney’s cap hit this year is $4.5 million.

This year, then it's 18-19 per. Williams is going to want more than a 1-year contract. I know, kick the can and all that, plus you got a way out of the Clark deal next year with some space but it's still going to be a lot of money.

TribalElder 03-15-2021 08:58 PM

update op

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The Franchise 03-15-2021 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15586756)
This year, then it's 18-19 per. Williams is going to want more than a 1-year contract. I know, kick the can and all that, plus you got a way out of the Clark deal next year with some space but it's still going to be a lot of money.

They can convert Mahomes roster bonus again if they want to.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-15-2021 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 15586095)
This seems like an excellent signing. Maybe a slight overpayment but it instantly improves the interior OL. If we can somehow get Trent Williams, damn that would be sick. If there is anyone who can pull it off, it's Veach.

$16 mill is not an overpayment... especially where the Cap is headed. We got a top 5 player at his position.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 15586772)
$16 mill is not an overpayment... especially where the Cap is headed. We got a top 5 player at his position.

Top 3. And arguably the best pass blocking guard in the league.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-15-2021 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586774)
Top 3. And arguably the best pass blocking guard in the league.

I think top 2 actually... He isn't being overpaid if he's stays healthy and taking snaps...

htismaqe 03-15-2021 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 15586780)
I think top 2 actually... He isn't being overpaid if he's stays healthy and taking snaps...

Yep.

The dude has never missed a game in his career and in the last 3 years has given up like 3 sacks and only 3 penalties.

It's a HUGE upgrade.

RunKC 03-15-2021 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586782)
Yep.

The dude has never missed a game in his career and in the last 3 years has given up like 3 sacks and only 3 penalties.

It's a HUGE upgrade.

He’s pretty much the Mitchell Schwartz of G’s which is gonna be be ****ing awesome for us

mkp785 03-15-2021 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15586767)
update op

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I bet he gets at least 2 all pros over the course of these next 5 years. This is probably the best lineman Mahomes has ever had block for him.

BWillie 03-15-2021 09:26 PM

Can he umm play guard?

kccrow 03-15-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586782)
Yep.

The dude has never missed a game in his career and in the last 3 years has given up like 3 sacks and only 3 penalties.

It's a HUGE upgrade.

I don't even know that you can upgrade past Thuney, seriously... at least in this blocking scheme and offense. He's Kobe Beef A5. Everyone else is just Grade A Prime Black Angus at most.

GloryDayz 03-15-2021 09:30 PM

This seems like a very wise move for us.

smithandrew051 03-15-2021 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 15586801)
I bet he gets at least 2 all pros over the course of these next 5 years. This is probably the best lineman Mahomes has ever had block for him.

Schwartz was pretty incredible at RT the two years prior to this year. That level of play is hard to beat.

Thuney is a great pickup though. Very encouraging move.

chiefzilla1501 03-15-2021 09:38 PM

Begs the question, what is most important for a Patrick mahomes OL? We don't have a great record without Eric fisher but is that because fishers backups have been atrocious? Seems to me our biggest weakness has been complete inability to run the ball in short yardage and when the pocket pushes into mahomes especially considering how much he drifts. Not to mention all the tipped passes this year. So I like focusing on the interior.

Now that we have a really solid interior how important are the tackles? Are they must haves or can we settle for decent?

staylor26 03-15-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15586831)
Begs the question, what is most important for a Patrick mahomes OL? We don't have a great record without Eric fisher but is that because fishers backups have been atrocious? Seems to me our biggest weakness has been complete inability to run the ball in short yardage and when the pocket pushes into mahomes especially considering how much he drifts. Not to mention all the tipped passes this year. So I like focusing on the interior.

Now that we have a really solid interior how important are the tackles? Are they must haves or can we settle for decent?

Reid still prefers to leave his T’s out on an island, so I still believe you need above average play at both spots.

kccrow 03-15-2021 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15586831)
Begs the question, what is most important for a Patrick mahomes OL? We don't have a great record without Eric fisher but is that because fishers backups have been atrocious? Seems to me our biggest weakness has been complete inability to run the ball in short yardage and when the pocket pushes into mahomes especially considering how much he drifts. Not to mention all the tipped passes this year. So I like focusing on the interior.

Now that we have a really solid interior how important are the tackles? Are they must haves or can we settle for decent?

I'm going to side with staylor and say "must haves."

Now, I do think Niang is a sleeping giant at RT. I don't think people realize just how good he was before that hip injury in college.

That basically leaves LT and a solid swing tackle. If they get a good FA LT, they can take a guy like Walker Little to develop in round 3 and he can be a swing guy for a couple of years.

If they can't get a top-shelf LT in FA, then I think you look to get a good swing guy there and then go after a LT in the draft. Either way, Reid requires tackles that can play in space.

chiefzilla1501 03-15-2021 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15586843)
I'm going to side with staylor and say "must haves."

Now, I do think Niang is a sleeping giant at RT. I don't think people realize just how good he was before that hip injury in college.

That basically leaves LT and a solid swing tackle. If they get a good FA LT, they can take a guy like Walker Little to develop in round 3 and he can be a swing guy for a couple of years.

If they can't get a top-shelf LT in FA, then I think you look to get a good swing guy there and then go after a LT in the draft. Either way, Reid requires tackles that can play in space.

Just made me wonder because I remember Geoff schwartz commenting on Twitter that mahomes tendency to drift hurts his OL. Particularly his tackles. Said he needs to learn to climb the pocket.

Can take that two ways. Maybe a great interior gets mahomes to trust his pocket more. Or, if his permanent tendency is to drift are we always going to put our OTs in a tough spot regardless of who we put out there. I'd agree we need above average tackles... But do we need elite ones now that we have this kind of an interior?

Willie Lanier 03-15-2021 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15586891)
Just made me wonder because I remember Geoff schwartz commenting on Twitter that mahomes tendency to drift hurts his OL. Particularly his tackles. Said he needs to learn to climb the pocket.

Can take that two ways. Maybe a great interior gets mahomes to trust his pocket more. Or, if his permanent tendency is to drift are we always going to put our OTs in a tough spot regardless of who we put out there. I'd agree we need above average tackles... But do we need elite ones now that we have this kind of an interior?

You raised several good points.

Tackle is the gold standard for OL in this league; but carving out an online built differently to suit a unicorn isn't necessarily the worst idea...

I'm not jumping on any theories just yet but I appreciate the idealistic hope, and I still am holding out for silver sleeves or whatever his name is

wazu 03-15-2021 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15586835)
Reid still prefers to leave his T’s out on an island, so I still believe you need above average play at both spots.

This. We had hot garbage at tackle in the Superbowl against great edge rushers, and Reid just shrugged it off and called the game as if we had Orlando Pace on both sides. Get that man a great left AND right tackle.

chiefzilla1501 03-16-2021 12:21 AM

I think Andy thought he could get away with average guard play but had seen enough.

This offense badly needs quick pass, screens, playaction. Arguably the guard is more important. Not to mention that a lot of CEHs best running is up the gut. We saw how little confidence Reid had regular season when he refused to run against Tampas interior. Tampa annihilated us with stunts. Great defenses slide pass rushers like Aaron Donald inside. I used to be have guard really low on my list but it sure seems like so much of what mahomes needs right now. We need a short game more than we need long pass pro tight now.

rabblerouser 03-16-2021 01:39 AM

Dude is playing for less than $1m base this year.

For one of the best in the game.

Veach is a total badass.

mkp785 03-16-2021 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15586937)
Dude is playing for less than $1m base this year.

For one of the best in the game.

Veach is a total badass.

WTF?

His tag number is 4.7 Which is still good but where did you get less then 1 million dollars?

Dull Tools 03-16-2021 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15586919)
I think Andy thought he could get away with average guard play but had seen enough.

This offense badly needs quick pass, screens, playaction. Arguably the guard is more important. Not to mention that a lot of CEHs best running is up the gut. We saw how little confidence Reid had regular season when he refused to run against Tampas interior. Tampa annihilated us with stunts. Great defenses slide pass rushers like Aaron Donald inside. I used to be have guard really low on my list but it sure seems like so much of what mahomes needs right now. We need a short game more than we need long pass pro tight now.

I am thinking this morning that we are going to go all out for a rookie centre/left tackle in the draft or both hence the need for experience on the inside.

I wouldn't be surprised if we traded up for a tackle now.

royr17 03-16-2021 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 15586940)
WTF?

His tag number is 4.7 Which is still good but where did you get less then 1 million dollars?

Base is 990 K probably is 4.7 with incentives and bonuses

JakeF 03-16-2021 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15586901)
We had hot garbage at tackle in the Superbowl against great edge rushers, and Reid just shrugged it off and called the game as if we had Orlando Pace on both sides. Get that man a great left AND right tackle.

Yep, this chiefs better have a plan for left tackle. Andy doesn't like to help his tackles AT ALL. Fisher went his entire career without help, even against the best pass rushers in the league.

I hope the Chiefs aren't planning on sliding Thuney out to tackle. He's played there before but i would rather not count on him there now. You generally want to move people in, not out. CB to Safety, OT to Guard.

Dunerdr 03-16-2021 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15586969)
Yep, this chiefs better have a plan for left tackle. Andy doesn't like to help his tackles AT ALL. Fisher went his entire career without help, even against the best pass rushers in the league.

I hope the Chiefs aren't planning on sliding Thuney out to tackle. He's played there before but i would rather not count on him there now. You generally want to move people in, not out. CB to Safety, OT to Guard.

STFU

TwistedChief 03-16-2021 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15586969)
Yep, this chiefs better have a plan for left tackle. Andy doesn't like to help his tackles AT ALL. Fisher went his entire career without help, even against the best pass rushers in the league.

I hope the Chiefs aren't planning on sliding Thuney out to tackle. He's played there before but i would rather not count on him there now. You generally want to move people in, not out. CB to Safety, OT to Guard.

!!! I wish you would've relayed this info to Veach before we signed Thuney !!

JakeF 03-16-2021 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15586976)
STFU

What the **** is your problem with that generic post?

What part isn't true?

Coogs 03-16-2021 05:47 AM

That is a very good video in the OP! Worth the watch!

Chris Meck 03-16-2021 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15586984)
What the **** is your problem with that generic post?

What part isn't true?

Maybe it's that we signed a great player and you're already bitching.

Dunerdr 03-16-2021 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15586986)
Maybe it's that we signed a great player and you're already bitching.

*Veach signs the best available guard*

*JakeF- I hope we dont plan to play him at tackle what a shit move.

JakeF 03-16-2021 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15586986)
Maybe it's that we signed a great player and you're already bitching.

Not bitching, just talking

JakeF 03-16-2021 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15586990)
*Veach signs the best available guard*

*JakeF- I hope we dont plan to play him at tackle what a shit move.

Where did i say "shit move"?

I didn't.

Thuney plays multiple positions, so yes, i hope that we don't plan on playing him at OT.

chiefzilla1501 03-16-2021 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15586994)
Where did i say "shit move"?

I didn't.

Thuney plays multiple positions, so yes, i hope that we don't plan on playing him at OT.

Absolute worst case scenario we will use niang at LT and while that's a risk, niang has a lot of upside there. I'd be shocked if we didn't bring another tackle in the draft or free agency. Let alone multiple.


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