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Spott 10-11-2021 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15888941)
My guess is that the first email leaked, and the rest of them were found by his employers when they looked into it.

This part is pretty baffling. I’m guessing this kind of banter is pretty typical out on the practice field, but using your work email to do it is just crazy.

KC_Connection 10-11-2021 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15888868)
Depends. Contracts almost always allow people to be fired for cause. My guess is they already have an agreement in place that's somewhere between "he gets his full contract amount" and "he gets nothing."

The guy is clearly an asshole, but it's hard for me to see how emails that he wrote years ago when not employed with the organization would be considered cause. Gruden would win that legal fight, if it in fact becomes a fight.

InChiefsHeaven 10-11-2021 07:38 PM

Sigh. He said bad things...and wrote them in emails. I think it's stupid that this is a thing, but it's a thing. You have to be smarter than that. Hell, I don't even flirt with my wife via email at work. And I'm pretty sure after 30+ years she's not gonna sue...but someone else might if they see it...

Marcellus 10-11-2021 07:40 PM

Not the first or last time a dude gets fired not for being wrong but for not being PC about it.

You have to ask though if some of the emails were sent to Mark Davis and he didn’t fire Gruden until it got leaked then………

Edit: I’m not homophobic when I said he wasn’t wrong I mean calling Goodell a weak pussy etc… Nor do I like women refs just to have women refs.

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15888933)
Assuming he's getting paid that money still, yes.

Nah he resigned, probably given a choice to resign and not get paid or fired for some kind of contract detrimental to the team clause in the contract and not get paid.

Gruden said if he could not get the job done he would not take the money. Gruden supposedly said some homophobic shit as well and some sexist shit too.

Whatever, life goes on for me and Good Luck to Chucky... Maybe we can get a certain offensive coordinator that wears some ketchup and mustard gear right now.

dirk digler 10-11-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15888959)
Ohhhh, that's interesting. So Gruden just happened to be in the same foxhole when the mortar strikes came down.

What's interesting is that very little info has been leaked about the investigation into the Redskins. But not these emails lol

gblowfish 10-11-2021 07:42 PM

Chuckle Out
 
Raiders whacked him

SupDock 10-11-2021 07:42 PM

Again?

Just kidding. Probably deserves its own thread

Marcellus 10-11-2021 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 15888963)
Sigh. He said bad things...and wrote them in emails. I think it's stupid that this is a thing, but it's a thing. You have to be smarter than that. Hell, I don't even flirt with my wife via email at work. And I'm pretty sure after 30+ years she's not gonna sue...but someone else might if they see it...

Yup

Delano 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

Imagine getting fired by a guy with that haircut.

Pablo 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

Never look at the front page before you post breaking news people. Just don’t do it

Titty Meat 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

How are you going to get fired on your day off?!?

Rainbarrel 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

Connecting the freckles spells bad, bad things.

Easy 6 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15888927)
But, is he still part owner of the team that just fired him as head coach? Wasn't that part of his deal, 10% ownership?

IIRC you're correct, be interesting to see how thats handled

The Franchise 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15888970)
Nah he resigned, probably given a choice to resign and not get paid or fired for some kind of contract detrimental to the team clause in the contract and not get paid.

Gruden said if he could not get the job done he would not take the money. Gruden supposedly said some homophobic shit as well and some sexist shit too.

Whatever, life goes on for me and Good Luck to Chucky... Maybe we can get a certain offensive coordinator that wears some ketchup and mustard gear right now.

Bienemy? You can ****ing have him.

srvy 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

I wonder what becomes of Deuce Gruden. Also, who names their son after a shit.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/p...pv9a63bxpt.jpg

chiefzilla1501 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15888953)
They were part of the investigation into the Redskins\Synder. His best buddy is Bruce Allen who was the GM\President of the Skins.

Which goes to show that execs are above the rules. Snyder should be out of the league way before gruden. Especially considering how nobody in Washington even wants him there.

KChiefs1 10-11-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 15888977)
Again?


Nobody will ever hire him again.


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Marcellus 10-11-2021 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15888970)

Whatever, life goes on for me and Good Luck to Chucky... Maybe we can get a certain offensive coordinator that wears some ketchup and mustard gear right now.

Don’t you read CP? Our offense sucks.

BryanBusby 10-11-2021 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15888982)
How are you going to get fired on your day off?!?

For shit he said when he wasn't even a coach, no less.

KC_Connection 10-11-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15888970)
Nah he resigned, probably given a choice to resign and not get paid or fired for some kind of contract detrimental to the team clause in the contract and not get paid.

Gruden said if he could not get the job done he would not take the money. Gruden supposedly said some homophobic shit as well and some sexist shit too.

Whatever, life goes on for me and Good Luck to Chucky... Maybe we can get a certain offensive coordinator that wears some ketchup and mustard gear right now.

I don't buy it for a second that he didn't get some money out of this. Nobody gives up that kind of money willingly. We'll see.

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15888989)
Don’t you read CP? Our offense sucks.

Your offense doesn't suck, Your D does but not the O

Marcellus 10-11-2021 07:46 PM

You have to laugh at Booger saying he can’t believe people still talk like this. Dude apparently forgot what a locker room sounds like.

InChiefsHeaven 10-11-2021 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15888988)
Nobody will ever hire him again.


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Heh. Well, just wait for it...the new Football Podcast starring Jon Gruden and OJ Simpson!!

1 million followers guaranteed.

Garcia Bronco 10-11-2021 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 15888980)
Imagine getting fired by a guy with that haircut.

Best comment in thread

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15888992)
I don't buy it for a second that he didn't get some money out of this. Nobody gives up that kind of money willingly. We'll see.

I heard they had too much on him and it would have been death by a million cuts. He may have gotten something but I never really cared how a Billionaire spends his money as long as it doesn't go against the cap.

Red Dawg 10-11-2021 07:48 PM

ROFL
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 15888986)
I wonder what becomes of Deuce Gruden. Also, who names their son after a shit.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/p...pv9a63bxpt.jpg


TwistedChief 10-11-2021 07:48 PM

Anyone been through Sorenson’s emails? Pretty please?

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 07:48 PM

Cancel Culture wins again

Gary Cooper 10-11-2021 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15888995)
You have to laugh at Booger saying he can’t believe people still talk like this. Dude apparently forgot what a locker room sounds like.

No kidding. When I was in high school, saying f****t was like saying hello to someone. It's what we said to insult each other.

Here's the thing. I worked on document review before in large litigations. Reading hundreds of emails every day from people as high as CEOs to lower level workers. You'd be surprised what people talk about in work emails. Not realizing that may be read someday if there's a lawsuit and that company has to produce all their emails. When you're as high up as Allen or Gruden, you should know better than putting this in workplace emails.

Rams Fan 10-11-2021 07:49 PM

The Raiders also blatantly violated the Rooney Rule when re-hiring him.

Sassy Squatch 10-11-2021 07:50 PM

Snyder sure has a fetish for ruining the careers of anyone named Gruden.

Rams Fan 10-11-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15889009)
Cancel Culture wins again

The Raiders have an openly gay player on the roster.

Do you really, really think the players that support Nassib would want to play for Gruden?

InChiefsHeaven 10-11-2021 07:50 PM

Was the stuff about the cheerleaders posing topless a real thing? I mean, that might be criminal charges if true yes? Or at least a civil suit...

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15889015)
The Raiders have an openly gay player on the roster.

Do you really, really think the players that support Nassib would want to play for Gruden?

**** Nassib and Cancel Culture .. Who gives a shit who people prefer to sleep with.

LiveSteam 10-11-2021 07:52 PM

First off **** Chucky Gruden
But it looks like to me.

FBI raided the Redskins main office over this Gruden email exchange inorder to leak the emails to the NY Times.

Federal Blackmail Institution

The Franchise 10-11-2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15889018)
**** Nassib and Cancel Culture .. Who gives a shit who people prefer to sleep with.

Apparently Gruden does.

BryanBusby 10-11-2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 15889017)
Was the stuff about the cheerleaders posing topless a real thing? I mean, that might be criminal charges if true yes? Or at least a civil suit...

Remains to be seen, but I think the NFL direly wants this to go away now. They wanted Gruden gone ASAP.

Pablo 10-11-2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15889018)
**** Nassib and Cancel Culture .. Who gives a shit who people prefer to sleep with.

Apparently gruden?

carcosa 10-11-2021 07:53 PM

Wait. You're telling me he didn't just send one racist email a decade ago????? He has a pattern of being a hateful asshole???? Never woulda guessed!!!!!!

Gary Cooper 10-11-2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 15889017)
Was the stuff about the cheerleaders posing topless a real thing? I mean, that might be criminal charges if true yes? Or at least a civil suit...

It's hard to say until I see the pictures.

Baby Lee 10-11-2021 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15889015)
The Raiders have an openly gay player on the roster.

Do you really, really think the players that support Nassib would want to play for Gruden?

NASSIB plays for Gruden, quite well.

**** thinking what Gruden said in a fight with someone completely different negates how the two of them interacted every day for years.

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15889023)
Apparently gruden?

i don't think he ever said anything about Nassib, I think he said something about that Sam guy in 2014

TwistedChief 10-11-2021 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 15889019)
First off **** Chucky Gruden
But it looks like to me.

FBI raided the Redskins main office over this Gruden email exchange inorder to leak the emails to the NY Times.

Federal Blackmail Institution

Interesting. I didn’t read this anywhere. Can you please provide your source?

The Franchise 10-11-2021 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15889032)
i don't think he ever said anything about Nassib, I think he said something about that Sam guy in 2014

So he only hates certain gay people? Do you realize how ****ing stupid you sound?

JohnnyHammersticks 10-11-2021 07:55 PM

I'm way more offended by Mark Davis's hairdo than by anything Gruden said.

Rams Fan 10-11-2021 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15889018)
**** Nassib and Cancel Culture .. Who gives a shit who people prefer to sleep with.

Shouldn't this be **** Gruden for saying this shit? How on earth is this a Nassib problem?

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15889031)
NASSIB plays for Gruden, quite well.

**** thinking what Gruden said in a fight with someone completely different negates how the two of them interacted every day for years.

What about being a complete dumbass to communicate this through a work e-mail?

Pablo 10-11-2021 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15889036)
So he only hates certain gay people? Do you realize how ****ing stupid you sound?

He’s not dumb. He’s a millionaire you bundle of sticks!

Sassy Squatch 10-11-2021 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15889035)
Interesting. I didn’t read this anywhere. Can you please provide your source?

DEA raided the WFT headquarters. Assistant Athletic Trainer may have been pushing pills.

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15889036)
So he only hates certain gay people? Do you realize how ****ing stupid you sound?

i am not defending him. Ego + Money = problems eventually

jd1020 10-11-2021 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15889036)
So he only hates certain gay people? Do you realize how ****ing stupid you sound?

Didnt he insinuate that the Rams were pressured to draft him?

Think it had less to do about him being gay and more to do with the league trying to force an agenda.

Pablo 10-11-2021 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15889041)



What about being a complete dumbass to communicate this through a work e-mail?

That’s just classic boomer stuff there

BryanBusby 10-11-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15889041)
Shouldn't this be **** Gruden for saying this shit? How on earth is this a Nassib problem?



What about being a complete dumbass to communicate this through a work e-mail?

Well clearly Nassib should have been gay somewhere more convenient for the Grudsters.

Baby Lee 10-11-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15889036)
So he only hates certain gay people? Do you realize how ****ing stupid you sound?

No, he questioned the wisdom of the league pressuring a team to draft someone who proved not NFL-worthy for the purpose of promoting a message of sexual expression.

Rams Fan 10-11-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15889048)
That’s just classic boomer stuff there

In before some idiot takes this shit to DC and claims it's OK.

The Franchise 10-11-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15889046)
Didnt he insinuate that the Rams were pressured to draft him?

Even if that was all he meant….he’s still a racist and sexist dipshit.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 07:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders’ assistant coach Rich Bisaccia is expected to replace Jon Gruden as the team’s interim HC, per ESPN’s <a href="https://twitter.com/SuzyKolber?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SuzyKolber</a>.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1447740449809129473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kstater 10-11-2021 07:58 PM

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jd1020 10-11-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 15889054)

If he said a white person had a big nose, no one would care.

Stryker 10-11-2021 07:58 PM

So we can win 2 games vs. Raiders now?

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15889041)
Shouldn't this be **** Gruden for saying this shit? How on earth is this a Nassib problem?



What about being a complete dumbass to communicate this through a work e-mail?

Not really, Grudens time has come and gone before this shit, I believe in free speech and don't give two shits about peoples feelings.

Marcellus 10-11-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 15889010)
No kidding. When I was in high school, saying f****t was like saying hello to someone. It's what we said to insult each other.

Here's the thing. I worked on document review before in large litigations. Reading hundreds of emails every day from people as high as CEOs to lower level workers. You'd be surprised what people talk about in work emails. Not realizing that may be read someday if there's a lawsuit and that company has to produce all their emails. When you're as high up as Allen or Gruden, you should know better than putting this in workplace emails.

Our company had a bullshit lawsuit filed I don’t want to get into but long story short they subpoenaed 5 years of emails involving a range of people and topics. Thousands and thousands. Just insane.

None of it bit us in the ass but it’s eye opening. They probably read a lot of off color shit I’m sure.

Sassy Squatch 10-11-2021 07:59 PM

NFL planned to leak more emails until he was gone. Just how spicy was Gruden getting in those emails??? LMAO

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15889059)
NFL planned to leak more emails until he was gone. Just how spicy was Gruden getting in those emails??? LMAO

exactly

jettio 10-11-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15888969)
Not the first or last time a dude gets fired not for being wrong but for not being PC about it.

You have to ask though if some of the emails were sent to Mark Davis and he didn’t fire Gruden until it got leaked then………

Edit: I’m not homophobic when I said he wasn’t wrong I mean calling Goodell a weak pussy etc… Nor do I like women refs just to have women refs.

It is more like if you lay down with dogs, you're going to get fleas.

Bruce Allen was already shitcanned and blackballed by the league because of the bullshit that went on at the Redskins workplace.

Gruden had to see this coming if he had any idea about the scope of the investigation into the Redskins.

His brother was head coach there and his son, Deuce, was an assistant strength and conditioning coach there. It will be interesting to see if Deuce stays on as Raiders assistant strength and conditioning coach.

There are plenty of things to email about other than the stupid shit he is in trouble for now.

Marcellus 10-11-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15889057)
Not really, Grudens time has come and gone before this shit, I believe in free speech and don't give two shits about peoples feelings.

Why you gotta make me like you a little?

Rams Fan 10-11-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15889057)
Not really, Grudens time has come and gone before this shit, I believe in free speech and don't give two shits about peoples feelings.

Except this wasn't an issue of free speech!

He was communicating via his employer's e-mail!

And wasn't punished by the government!

Baby Lee 10-11-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15889049)
Well clearly Nassib should have been gay somewhere more convenient for the Grudsters.

Is it your assertion that, when someone is gay, that is the central organizing principle of their entire life, and whatever they happen to choose for career and other interpersonal interest are purely ancillary.

Like, they were born to 'be gay' and life is what happens in the meantime?

How is this perspective any better than the bigot's?

jd1020 10-11-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15889059)
NFL planned to leak more emails until he was gone. Just how spicy was Gruden getting in those emails??? LMAO

Its pretty weird to me that they would even leak them. There has to be some kind of gain for someone higher up than Gruden to get rid of him.

BryanBusby 10-11-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15889059)
NFL planned to leak more emails until he was gone. Just how spicy was Gruden getting in those emails??? LMAO

They had a lot of interest in this for a reason.

Easy 6 10-11-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15888995)
You have to laugh at Booger saying he can’t believe people still talk like this. Dude apparently forgot what a locker room sounds like.

A man called Booger suddenly has a case of the vapors, lol

Marcellus 10-11-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15889064)
Except this wasn't an issue of free speech!

He was communicating via his employer's e-mail!

And wasn't punished by the government!

Does it ever mention he used company email vs personnel?

Also they claim some were sent to Mark Davis. How does he not catch heat for not doing anything until they were exposed?

Sassy Squatch 10-11-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15889069)
Its pretty weird to me that they would even leak them. There has to be some kind of gain for someone higher up than Gruden to get rid of him.

He called Goodell a f****t. Not really a mystery who wanted him gone and why LMAO

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15889064)
Except this wasn't an issue of free speech!

He was communicating via his employer's e-mail!

And wasn't punished by the government!

How do you know he doesn't use a Gmail account? You got inside info or are you assuming?

jd1020 10-11-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15889076)
He called Goodell a f****t. Not really a mystery who wanted him gone and why LMAO

The only one who hasn't called Goodell that is Robert Kraft.

Coach 10-11-2021 08:02 PM

Guessing ESPN is either tip-toeing their way around this or doing an internal review of their email servers....

FlaChief58 10-11-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15888982)
How are you going to get fired on your day off?!?

Any time I've ever been fired, the assholes had me bust my ass all day before they broke the news. Plumbing company owners are the Chiefs D of bosses

R8RFAN 10-11-2021 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15889073)
Does it ever mention he used company email vs personnel?

Also they claim some were sent to Mark Davis. How does he not catch heat for not doing anything until they were exposed?

we think alike is why

BryanBusby 10-11-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15889067)
Is it your assertion that, when someone is gay, that is the central organizing principle of their entire life, and whatever they happen to choose for career and other interpersonal interest are purely ancillary.

Like, they were born to 'be gay' and life is what happens in the meantime?

How is this perspective any better than the bigot's?

What in the blue **** are you talking about you ****ing weirdo sperg

Coach 10-11-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15889078)
The only one who hasn't called Goodell that is Robert Kraft.

And speaking of that, Kraft and Snyder shouldn't be owners after what just happened to them.


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