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Chiefspants 10-24-2021 01:51 PM

Mahomes will be 7-8 without Fish as a starter after the loss if official today. Not saying Fish is that good, but it's a stat that jumps out, for sure.

JakeF 10-24-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15911522)
Not really, Fisher was abused last game. He's not playing well at all. But neither is Orlando brown. So who knows?

Fisher coming back really fast from a bad injury.


People around here have hated Fisher from the Day he was drafted. Fisher is still better than Orland Brown Jr.

jd1020 10-24-2021 01:55 PM

Fisher is having a worse year than Brown isn't he?

He was a mediocre tackle his whole career. The **** are we crying about for?

Chiefspants 10-24-2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15911622)
Fisher is having a worse year than Brown isn't he?

He was a mediocre tackle his whole career. The **** are we crying about for?

The **** he was.

Dude was as solid in a position where "solid" is paid a premium price tag.

jd1020 10-24-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15911629)
The **** he was.

Dude was as solid in a position where "solid" is paid a premium price tag.

"Solid" doesn't get a premium price tag after tearing an achilles.

JakeF 10-24-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15911643)
"Solid" doesn't get a premium price tag after tearing an achilles.

This doesn't make any sense at all.

ROFL

Chiefspants 10-24-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15911643)
"Solid" doesn't get a premium price tag after tearing an achilles.

Which is entirely different than saying he was mediocre his whole career. Dude was as solid as a rock before that injury. He was known to struggle against elite bull rushers, but that was the only component keeping him from being elite.

jd1020 10-24-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15911671)
Which is entirely different than saying he was mediocre his whole career. Dude was as solid as a rock before that injury. He was known to struggle against elite bull rushers, but that was the only component keeping him from being elite.

He was mediocre. You aren't going to find Eric Fisher on any top tackle list anywhere. He got abused throughout his career. He's actually doing worse than Brown right now and people are crying to have Fisher back. You guys are ****ing insufferable.

If you are going to bitch about Brown, at least ask for someone who's ****ing better.

Chiefspants 10-24-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15911699)
He was mediocre.

Not even close, my dude.

I don't want Fisher back, but it's silly to pretend like he was always mediocre. He was a staple of our transformative offense.

jd1020 10-24-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15911715)
Not even close, my dude.

I don't want Fisher back, but it's silly to pretend like he was always mediocre. He was a staple of our transformative offense.

A staple? We won a SB when Bosa made him his bitch.

Hoopsdoc 10-24-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15911522)
Not really, Fisher was abused last game. He's not playing well at all. But neither is Orlando brown. So who knows?

Fisher has been up and down. Some good, a lot of bad.

I think that’s normal for a guy working his way back.

Chiefspants 10-24-2021 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15911727)
A staple? We won a SB when Bosa made him his bitch.

Oh he struggled against an elite bull rusher who set an NFL record for pressures in a single postseason?

Question - is David Bakhtiari also mediocre to you?

siberian khatru 03-09-2022 10:31 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: Eric Fisher is not expected to re-sign with Colts before free agency opens. <a href="https://t.co/niKajpc0Yo">https://t.co/niKajpc0Yo</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1501595405401866244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hoover 03-09-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16181957)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: Eric Fisher is not expected to re-sign with Colts before free agency opens. <a href="https://t.co/niKajpc0Yo">https://t.co/niKajpc0Yo</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1501595405401866244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There is our RT!

cabletech94 03-09-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16181976)
There is our RT!

Wouldn’t be against it……

Hoover 03-09-2022 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 16181981)
Wouldn’t be against it……

He's what 32? Would be a great way to extend your career.

Wisconsin_Chief 03-09-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16181976)
There is our RT!

He did play RT his rookie year, but the transition isn't as easy as people think especially since he's been on the left side for so long now.

That said, I would be fine with trying it if he's affordable enough. I love the guy and wish he could have retired here.

Dunerdr 03-09-2022 11:15 AM

IDK how he would be at right, but the versatility to play both would be nice. FTR i dont expect this to happen. He will get paid as a left tackle he came on pretty decent down the stretch.

louie aguiar 03-09-2022 11:22 AM

Is Wylie a free agent? I don't think we can count on Niang since he'll be coming off a severe injury. I would definitely support bringing back Fish at RT.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16182102)
Is Wylie a free agent? I don't think we can count on Niang since he'll be coming off a severe injury. I would definitely support bringing back Fish at RT.

Yeah, Wylie is a FA.

But he's eligible for the 4-year veterans cap exception so I think he'll end up staying here unless he can get a 3-year deal as a starter somewhere.

Dante84 03-09-2022 11:29 AM

There are some teams desperate for even moderate OL play; I think he'll get paid as a LT somewhere before he'd consider RT at KC on a discount.

Hoover 03-09-2022 11:30 AM

I wonder what the Chiefs might be able to get for a guy like Allegretti. I love this this kid, but the reality is that he is stuck in KC. There is good tape on the kid and there will be a market for him when he's a FA. I wonder if KC could get something for him in a year where these cap strapped teams are looking to plug holes without spending much money.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2022 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15911727)
A staple? We won a SB when Bosa made him his bitch.

The Chiefs went 11-0 in games played by Eric Fisher in 2019. They were 16-1 with him in the lineup in 2020.

27-1 over his last 2 seasons here with Eric Fisher. 4-6 in games without him.

Yeah, that's absolutely 'a staple'.

chiefforlife 03-09-2022 11:32 AM

Not sure if Fish would be cool with it but bringing him back for RT and swing T would be amazing!

That would be a SOLID O line.

The Franchise 03-09-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16182119)
Yeah, Wylie is a FA.

But he's eligible for the 4-year veterans cap exception so I think he'll end up staying here unless he can get a 3-year deal as a starter somewhere.

He may follow Kafka to the Giants. They need offensive line help.

Hoover 03-09-2022 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16182147)
He may follow Kafka to the Giants. They need offensive line help.

Makes a lot of sense.

chiefforlife 03-09-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16182135)
I wonder what the Chiefs might be able to get for a guy like Allegretti. I love this this kid, but the reality is that he is stuck in KC. There is good tape on the kid and there will be a market for him when he's a FA. I wonder if KC could get something for him in a year where these cap strapped teams are looking to plug holes without spending much money.

I really like the guy too BUT the Giants really need help on their Oline, what if we could offer him in a trade for Bradberry?

That I would do.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16182155)
I really like the guy too BUT the Giants really need help on their Oline, what if we could offer him in a trade for Bradberry?

That I would do.

$13.4 million salary for Bradberry this year and at 29 yrs old I have no interest in extending him in a way that would make that more palatable going forward.

I'd rather use that $13.4 million to keep Ward and it's not particularly close. If Allegretti has the kind of trade value to be the principal in a trade for a solid starting CB, I'd simply try to move him for something else.

If the Giants want Allegretti, they can send us Darius Slayton for him. Slayton would be a guy I'd be interested in working on an extension with and at worst, he walks in the offseason w/ no real harm done after playing out his final year at $2.5 million.

With Golladay, Shepard and Toney, the Giants have some WR depth they can trade from and Slayton is unlikely to look to extend there in his current role.

That deal would make a lot of sense for both sides provided that the Giants actually put that level of value on Allegretti.

BossChief 03-09-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16182119)
Yeah, Wylie is a FA.

But he's eligible for the 4-year veterans cap exception so I think he'll end up staying here unless he can get a 3-year deal as a starter somewhere.

I think Wylie is going to get significantly more than we think. Won’t be crazy money but I bet it’s 6-8m per year for 3-4 years.

suzzer99 03-09-2022 12:43 PM

Fisher at RT would have the added benefit that he could fill in at LT as well.

chiefforlife 03-09-2022 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16182284)
$13.4 million salary for Bradberry this year and at 29 yrs old I have no interest in extending him in a way that would make that more palatable going forward.

I'd rather use that $13.4 million to keep Ward and it's not particularly close. If Allegretti has the kind of trade value to be the principal in a trade for a solid starting CB, I'd simply try to move him for something else.

If the Giants want Allegretti, they can send us Darius Slayton for him. Slayton would be a guy I'd be interested in working on an extension with and at worst, he walks in the offseason w/ no real harm done after playing out his final year at $2.5 million.

With Golladay, Shepard and Toney, the Giants have some WR depth they can trade from and Slayton is unlikely to look to extend there in his current role.

That deal would make a lot of sense for both sides provided that the Giants actually put that level of value on Allegretti.

Yeah, I could go for that too!

Pitt Gorilla 03-09-2022 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16182296)
I think Wylie is going to get significantly more than we think. Won’t be crazy money but I bet it’s 6-8m per year for 3-4 years.

I think teams will value him than Chief Fan does, but I doubt many see him as a starter.

BossChief 03-09-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16182531)
I think teams will value him than Chief Fan does, but I doubt many see him as a starter.

He’s improved during his time here and was a solid starter, for the most part.

Solid OL that are still young bring a premium.

tredadda 03-09-2022 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16183021)
He’s improved during his time here and was a solid starter, for the most part.

Solid OL that are still young bring a premium.

Agree. He was better than most (myself included) thought he would be. He’s young and can play RG or RT. He’s not elite at either, but he is good enough that a team will pay decent money for that youth and versatility.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2022 07:59 PM

Who’s that dude that got a surprising deal with Houston who wore glasses and SNR loved?

Herb something, right?

Might be a similar situation. Versatility and youth got him a much bigger bag than we expected. Then he kinda sucked but that’s neither here nor there.

smithandrew051 03-09-2022 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16183154)
Who’s that dude that got a surprising deal with Houston who wore glasses and SNR loved?

Herb something, right?

Might be a similar situation. Versatility and youth got him a much bigger bag than we expected. Then he kinda sucked but that’s neither here nor there.

Herb Taylor?

DJ's left nut 03-09-2022 08:05 PM

Okay so the accountant looking dude that SNR loved was Herb Taylor and he did not play for the Texans or really anyone else after KC. He mostly just sucked.

The person I’m thinking of is actually Wade Smith, who signed a 4 year, $12 million deal with Houston completely out of left field.

And in fact he did NOT suck after he left. He was a good 4-year starter fro them and even made a Pro Bowl. So I completely combined two people into one there.

So Wade Smith is the comp here.

staylor26 03-09-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16183154)
Who’s that dude that got a surprising deal with Houston who wore glasses and SNR loved?

Herb something, right?

Might be a similar situation. Versatility and youth got him a much bigger bag than we expected. Then he kinda sucked but that’s neither here nor there.

Herb Taylor from TCU.


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