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MahomesMagic 03-30-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16224509)
Drake London.

I want height and size. Sick of relying on little guys with speed to beat press coverage in the playoffs.

If we want him, need a big move up. He'll go pretty early.

The Franchise 03-30-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16224603)
Genuinely curious: how many layers come back the same after this injury? Cam Akers didn’t. He wasn’t good

Just because he came back and wasn't that great in his first couple of games back....doesn't mean anything when it comes to Ojabo.

I'm drafting Ojabo to sit him for his entire rookie year.

staylor26 03-30-2022 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16224604)
As interesting as that sounds, I'd almost rather wait to take another edge in the 2nd round.

Nah, get your 2 high upside guys with 5th year options and be done with it.

I have to say though, Williams is a guy that’s getting zero 1st round buzz. Literally zero.

That’s why I don’t even consider him despite being a big fan that would be happy with the pick.

Now at 50? Then I can see us taking Williams.

Toad 03-30-2022 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16224604)
As interesting as that sounds, I'd almost rather wait to take another edge in the 2nd round.

Truth be told, may be able to get Sam I Am at 50, but I wouldn’t take the chance personally.

The Franchise 03-30-2022 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16224611)
Nah, get your 2 high upside guys with 5th year options and be done with it.

I have to say though, Williams is a guy that’s getting zero 1st round buzz. Literally zero.

That’s why I don’t even consider him despite being a big fan that would be happy with the pick.

Now at 50? Then I can see us taking Williams.

There are always guys that sneak in as it gets closer to the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if Williams is the pick at 29 or 30.

RunKC 03-30-2022 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16224609)
Just because he came back and wasn't that great in his first couple of games back....doesn't mean anything when it comes to Ojabo.

I'm drafting Ojabo to sit him for his entire rookie year.

Why would you do that when you can just draft Sam Williams? You’re losing a year and have no clue how he comes back after that?

I wouldn’t spend a top 50 pick on that

staylor26 03-30-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16224615)
There are always guys that sneak in as it gets closer to the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if Williams is the pick at 29 or 30.

Oh, I wouldn’t be surprised either, but with the off the field stuff and the lack of 1st round buzz, it still seems very unlikely.

The Franchise 03-30-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16224617)
Why would you do that when you can just draft Sam Williams? You’re losing a year and have no clue how he comes back after that?

I wouldn’t spend a top 50 pick on that

Because you have a shot at a top 20 talent at the end of the first round? Because we need more than one DE moving forward after this season?

How much of Akers looking rusty is because he came back way earlier than everyone thought?

RunKC 03-30-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16224611)
Nah, get your 2 high upside guys with 5th year options and be done with it.

I have to say though, Williams is a guy that’s getting zero 1st round buzz. Literally zero.

That’s why I don’t even consider him despite being a big fan that would be happy with the pick.

Now at 50? Then I can see us taking Williams.

This is why:

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He was arrested in July of 2020 for alleged sexual battery and suspended from the team. He would be reinstated when the charges were dropped. Since then he seems to have kept himself out of trouble, but it is something that will hurt his draft stock with some teams, not the Chiefs though.
IDGAF. Charges dropped. We good!

staylor26 03-30-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16224617)
Why would you do that when you can just draft Sam Williams? You’re losing a year and have no clue how he comes back after that?

I wouldn’t spend a top 50 pick on that

The chances of him not being able to come back from that injury long term are very slim and he’s a top 15 talent.

You aren’t going to get guys like that unless you’re willing to take some risk.

Again, I know we all love Williams, but I don’t think he’s a very realistic pick there. It sounds great, but I don’t think it’s in the cards.

But if we’re going to dream, why not both?

staylor26 03-30-2022 02:42 PM

IDGAF either.

That’s irrelevant though.

The teams do, and he appears to firmly be a 2nd rounder because of it.

O.city 03-30-2022 02:46 PM

Jordan Davis is up there for me. I think he's Haloti Ngata 2.0

RunKC 03-30-2022 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16224622)
The chances of him not being able to come back from that injury long term are very slim and he’s a top 15 talent.

You aren’t going to get guys like that unless you’re willing to take some risk.

Again, I know we all love Williams, but I don’t think he’s a very realistic pick there. It sounds great, but I don’t think it’s in the cards.

But if we’re going to dream, why not both?

Because I want Jalen Pitre too goddamnit!

CatfishBob2 03-30-2022 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16219806)
Why? You don’t want to draft a talent like him bc he can’t play week 1? I’d look at Travis Kelce as an example of that being a foolish idea.

I do think he can come back in October though. He had surgery in mid January and already said he was ahead of schedule.

George Pickens came back after 8 months and looked normal at 10 months against Bama. ACL injuries used to be closer to 12 months on the 9-12 month timeline but I think modern medicine has pushed that to now be closer to 9 months standard

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16224629)
IDGAF either.

That’s irrelevant though.

The teams do, and he appears to firmly be a 2nd rounder because of it.

According to who? Off field issues aside, where does Williams rank among the rest of the DE's

Tribal Warfare 03-30-2022 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16224633)
Jordan Davis is up there for me. I think he's Haloti Ngata 2.0


Or Prime Poe

Couch-Potato 03-31-2022 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16224509)
Drake London.

I want height and size. Sick of relying on little guys with speed to beat press coverage in the playoffs.

I would rather have Trey Burks after watching both receiver's tape. London is always contested, doesn't separate well. Burks can take it to the house any play with the ball in his hands, looks like a mini-DK Metcalf out there!

Chris Meck 03-31-2022 06:02 AM

London?

Nah. I don't want a WR who literally will not run a 40 to be timed, or any agility drills.

Huge red flag.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-04-2022 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16225333)
I would rather have Trey Burks after watching both receiver's tape. London is always contested, doesn't separate well. Burks can take it to the house any play with the ball in his hands, looks like a mini-DK Metcalf out there!

Yep, this is the one guy who - if we don't have to trade up to get him - I'd hate to see us not grab.

htismaqe 04-04-2022 12:35 PM

I really like Burks a lot. I think he'd be a weapon in this offense.

The Franchise 04-04-2022 12:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Montana State’s Troy Andersen, the Combine’s fastest LB at 4.42 official, just hit 3.99 SS &amp; 6.72 3C at pro-day. Andersen didn’t do shuttles at Combine and both of times are significantly faster than any LB at Indy. Andersen continues crush pre-draft process from Mobile➡️today.�� <a href="https://t.co/b7HPFUzGnl">pic.twitter.com/b7HPFUzGnl</a></p>&mdash; Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1511041309330620418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So he’s a 2nd round pick now, right?

duncan_idaho 04-04-2022 01:02 PM

Burks does a lot of things I really like.

My only concerns with him are:

1) Is he quick/sudden enough to run routes in the NFL and in an Andy Reid offense? He looks stiff and awkward at times (really needs space/time to build up speed).

2) Will his body/play style hold up to the NFL rigor and pounding? This is a guy who takes a lot of hits and runs through contact a lot more than making guys miss.

CatfishBob2 04-04-2022 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16231434)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Montana State’s Troy Andersen, the Combine’s fastest LB at 4.42 official, just hit 3.99 SS &amp; 6.72 3C at pro-day. Andersen didn’t do shuttles at Combine and both of times are significantly faster than any LB at Indy. Andersen continues crush pre-draft process from Mobile➡️today.�� <a href="https://t.co/b7HPFUzGnl">pic.twitter.com/b7HPFUzGnl</a></p>&mdash; Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1511041309330620418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So he’s a 2nd round pick now, right?

Grabbing an LB in the draft would be nice but I think the guy we signed from Carolina is our starter. We can sign more depth for cheap or wait til the fifth round or so for one


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