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Kiimo 12-27-2021 04:08 PM

It's getting chippy out here already, lol excellent



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bengals could 100% beat the Chiefs. Wake up, kids. The Chiefs have been SUPER lucky. Note they have gained 5.9 per play and allowed 5.8. Does that seem dominant?</p>&mdash; Michael Salfino (@MichaelSalfino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1475578148276297735?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

HC_Chief 12-27-2021 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16037374)
I didn't save the thread link but it was especially funny reading the one where the guy goes on and on about having faced top-tier pass rushers off the edge so they aren't scared of the pass rush. Never mind the fact they are facing the 2nd best interior pass rusher in the NFL, one like they don't and haven't faced, to go along with solid outside rushers. That dynamic should be interesting since their IOL is even worse than their tackles, especially where Jones will line up over Hopkins and Adeniji.

Burrow will have to get the ball out extremely fast and he has long-stride WRs going against press-man corners. That's not an easy task. We'll see, but I like KC's matchup if the pressure is getting home like expected. If the pressure isn't getting there, then I think our DBs might struggle to cover those receivers long.

As for their defense... they have 3 good players in Hendrickson, Wilson, and Bates. Wilson might not play. The rest of that defense is very mediocre and don't match up well with KC's speed. They can't cover Kelce and they won't be able to cover Hill. So long as KC helps out Brown with Hendrickson, there shouldn't be much to slow down KC's offense. Avoid throwing shit up for grabs around Bates or he'll make you pay. Vonn Bell fills well in the run game but isn't too great in coverage. CBs are all retreads.

If that turns out to be the case, it'll be blow-out city, baby! Kelce is going to be amped up, playing in his old stomping grounds in front of friends & family. Cincy, we know, cannot cover TEs for shit. Oof. Best TE in NFL history, amped up, wanting to ball out. Fastest WR any of us have ever seen. Amazing QB. KC Defense that has been absolutely dominant over the second half of this season. Brutal. :evil::evil:

HC_Chief 12-27-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16037377)
It's getting chippy out here already, lol excellent



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bengals could 100% beat the Chiefs. Wake up, kids. The Chiefs have been SUPER lucky. Note they have gained 5.9 per play and allowed 5.8. Does that seem dominant?</p>&mdash; Michael Salfino (@MichaelSalfino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1475578148276297735?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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duncan_idaho 12-27-2021 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16037374)
I didn't save the thread link but it was especially funny reading the one where the guy goes on and on about having faced top-tier pass rushers off the edge so they aren't scared of the pass rush. Never mind the fact they are facing the 2nd best interior pass rusher in the NFL, one like they don't and haven't faced, to go along with solid outside rushers. That dynamic should be interesting since their IOL is even worse than their tackles, especially where Jones will line up over Hopkins and Adeniji.

Burrow will have to get the ball out extremely fast and he has long-stride WRs going against press-man corners. That's not an easy task. We'll see, but I like KC's matchup if the pressure is getting home like expected. If the pressure isn't getting there, then I think our DBs might struggle to cover those receivers long.

As for their defense... they have 3 good players in Hendrickson, Wilson, and Bates. Wilson might not play. The rest of that defense is very mediocre and don't match up well with KC's speed. They can't cover Kelce and they won't be able to cover Hill. So long as KC helps out Brown with Hendrickson, there shouldn't be much to slow down KC's offense. Avoid throwing shit up for grabs around Bates or he'll make you pay. Vonn Bell fills well in the run game but isn't too great in coverage. CBs are all retreads.

I hadn't thought about Higgins and Chase, but good point. If KC has success creating early pressure, that could neutralize some of their dynamic ability.

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16037377)
It's getting chippy out here already, lol excellent



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bengals could 100% beat the Chiefs. Wake up, kids. The Chiefs have been SUPER lucky. Note they have gained 5.9 per play and allowed 5.8. Does that seem dominant?</p>&mdash; Michael Salfino (@MichaelSalfino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1475578148276297735?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is one of those stats that doesn't tell you as much as you think it might unless you look at context.

Example: When you are blowing a lot of teams out, you tend to go into a shell and run vanilla offense late.

During this win streak, the Chiefs have outscored opponents 233-103. That works out to 29.25-12.875 as an average score.

kccrow 12-27-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16037389)
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The stat that matters... Scoreboard.

Chiefs PPG 28.1 (4th in NFL)
Chiefs OPPG 20.5 (tied for 5th in NFL)

ChiTown 12-27-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16037377)
It's getting chippy out here already, lol excellent



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bengals could 100% beat the Chiefs. Wake up, kids. The Chiefs have been SUPER lucky. Note they have gained 5.9 per play and allowed 5.8. Does that seem dominant?</p>&mdash; Michael Salfino (@MichaelSalfino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1475578148276297735?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What or who is a Michael Salfino?

HC_Chief 12-27-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16037394)
The stat that matters... Scoreboard.

Chiefs PPG 28.1 (4th in NFL)
Chiefs OPPG 20.5 (tied for 5th in NFL)

Nah, they've just been SUPER lucky! Wake up, kids! LUCKY. SUPER LUCKY. THAT'S ALL! The Chiefs are .1 yards per play LUCKIER than everyone else! Just .1 yards per play from being 0'fer! LUCKY. SUPER lucky. Wake up, kids.

kccrow 12-27-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16037396)
What or who is a Michael Salfino?

According to Google, some hack from Jersey that writes about fantasy football for The Athletic.

Kiimo 12-27-2021 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16037396)
What or who is a Michael Salfino?


Another betting asshole like the ones that had Pittsburgh covering




Also man are people high on the Bengals right now. Did everybody not know that the Ravens had like 14 healthy players on defense? I started every Raven I had in all fantasy leagues still going. I demanded to my friend he start Burrow over Taysom Hill and he argued!


The Bengals lost to the JETS and the BEARS

Bearcat 12-27-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16037396)
What or who is a Michael Salfino?

He's been watching the NFL for so long, he knows upsets happen.




So, for at least the past 26 hours.

carcosa 12-27-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16037396)
What or who is a Michael Salfino?

A huge dumbass!!!!

DRM08 12-27-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16037393)
I hadn't thought about Higgins and Chase, but good point. If KC has success creating early pressure, that could neutralize some of their dynamic ability.



This is one of those stats that doesn't tell you as much as you think it might unless you look at context.

Example: When you are blowing a lot of teams out, you tend to go into a shell and run vanilla offense late.

During this win streak, the Chiefs have outscored opponents 233-103. That works out to 29.25-12.875 as an average score.

The defense was also giving up 9-10 yards per play in the first 7 weeks. Their full season stats will not show how well the defense has played in recent weeks.

Kiimo 12-27-2021 04:35 PM

Also Bengals fans who I know are reading this you are wrong about the Mahomes bandwagoners being on this site. These people have been suffering here since the 90s.

Calling us entitled and toxic like we're pats fans is supposed to be an insult? Man what a difference Mahomes makes suddenly we're the entitled fans just lmao

staylor26 12-27-2021 04:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Super lucky vs Denver</p>&mdash; Michael Salfino (@MichaelSalfino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1475581511164440577?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

Who the **** is this clown?

HC_Chief 12-27-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16037396)
What or who is a Michael Salfino?

Definitely not a butt****ing moron. DEFINITELY not.

FlaChief58 12-27-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16037420)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Super lucky vs Denver</p>&mdash; Michael Salfino (@MichaelSalfino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1475581511164440577?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

Who the **** is this clown?

Give him a break, he lives in ohio ffs

smithandrew051 12-27-2021 04:47 PM

If we’ve been lucky, then what happened when the Bengals played the Chargers at home on a normal week?

notorious 12-27-2021 04:48 PM

Not going to be easy.

Chiefs are rolling, but Cincy is going to be tough. We all see what happens if 3 or 4 bounces don't go our way early in the season.

Tough, close losses.

Of course, if those 3-4 bounces go our way we ****ing annihilate the other team......

smithandrew051 12-27-2021 04:51 PM

I want to play the Colts, so Indy fans can stumble onto a few of the Jonathan Taylor threads around here.

KCUnited 12-27-2021 04:54 PM

No one:

Gals Fan: Our high school programs tho!

Kiimo 12-27-2021 04:58 PM

^^^^^ lol I'm not the only one reading this trainwreck



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Ohio has arguably the 3rd best high school football after Texas and Florida. And now with UC 2 of the top teams in the country in college. Football is a big deal here.


They are high school football smack talking now. I mean...


It will never stop being funny how much they love football in Ohio and yet have been represented by the Browns and Bengals.

No wonder Michigan fans hate these guys


Also when is Titty Meat gonna create an account and talk shit over there

Red Dawg 12-27-2021 04:58 PM

Cinci is tough. We are better but they are very good right now.

Kiimo 12-27-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16037453)
Cinci is tough. We are better but they are very good right now.

Again, they were playing the Ravens who had 13 healthy defensive players and they lost to the Jets and the Bears

ChiTown 12-27-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16037429)
Not going to be easy.

Chiefs are rolling, but Cincy is going to be tough. We all see what happens if 3 or 4 bounces don't go our way early in the season.

Tough, close losses.

Of course, if those 3-4 bounces go our way we ****ing annihilate the other team......

That Team doesn't even remotely resemble what this Team is today. Sorry, I'm done buying BS from what transpired during the first 7 games. This Team is ****ing rolling and they aren't going back. :)

jerryaldini 12-27-2021 05:07 PM

Ickey shuffle and Sam Wyche announcing on the PA system during the game "you don't live in Cleveland" are the greatest things to happen to Bengals football. Ickey led Bengals so close to a SB win. Loved those old plain helmets from the 70s that just said Bengals.

Chiefspants 12-27-2021 05:23 PM

Imagine losing a Super Bowl to a QB great like Montana.

Building up 7 years of anxiety, build-up, and anticipation to rematch him in the Super Bowl.

Having a 4th quarter Super Bowl lead and watching your defense drop a for sure interception in the end zone -- and then watching that same quarterback that broke your heart 7 years before lead a gamewinning TD to ice it with 34 seconds left in the game.

And then having a 30 year drought AFTER? Good God. I know 97 broke our team with Elway beating us in the playoffs, but unlike the Steelers and Denver fans who are crying about being in a drought, Bengals fans, especially the ol' timers, know a special kind of pain and heartbreak that we used to know all too well (but no longer, thank the lord).

I'll be honest, the mere idea of facing Brady in the Super Bowl again is something I don't want any part of, but at least our franchise would be in good shape afterwards. I'm not even 30 yet, but I'd be in my 60's if we had a playoff win drought like the Bengals have had. Good God. What's most amazing is despite everything, against all odds, they aren't even the most heartbreaking team in their state. Hell, baseball isn't much better for them as their 2012 dream team got Buster Posey'd (know that feeling well). It seems like a few on that forum are both Cincinatti AND Ohio State CFB fans, but God, with their professional sports teams, I can't blame them for waving both of those flags.

On a side note, to the Cincy fans reading this -- here's a 6 year delayed thank you for Johnny Cueto. He was everything we Royals fans needed.

HC_Chief 12-27-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16037487)
Imagine losing a Super Bowl to a QB great like Montana.

Building up 7 years of anxiety, build-up, and anticipation to rematch him in the Super Bowl.

Having a 4th quarter Super Bowl lead and watching your defense drop a for sure interception in the end zone -- and then watching that same quarterback that broke your heart 7 years before lead a gamewinning TD to ice it with 34 seconds left in the game.

And then having a 30 year drought AFTER? Good God. I know 97 broke our team with Elway beating us in the playoffs, but unlike the Steelers and Denver fans who are crying about being in a drought, Bengals fans, especially the ol' timers, know a special kind of pain and heartbreak that we used to know all too well (but no longer, thank the lord).

I'll be honest, the mere idea of facing Brady in the Super Bowl again is something I don't want any part of, but at least our franchise would be in good shape afterwards. I'm not even 30 yet, but I'd be in my 60's if we had a playoff win drought like the Bengals have had. Good God. What's most amazing is despite everything, against all odds, they aren't even the most heartbreaking team in their state. Hell, baseball isn't much better for them as their 2012 dream team got Buster Posey'd (know that feeling well). It seems like a few on that forum are both Cincinatti AND Ohio State CFB fans, but God, with their professional sports teams, I can't blame them for waving both of those flags.

On a side note, to the Cincy fans reading this -- here's a 6 year delayed thank you for Johnny Cueto. He was everything we Royals fans needed.

Yeah, but how about them HS football teams, huh? Only TX and FL got anything on them. They've got that going for them, which is nice.

KC_Connection 12-27-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16037377)
It's getting chippy out here already, lol excellent



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bengals could 100% beat the Chiefs. Wake up, kids. The Chiefs have been SUPER lucky. Note they have gained 5.9 per play and allowed 5.8. Does that seem dominant?</p>&mdash; Michael Salfino (@MichaelSalfino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1475578148276297735?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't think even think this clown believes his own shit that he's trying to peddle.

kccrow 12-27-2021 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16037487)
Imagine losing a Super Bowl to a QB great like Montana.

Building up 7 years of anxiety, build-up, and anticipation to rematch him in the Super Bowl.

Having a 4th quarter Super Bowl lead and watching your defense drop a for sure interception in the end zone -- and then watching that same quarterback that broke your heart 7 years before lead a gamewinning TD to ice it with 34 seconds left in the game.

And then having a 30 year drought AFTER? Good God. I know 97 broke our team with Elway beating us in the playoffs, but unlike the Steelers and Denver fans who are crying about being in a drought, Bengals fans, especially the ol' timers, know a special kind of pain and heartbreak that we used to know all too well (but no longer, thank the lord).

I'll be honest, the mere idea of facing Brady in the Super Bowl again is something I don't want any part of, but at least our franchise would be in good shape afterwards. I'm not even 30 yet, but I'd be in my 60's if we had a playoff win drought like the Bengals have had. Good God. What's most amazing is despite everything, against all odds, they aren't even the most heartbreaking team in their state. Hell, baseball isn't much better for them as their 2012 dream team got Buster Posey'd (know that feeling well). It seems like a few on that forum are both Cincinatti AND Ohio State CFB fans, but God, with their professional sports teams, I can't blame them for waving both of those flags.

On a side note, to the Cincy fans reading this -- here's a 6 year delayed thank you for Johnny Cueto. He was everything we Royals fans needed.

It makes it tough to actually talk smack when a fanbase has gone through the same shit we have. I'm more inclined to rub them a little given it's a regular-season game than if it were a playoff game. Two teams I'd rather not face in the playoffs are the Bengals and the Bills because both are so inconsistent. If they are firing on all cylinders, they can be supremely dangerous but if not they can be a cakewalk. You don't want to hit that chance they play well.

neech 12-27-2021 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16037365)

One of my favorite games in the off season to watch it never gets old the Chiefs were rolling, good times.

KC_Connection 12-27-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16037393)
This is one of those stats that doesn't tell you as much as you think it might unless you look at context.

Example: When you are blowing a lot of teams out, you tend to go into a shell and run vanilla offense late.

During this win streak, the Chiefs have outscored opponents 233-103. That works out to 29.25-12.875 as an average score.

This. But it also ignores that the Chiefs have been very good in that stat since about week 8 when their defense had a massive turnaround.

Chiefspants 12-27-2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16037525)
It makes it tough to actually talk smack when a fanbase has gone through the same shit we have. I'm more inclined to rub them a little given it's a regular-season game than if it were a playoff game. Two teams I'd rather not face in the playoffs are the Bengals and the Bills because both are so inconsistent. If they are firing on all cylinders, they can be supremely dangerous but if not they can be a cakewalk. You don't want to hit that chance they play well.

Yeah, they're a hard team to hate and have a long-suffering fanbase with many who have loyally watched them through defeats and division rivals reaching the top of the mountain in that time (can you imagine if Atwater blew up Gannon's knee after he threw a touchdown to go up 7-0 before Grbac blew it against Elway -- and then the Broncos winning the SB after? Yeesh). Even they're forum is funny, there's a thread where people are like "I feel more hopeful with Burrow than I ever did with Dalton (rightfully) and I think I'm as hopeful as I was with Boomer" and replies are like "woah, settle down there."

Definitely would prefer to watch the Bengans out of anyone else in the AFC if we went down. Imagine a Titans-Patriots rematch in the AFCCG. :Lin:

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16037512)
Yeah, but how about them HS football teams, huh? Only TX and FL got anything on them. They've got that going for them, which is nice.

I mean, it makes sense. With the products their professional sports teams have put out since the 90's I'd probably have taken up Arena League fandom right now from sheer desperation. I wasn't even alive the last time the Bengals won a playoff game.

All this board smack is reminding me of when Hog Farmer would go on opposing boards but instead of smack talk would host Q&A's on the ins and outs of artificial insemination and just bewilder opposing fanbases (if I remember right those were in the Pioli years where we didn't have a lot to smack talk about anyway).

BWillie 12-27-2021 05:50 PM

I feel bad for Ohio professional sporting fans

smithandrew051 12-27-2021 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by neech (Post 16037529)
One of my favorite games in the off season to watch it never gets old the Chiefs were rolling, good times.

It was a great time. Sunday night. Great atmosphere. Perfect weather. Chiefs rolling in prime time.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-27-2021 05:55 PM

Bengals have a very capable offense but an average at best defense. That's that's not enough to win this one.

smithandrew051 12-27-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16037544)
Bengals have a very capable offense but an average at best defense. That's that's not enough to win this one.

Their offense is like a great looking house with a sinking foundation.

Looks great, but not very stable.

Their pass protection is complete trash. Good defenses will make them pay.

Megatron96 12-27-2021 06:03 PM

CIN has an offense, no question. They can run the ball effectively and with Burrow they can pass. They're in the top-15 total offense/game, top-10 passing yds/game, bottom third rushing/game, and top-10 again in scoring/game.

But they're pretty inconsistent, and that's not just for the season, but through their last 5 games as well. And they have issues offensively that have carried from week 1 to the present.

For instance, while CIN ranks in the top-12 in pts/gm, yds/gm, pts/play, yds/play, they somehow rank just 17th in 3rd down conversion% (39.89%). For comparison, KC ranks 1st with 51.67% conversion rate.

On the other side of the ball, CIN's D ranks 18th in 3rd down conversion% (40.40%), or well below average, with doesn't bode well for their defense come Sunday.

And it gets worse. The Bengals allow opposing QBs to complete passes at an astonishing rate (66.49%) in 2021, good for 22nd in the league. Go back and look at that list someone posted about the QBs CIN has faced in 2021. Other than Rodgers and Herbert it's not a distinguished list. Cousins (351yds, 2TDs), Rothelisberger (318, 1TDs), Mike White (405, 3TDs), Herbert (317, 3TDs), Garrapolo (296, 2TDs).

If those guys can throw for 300+ yds and multiple TDs on that defense, what could Mahomes do?

There's more, like the fact that they turn the ball over at a higher-than-average rate and are below-average generating turnovers on defense.

In simple form,

It's like this: CIN's offense is better than average, and their defense is decent at stopping the run, but below average stopping any passing attack, give away 3rd down conversions like they were candy, really bad at stopping opposing teams in the RZ, they turn the ball over too much, don't generate turnovers, and they're about to face one of the most efficient passing attacks in the league.

Any given Sunday, plus COVID BS, and all that, but by the numbers, good luck. They're going to need a healthy dose of luck to beat this Chiefs team the way KC is playing right now.

kccrow 12-27-2021 06:12 PM

They're patiently awaiting your arrival Titty.

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Ch...141#pid1127141

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They have a guy named Titty Meat... They're surprised he isn't here talkin' shit.
To be honest, so am I. I can only imagine the opinions they'll have of us after this goes down.

staylor26 12-27-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16037561)
They're patiently awaiting your arrival Titty.

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Ch...141#pid1127141



To be honest, so am I. I can only imagine the opinions they'll have of us after this goes down.

LMAO

Bearcat 12-27-2021 06:25 PM

This is like the beginning of a high school dance and we're just waiting for that first guy to walk across the gym and say hi.

tredadda 12-27-2021 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16036983)
Laughed at "Shawnee Mission South gangs" and all of the city/region trash talk... and how no one in KCMO can afford season tickets.

And of course the "bandwagoners" comments with many people posting here with join dates of 2000.... even though one person rightfully said their fanbase would transform if they won a SB, too.

My personal favorite is when they call us arrogant. I guess we are supposed to defer to their greatness because because they blew out a depleted Ravens team.

KC has lost 10 games in three years COMBINED. KC has hosted three straight AFCCGs which no team in AFC history can say. They have been to back to back SBs and were an offsides from three straight SBs. KC was an injured OLine and questionable calls from probably being back to back champs. KC is currently the #1 seed and the only AFC team to have currently clinched a spot.

Cincinnati has the tougher schedule because they have KC on their schedule. The fact that some of their fans think they are going to beat/destroy KC is the height of arrogance they accuse KC fans of. They are a good young team and I like how their roster is built, especially at the QB position, but respect is earned and they haven't done anything yet to justify that.

smithandrew051 12-27-2021 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16037574)
This is like the beginning of a high school dance and we're just waiting for that first guy to walk across the gym and say hi.

We should send one of our best over there. Someone with dignity, class…a true positive role model of what it means to be a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs. Someone who is understanding of our differences with other fan bases. Someone who exemplifies good sportsmanship and would never say something that might be offensive or derogatory.

I nominate carcosa or Jewish Rabbi to be our ambassador.

Chiefspants 12-27-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16037574)
This is like the beginning of a high school dance and we're just waiting for that first guy to walk across the gym and say hi.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WealthyAri...restricted.gif

tredadda 12-27-2021 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16037582)
We should send one of our best over there. Someone with dignity, class…a true positive role model of what it means to be a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs. Someone who is understanding of our differences with other fan bases. Someone who exemplifies good sportsmanship and would never say something that might be offensive or derogatory.

I nominate carcosa or Jewish Rabbi to be our ambassador.

Clay makes a good troll also.

Bearcat 12-27-2021 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16037577)
My personal favorite is when they call us arrogant. I guess we are supposed to defer to their greatness because because they blew out a depleted Ravens team.

KC has lost 10 games in three years COMBINED. KC has hosted three straight AFCCGs which no team in AFC history can say. They have been to back to back SBs and were an offsides from three straight SBs. KC was an injured OLine and questionable calls from probably being back to back champs. KC is currently the #1 seed and the only AFC team to have currently clinched a spot.

Cincinnati has the tougher schedule because they have KC on their schedule. The fact that some of their fans think they are going to beat/destroy KC is the height of arrogance they accuse KC fans of. They are a good young team and I like how their roster is built, especially at the QB position, but respect is earned and they haven't done anything yet to justify that.

To be fair though, we were in their shoes prior to 2018.

We celebrated beating the Patriots in September like we had just won the Super Bowl, then would say Patriots fans were arrogant assholes because they brushed it off.

We would read PatriotsPlanet and call them all smug entitled assholes because they were very confident, and now we read how we're the arrogant assholes.

I was looking for a post I made to diqlix last year, but couldn't find it.... it's the circle of life though, one we hadn't experienced in decades as Chiefs fans.

Molitoth 12-27-2021 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16037604)
To be fair though, we were in their shoes prior to 2018.

We celebrated beating the Patriots in September like we had just won the Super Bowl, then would say Patriots fans were arrogant assholes because they brushed it off.

We would read PatriotsPlanet and call them all smug entitled assholes because they were very confident, and now we read how we're the arrogant assholes.

I was looking for a post I made to diqlix last year, but couldn't find it.... it's the circle of life though, one we hadn't experienced in decades as Chiefs fans.

Pretty much this.

...and I'd love to defend the Chiefs fanbase, but I witnessed our own saying things such as:

-If Mahomes would spend less time doing commercials, he wouldn't suck.
-Mahomes needs benched.
-Mahomes is broken.
-Mahomes should be studying film instead of hanging out with his family.

Chiefs Kingdom has it's fair share of complete shitheads.

smithandrew051 12-27-2021 06:55 PM

I’ve seen a lot of posts about how the Bengals run the ball well. Can someone explain this to me?

Rushing Yards: 1,603 (11th worst in the league)
Yards Per Carry: 4.0 (T 6th worst in the league)
20+ Yard Runs: 8
40+ Yard Runs: 1
Longest Run: 46 Yards
Rushing First Downs: 85 (10th worst in the league)

Mixon is fine, but his stats are nothing all that special either. He’s only been over 4.5 yards per carry 5 times this season. He’s also been held under 4 yards per carry in each of their last 4 games. He’s had 3 really good games running the ball this year (Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, Minnesota). Steelers have allowed the most rushing yards this year, Vikings have allowed the 5th most, and Raiders have allowed the 14th most. They also played the Raiders right after we ruined them, so they likely didn’t even see the best version of the Raiders.

His other performances have been pretty meh.

Sure seems like they have a bottom 3rd rushing offense. I don’t see a stat that says otherwise.

tredadda 12-27-2021 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16037604)
To be fair though, we were in their shoes prior to 2018.

We celebrated beating the Patriots in September like we had just won the Super Bowl, then would say Patriots fans were arrogant assholes because they brushed it off.

We would read PatriotsPlanet and call them all smug entitled assholes because they were very confident, and now we read how we're the arrogant assholes.

I was looking for a post I made to diqlix last year, but couldn't find it.... it's the circle of life though, one we hadn't experienced in decades as Chiefs fans.

Fair points. I like their team and think they are solid, but to be considered arrogant because of confidence in your team based off of past success rubs me the wrong way. What bothered me was when fans of better teams felt they knew more about football because their team won more. I definitely did not think that about any fanbase.

Halfcan 12-27-2021 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 16037616)
Pretty much this.

...and I'd love to defend the Chiefs fanbase, but I witnessed our own saying things such as:

-If Mahomes would spend less time doing commercials, he wouldn't suck.
-Mahomes needs benched.
-Mahomes is broken.
-Mahomes should be studying film instead of hanging out with his family.

Chiefs Kingdom has it's fair share of complete shitheads.

Yep, it is like they could not wait to run him out of town. Idiots! :shake:

Molitoth 12-27-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16037620)
I don’t see a stat that says otherwise.

Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story.

People see Mahomes INT's and think he sucks... when if you watched the game you would know those passes were fine, and they doinked off WR hands.

This is why football analysts on TV are dumbshits. They watch a few highlights, and check the stat sheet... and then form a quick uneducated opinion and blabber it out to the world.

Hence, "The chiefs are done"... "Mahomes is broken", yadda yadda.

I will admit, I haven't watched a single Bengals game this season. There could be reasons that the Eye test say that Mixon is actually better than whatever stats you find.

Halfcan 12-27-2021 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16037574)
This is like the beginning of a high school dance and we're just waiting for that first guy to walk across the gym and say hi.

We need to send Rain Man over there- everyone loves that guy!

A few days of Rain Man post and they will be changing teams. o:-)

KC_Connection 12-27-2021 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16037620)
I’ve seen a lot of posts about how the Bengals run the ball well. Can someone explain this to me?

Rushing Yards: 1,603 (11th worst in the league)
Yards Per Carry: 4.0 (T 6th worst in the league)
20+ Yard Runs: 8
40+ Yard Runs: 1
Longest Run: 46 Yards
Rushing First Downs: 85 (10th worst in the league)

Mixon is fine, but his stats are nothing all that special either. He’s only been over 4.5 yards per carry 5 times this season. He’s also been held under 4 yards per carry in each of their last 4 games. He’s had 3 really good games running the ball this year (Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, Minnesota). Steelers have allowed the most rushing yards this year, Vikings have allowed the 5th most, and Raiders have allowed the 14th most. They also played the Raiders right after we ruined them, so they likely didn’t even see the best version of the Raiders.

His other performances have been pretty meh.

Sure seems like they have a bottom 3rd rushing offense. I don’t see a stat that says otherwise.

The Bengals were 23rd in rushing offensive DVOA heading into last week and 20th in passing offensive DVOA. The Bengals are not good.

Bearcat 12-27-2021 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16037623)
Fair points. I like their team and think they are solid, but to be considered arrogant because of confidence in your team based off of past success rubs me the wrong way. What bothered me was when fans of better teams felt they knew more about football because their team won more. I definitely did not think that about any fanbase.

Reminds me of last year, between Bills fans showing up and Browns fans showing up.

Bills fans came here to troll first and foremost, but even looking at the forum they came from, they were incredibly naive 'born yesterday' type of fans who thought they would be handed a Lombardi because they could put up 50 points on some 5 win team. I'm sure we came off as arrogant assholes, mostly because they stormed into our house and took a giant dump in the living room... but, also because they seriously knew nothing about football.

Browns fans showed up and almost all of them were respectful and wanted to talk football, and also knew one 11-win season didn't mean they were guaranteed playoff success.... they had been around and seen some shit, and we all seemed to be on the same level.

And reading the Bengals board, I'd say they're far closer to the Browns fans who showed up... they're happy to be watching a winning team and excited to see what the Bengals can do this weekend. I didn't get the sense they all of a sudden believe they're going to take the league by storm.

Pablo 12-27-2021 07:14 PM

The only sports team anybody gives a shit about in that state is the Buckeyes. And they got pasted by Michigan and haven't won a title since what like 1999 or something?

Cincy is just north Kentucky with diarrhea chili and apparently really impressive high school football!!!

They will learn by the numbers. We will teach them.

Chiefspants 12-27-2021 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 16037642)
Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story.

People see Mahomes INT's and think he sucks... when if you watched the game you would know those passes were fine, and they doinked off WR hands.

This is why football analysts on TV are dumbshits. They watch a few highlights, and check the stat sheet... and then form a quick uneducated opinion and blabber it out to the world.

Hence, "The chiefs are done"... "Mahomes is broken", yadda yadda.

I will admit, I haven't watched a single Bengals game this season. There could be reasons that the Eye test say that Mixon is actually better than whatever stats you find.

I watched them against the Broncos and Chargers.

I know they're better than those outings - and that when they click, they can be really good. I just see someone like Chris Jones potentially being as game-breaking to their high-flying offense as he was to the Cowboys. Dak was going to put up 40 on us, he ended up getting 9.

Basically it seems like their board is hoping Burrow goes into the Avatar State for the whole game to beat us. Unlike a lot of QB's, he does have the talent do it, and Jones could always have an off day, but it puts a whole lot on their young QB and rarely can they do it alone.

Now, COVID could wreck our team and change the situation dramatically. And as Burrow said, because Cincy has no nightlife (Applebee's excluded), the Bengals are pretty safe from COVID.

KC_Connection 12-27-2021 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 16037616)
Pretty much this.

...and I'd love to defend the Chiefs fanbase, but I witnessed our own saying things such as:

-If Mahomes would spend less time doing commercials, he wouldn't suck.
-Mahomes needs benched.
-Mahomes is broken.
-Mahomes should be studying film instead of hanging out with his family.

Chiefs Kingdom has it's fair share of complete shitheads.

Mustn't forget that Mahomes is a gimmick QB.

Chiefspants 12-27-2021 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16037664)
Mustn't forget that Mahomes is a gimmick QB.

"Flash in the pan"

Halfcan 12-27-2021 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16037656)
I watched them against the Broncos and Chargers.

I know they're better than those outings - and that when they click, they can be really good. I just see someone like Chris Jones potentially being as game-breaking to their high-flying offense as he was to the Cowboys. Dak was going to put up 40 on us, he ended up getting 9.

Basically it seems like their board is hoping Burrow goes into the Avatar State for the whole game to beat us. Unlike a lot of QB's, he does have the talent do it, and Jones could always have an off day, but it puts a whole lot on their young QB and rarely can they do it alone.

Now, COVID could wreck our team and change the situation dramatically. And as Burrow said, because Cincy has no nightlife (Applebee's excluded), the Bengals are pretty safe from COVID.

Except they are Not. Covid is already in their QB room- their backup was put on the list today.

Burrow will be tested as a "Close Contact" --so we will see what happens.

tredadda 12-27-2021 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16037653)
Reminds me of last year, between Bills fans showing up and Browns fans showing up.

Bills fans came here to troll first and foremost, but even looking at the forum they came from, they were incredibly naive 'born yesterday' type of fans who thought they would be handed a Lombardi because they could put up 50 points on some 5 win team. I'm sure we came off as arrogant assholes, mostly because they stormed into our house and took a giant dump in the living room... but, also because they seriously knew nothing about football.

Browns fans showed up and almost all of them were respectful and wanted to talk football, and also knew one 11-win season didn't mean they were guaranteed playoff success.... they had been around and seen some shit, and we all seemed to be on the same level.

And reading the Bengals board, I'd say they're far closer to the Browns fans who showed up... they're happy to be watching a winning team and excited to see what the Bengals can do this weekend. I didn't get the sense they all of a sudden believe they're going to take the league by storm.

I agree with that part. My issues were primarily with those who felt we were arrogant. That and the "area smack" people (although we have some ourselves that do it). I never understood how people develop a sense of superiority based on where they live. I think it's stupid regardless of fanbase.

Halfcan 12-27-2021 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16037664)
Mustn't forget that Mahomes is a gimmick QB.

Mahomes is an Air Raid gunslinger with terrible footwork. Better draft Trubisky- Bears

Chiefspants 12-27-2021 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16037673)
Except they are Not. Covid is already in their QB room- their backup was put on the list today.

Burrow will be tested as a "Close Contact" --so we will see what happens.

I was quoting Burrow in jest, but hot damn, yeah. Omicron be coming for everyone.

Red Dawg 12-27-2021 07:23 PM

They will be highly motivated. They are on the verge of a division title if they win and Pitt loses.

neech 12-27-2021 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16037574)
This is like the beginning of a high school dance and we're just waiting for that first guy to walk across the gym and say hi.

Red rover, red rover, send titty meat on over.

smithandrew051 12-27-2021 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16037650)
The Bengals were 23rd in rushing offensive DVOA heading into last week and 20th in passing offensive DVOA. The Bengals are not good.

I didn’t check DVOA, but I’m not surprised to see this.

They don’t have a rushing stat that jumps out as any better than bottom 10.

Their pass protection is the worst in the league. I’m pretty sure DVOA accounts for that as part of the passing offensive ranking.

Those rankings sound about right.

Willie Gay has been exceptional at tracking down running plays from the back side, so Gay will be really effective this week.

notorious 12-27-2021 07:30 PM

Damnit, Cincy fan is as good as they come.

They have a good team after years of struggle. They have stuck with their team through shit that would horrify even us and our playoff freak show losses.

They get nothing but respect and support from me.

RetiredSeniorChief 12-27-2021 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16037673)
Except they are Not. Covid is already in their QB room- their backup was put on the list today.

Burrow will be tested as a "Close Contact" --so we will see what happens.

I guess Applebee's didn't make him wear a mask until he got to his table.

Megatron96 12-27-2021 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16037696)
I didn’t check DVOA, but I’m not surprised to see this.

They don’t have a rushing stat that jumps out as any better than bottom 10.

Their pass protection is the worst in the league. I’m pretty sure DVOA accounts for that as part of the passing offensive ranking.

Those rankings sound about right.

Willie Gay has been exceptional at tracking down running plays from the back side. Mixon isn’t a burner, so Gay will be really effective this week.

They give up more than their share of sacks, that's certain. But Burrow seems largely unflustered even when sacked multiple times in a game. One of the many things I like about him, and a principal reason i think he'll become a top-10 QB someday, provided CIN actually gets him an OL soon.

But my gut says Burrow will struggle early vs. our defense, which is unlike anything he's seen before, even very different than the defense we had last time we played CIN, pre-Burrow.

And then there's the simple fact they can't stop any TEs they've played this year.

How do they think their D is going to fare against the best TE in the game (maybe the best ever)?

Halfcan 12-27-2021 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 16037710)
I guess Applebee's didn't make him wear a mask until he got to his table.

ROFL

Yep, guess not!

Pablo 12-27-2021 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16037701)
Damnit, Cincy fan is as good as they come.

They have a good team after years of struggle. They have stuck with their team through shit that would horrify even us and our playoff freak show losses.

They get nothing but respect and support from me.

Yeah I’d really much rather see them run that division than the godawful criminal ratbirds or Stoolers with their jizz rags. But it is tradition that we shit on any fanbase that we play.

Chris Meck 12-27-2021 07:46 PM

Other than like one dude over on that board, they all seemed pretty realistic.

there's the one dude going all full Clay, but everyone else is like...."well, they should be confident."

smithandrew051 12-27-2021 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16037735)
Other than like one dude over on that board, they all seemed pretty realistic.

there's the one dude going all full Clay, but everyone else is like...."well, they should be confident."

THEY ARE PIECES OF SHIT!!!!!!

Bearcat 12-27-2021 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16037675)
I agree with that part. My issues were primarily with those who felt we were arrogant. That and the "area smack" people (although we have some ourselves that do it). I never understood how people develop a sense of superiority based on where they live. I think it's stupid regardless of fanbase.

Yeah, area trash talk is strange, especially when something like 80-90% of people live within 2 hours of where they grew up.

Look at these idiots, growing up in a different part of the country! Losers!

:spock:

And it's not like it's Green Bay versus San Diego (where everyone would rationalize why they live in each location and what sucks about each location anyway).... I've never been to Cincinnati, but would guess it's very much like Kansas City in many aspects, given they have almost identical populations with I assume very similar weather in flyover country.

notorious 12-27-2021 07:52 PM

Quote:

NotBigzo Wrote:
Bunch of depraved degenerates over there with names like “titty meat”
They've already nailed us.

Rainbarrel 12-27-2021 08:03 PM

They don't have players named Bud, Buster or Jackrabbit, there is that.

Pablo 12-27-2021 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16037747)
They've already nailed us.

I wonder if any of them will let big bill peg them? I sure hope so

Is it pegging if it’s a guy ****ing another guy with his real dick or is that just called making skyline chili?

wisconsinchief 12-27-2021 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16036032)
Put Mahomes in a cabin in Antarctica and fly him in on Sundays for the rest of the year.

LMAO

Patty Moans 12-27-2021 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16036004)
Everything in ohio sucks ass.

And here's the idiot post for the week. No sense in bashing a state until you examine our own:
Missouri is hazardous. It is recommended to be avoided in many travel guides due to the bigotry and rampant prejudice.
:banghead:
5th rated worst state
Show Me how to stay safe in Missouri, where violent crime in all categories has been rising, in some cases by double digits. Missouri also lacks statewide protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation, marital status, and gender identity. And the state is near the bottom for public health funding.

2017 Quality of Life score: 99 out of 300 points
Weaknesses: Crime rate, health, inclusiveness
Strength: Attractions
2016 Quality of Life rank: No. 49



The arrogance this fan base shows is sad. It's great to be proud of our team but stuff like this is a blight on fandom. From a fellow KC citizen, grow the hell up.

Chiefspants 12-27-2021 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty Moans (Post 16037880)
And here's the idiot post for the week. No sense in bashing a state until you examine our own:
Missouri is hazardous. It is recommended to be avoided in many travel guides due to the bigotry and rampant prejudice.
:banghead:
5th rated worst state
Show Me how to stay safe in Missouri, where violent crime in all categories has been rising, in some cases by double digits. Missouri also lacks statewide protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation, marital status, and gender identity. And the state is near the bottom for public health funding.

2017 Quality of Life score: 99 out of 300 points
Weaknesses: Crime rate, health, inclusiveness
Strength: Attractions
2016 Quality of Life rank: No. 49



The arrogance this fan base shows is sad. It's great to be proud of our team but stuff like this is a blight on fandom. From a fellow KC citizen, grow the hell up.

You are clearly a citizen of KC. So much so that you were compelled to make an account to defend Ohio’s honor.

eDave 12-27-2021 08:50 PM

You think Bengals are going to win?

Pablo 12-27-2021 08:51 PM

Give me the best ribs best burnt ends and best side if you live here


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