30 mil for a guy who has 7 picks in 4 years and is the leader of the one of the worst defenses in recent history for the past 2 years?

shoulda just gave that money to Dirty Dan amiright!

fixed that for you,. . chief fans have a very short memory. .

speaking of Dirty Dan..this bum couldnt even shake an open field tackle from Dirty Dan to all but put us away
...ammiiiright??

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I actually don't mind Dirty Dan, he makes big plays sometimes. Even though he was one of the worst ever for the first 6 games. Honey Badger wants too much money and doesn't like the fans here and he kinda disappeared last season. Justin Reid's contract isn't a huge risk or anything, the Texans sucked last year all around. Hopefully he works out for us, we needed a safety and signed one. I prefer that to paying Mathieu $100 mill like he thinks he deserves. Hopefully we don't rely on Justin Reid for his ball carrying skills...

yeah HB prob was asking too much but I heard they didnt even make an offer..

i do wonder if his twitter antics and callign ouyt the fans had something to do with it. .

the way he uses twitter he would fit in perfectly on this site. .it was a bit exhausting watching his tweets. .

Are you seriously deciding Justin Reid's worth on a trick play that 2019 Dirty Dan read the whole way?

Like, you could find footage of him getting burned and actually being a liability in coverage and I would maybe agree with you, but instead your argument is he got stuffed on a trick play so he actually sucks?

I guess he doesn't trust safeties that can't also be good running backs if required

this and Juju are really good signings.

What we are seeing here on CP is a bunch of posters that had their favorites targeted for FA and when Veach signed someone else, they're throwing little hissy-fits.

It's silly and childish.

We're better today than we were a few days ago.

We'll need a couple of decent DE's. Maybe a RT. Then the draft is wide open. This draft, too, is deep in our exact positions of need. Everything this fine.

I personally liked Robinson and Landry more but Juju works too.

To me what is strange are the Chark fans. He's Chris Conley. Which is nice but...

Maybe, but it might also be that half of the people are judging Reid on his first 2 years and half on his last 2. We're definitely bigger and faster with Reid and if he shows his rookie form it's a great deal. But the last 2 years he's been pretty s**t. You can like or dislike the move, seems both are fairly legit positions.

Justin Reid plays defense

Yip.

Losing Ward hurts! He was damn good last year. Got better every year in my opinion. And we let him go why? If I see Nieman, Sorenson, Watts, or the DE from the Saints (forget his name) I'm gonna puke. We are worse off than last year after free agency. Looking forward to the draft.

It’s not just that.

There are some posters here who just feed off of negativity. They’re never here when things are great, only when they’re bad (or perceived that way).

I have an answer for you, but you're not going to agree. It's apparent that Veach does, though, and so here's the answer:

In the current NFL, a boundary corner isn't allowed to do much of anything at all except run alongside a receiver. Any contact at all can be called as interference at any time. SO-why pay big money for a boundary corner?

It's true that Ward is a pretty good player. It's also true that Chase roasted him alive despite Ward having pretty good position nearly all game long. So why do you pay that position big money for results like that?

Better to put your resources on the defensive line to improve your pass rush, and pay your inside secondary players that have versatile skillsets. Rush the passer well, and confuse the passer with different pre-snap looks. That's the only way the NFL will allow you to play defense these days.

And before you say- "yeah well, Chase is elite"-we now look at Davante Adams twice a year, and Mike Williams, will see Diggs and Chase and co. in the play-offs, and so on, and so on, and so on. If you can't keep those guys from the ball, how about you focus on harassing and confusing the QB's into making mistakes instead?

Once you realize that DTVietnam is a ****ing moron….you’ll stop trying to argue with him so much.

The Chiefs cap isn't structured to pay a CB what Ward got.

I'm really happy with the Reid signing. He's interchangeable and can play single-high. I like him better at SS than FS but that's probably just personal preference. Not going to worry much about a guy that can fly downhill and stick someone in run defense. I think he fits well.

He's not the slot defender Mathieu was, but Mathieu also had his own limitations.

I think it just means that Spags will employ his safeties a bit differently than he has with Mathieu. Of course, there is still the off-chance that the Chiefs take more of a pure cover safety in the draft yet like Dax Hill (if he falls), Jalen Pitre, Verone McKinley, etc and Thornhill changes roles a bit or back to the bench.

There are no good edge rushers left in FA and the draft is hit or miss. Plus we don't play rookies much at all the their 1st year. Ward was good against the run too. Ward was only flagged twice last year for interference. Ward never had safety help last year. Ward was always tight on his man. Wait till you see the seperation from whoever we line up at his spot next year....then you will see how good Ward was. The "potential" for penalties has never, and will never, decide a players fate. We groomed Ward for four years only to see him leave first chance he gets? No, Veech just f***ed up!

I'm really surprised how cheap both Ward and JC Jackson were. Jackson was 16.5 APY and Ward was 14... I'd have paid either that easily. I like the signings Veach did make and it's apparent they still value safeties much more than corners. I'm most concerned penciling in Fenton as CB2 at this point but maybe he surprises me.

Still some good options on the edge... Clowney and Smith don't suck. There's some good ones to take chances on like Greene, Key, Carter, etc.

Clowney was offered 24 mil for 2 years from Cleveland..

It feels like half the AFC just went all in at the same time.

Yeah I agree. There are players I would have liked over Reid and juju, but they're both still good, solid additions.

Didn't see it on the NFL site, must be fresh?

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Dude, it's March. We don't play tomorrow.

and after four straight AFCCGs, two SB appearances, one championship, you really think Brett Veach doesn't have a plan?

I told you that you wouldn't agree with the reason, but it seems pretty apparent that Veach does not value outside corners like you do. Some teams do, some don't. I happen to agree with Veach. Ward was tight on Chase all game long, too, and what difference did it make? None. Chase had a record setting day almost entirely on contested catches. So what's the point?

It's March. Remember last year in March? When we had no offensive tackles and not a single quality starting offensive lineman?

Wait and see. I guarantee you this is not the team that will line up in September.

Btw this guy will be all pro first year book it

I agree, but we signed Joe Thuney march 15th...

if my grandmother got tackled by Dirty Dan shed be out of the family. . no professional athlete should be tackled one on one open field by Dirty Dan

but you wanted some defensive lowlights..i dont watch much texans football but i remmebr this play: i just remember the times i watched him against the Chiefs

he didnt look like he wanted any part of contact on this play/.isnt that what the Tyann complaining was about?

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beat by a TE with a RB throwing the ball:

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Chargers put him on skates again. . .

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You’d get tackled by Sorensen.

Some people are never happy. Every player will get beat and every player will make good plays. I’m sure Reid’s good play will out number his bad ones by a mile.

Now post all of Mathieu’s business decisions this year…

Chiefs gave away one of the greatest Chiefs in history for an average saftey. .

its a lateral move and leadership wise a step back. .

its funny people put together a 2 minute video with the players best plays from 4 years including preseason and everyone think that player can ball.. .
I could put togethjer a 3 minute video of Dirty Dan and he would look like a first ballot hall of famer. . hes played well at times.. but is dirty dan good?

but the sec ond u put up some bad tape uyoure a hater

go watch a Texans game start to finish tell me what you think. . watch their meltdown against us in the playoffs and see what Reid did. . watch them play the chargers..watch them play the Ravens

im going off the few times I watched him play..

not saying that he cant be good..its just that right now he is not good and thats a fact

Texans fans love Reid and are disappointed to see him go.

How much did Tyrann get in his new deal, BTW?

smh.

Man, some of you guys are like little emotional children.

Just relax. It's March. The Chiefs front office and coaching staff have shown they'll put a contender on the field. There are lots of possibilities, and the fact that the only names linked to KC are now Chiefs tells me that there's a plan and it's being carried out. When everything shakes out, we'll be in good shape again, I have zero doubt.

Reid is much more than an 'average safety'. That's asinine.

Juju is much more than a 'plodding possession receiver'. That's dumb.

We filled two holes with young, dynamic players just entering their primes.

It's mid-March. Try to exercise some patience.

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After four straight home AFC Championship games. I will not turn into a spoiled Patriot fan. Repeat

This insult is borderline ban worthy, and I approve

What's the chances of Tyran coming back on the cheap? Having three good S's in Spags's system is a nice plus.

As for Reid, that whole team collapsed after 2018. He'll elevate his game with the superior talent he'll be surrounded by.

I'm a fan if we alternate and don't leave him at single high out on an island.

Zero.

The Chiefs never even offered him a contract. They have no interest in bringing him back.

Not offering a contract and having no interest in bringing him back aren’t mutually exclusive.

Veach was in contact with Tyranns reps during the combine.

They were just too far apart in value to make a formal offer, but there were talks.

I’m not sure I’d want him back at any price at this point, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back on a deal similar to the one he signed in Houston the year before we gave him a 3 year deal.

He's not coming back. That bridge is burned.

I could tell by the way he cried after the AFC game that he was already notified that he wasn't coming back but had to still say all the right shit. I'm guessing we're moving on because Veatch wants to stay young.

I have to say that Justin Reid makes a great impression on the first day of OTA's presser that he did.

It was several days ago but it is a good watch if you have not checked it out yet.

Yeah, if he is half as good on the field as he has been off of it, it's all good.

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Stud.

Side Note: Looks like Malik Herring is getting some reps with the 1s.

Any idea where Herring would have been drafted but for the Senior Bowl ACL tear?

To be totally fair, the previous video from Chiefs twitter was Reid getting beat by Omar Bayless for a TD.

Not that any of this means anything lol. But i'm addicted to it.

I've heard 4,5 or 6 a few places. He just wasnt terribly athletic or bendy but did produce. Pretty typical spags big strong type end. Thats just hearsay im not an evaluator so dont @ me if you disagree.

Probably no earlier than the 5th, but who knows?

He was having a pretty good Senior Bowl until the injury from what I remember. Could’ve raised his stock throughout the process.

His tape was pretty good.

Like Karlaftis, he’s a really good fit at SDE.

not really impressed so far

Way better than Tyrann last year...

A low bar. Have to agree though. He hasn’t been hood manned up in my opinion. It may not be all the time but there have been several times he’s been juked out of his shoes on a route.

He's just not that guy. He's a solid, consistent player, and that's it. not going to wow anyone, at least not very often. But he won't shit down his leg very often either.

But everyone that thought he'd be an able replacement for Tyrann from 2019 were just fooling themselves. Tyrann was just on a different level than Justin. Not Justin's fault, just that's what it always was.

I mentioned this in a thread after the game.

He started out fine but has dropped off the map. No idea what the hell is going on. I search for his number on every replay to see if he is even playing. He is usually the guy with the first missed tackle or whiff.

And yet he's #3 on the team in tackles (behind Bolton and Snead). In fact, he's on pace to break his season record in that stat.

He's fine. As others have said, he's just not flashy.

He and Thornhill have been solid.

We've rarely seen blown coverages this season. I mean, i can't think of any egregiously blown coverages off the top of my head, can you? There can't be many.

Seems like most the time we get beat it's from a guy being a step slow or just jump balls down the sideline.

Yeah i expected maybe a little more in terms of turnovers and game changing plays, but i'll take little to no blown coverages any day of the week.

Especially compared to last season.

A large percentage of deep catches this season were the product of either perfect passes or incredible catches, or both. We've played some really good receivers this season, and some pure passers as well. They're going to get theirs now and again.

The announcers really suck then at mentioning his name on tackles. I swear I think I've heard his name like 3 times in the last 4 weeks.

The defense is way better than last season, and Reid is a part of that.

We are stacked, and it’s only going to get better.

Most safeties aren't jump-off-the-screen impact players. For the vast majority of them, if you don't notice them, they're generally doing a decent job.

I can't act like I've been watching film or anything but I don't hate this guy yet so that's a good sign. He seems decent enough.

True, Reid is a solid player and not a play maker. The one thing about Reid is he misses his fair share of open tackles. If he gets a hold of the guy, he will usually make it though.

Nobody is talking about him because he’s doing his job.

He’s solid.

He's nothing special. I don't see him getting beat often though.

I miss DeBerg.

Juan Thornhill has regressed. I’m not sure what the problem is with him.

Man, Skyy had a good game, Hardman is on IR, CEH is out for a while.

People are just scrambling for who to bitch about now.

He’s been targeted 36 times in coverage and gave up 27 catches. 114 rating into his coverage.

I’m still not a big fan, but those #s aren’t solid.

With Juan hurt, Reid will get more looks so I hope he’s ready for that increased workload.

I am pretty certain that he is the leader of our secondary. That is a very young group and they rarely seem out of position.

No one is bitching. Just talking football.

They did great 2nd half but 1st half was pretty bad. Overall, i think they are doing good.

Mistakes will happen. Especially starting three rookie CBs. I do agree though.

I’d like to see more bush

You should try and find some old Hustlers or a Playboy from the 70's or 80's.

Yeah. When we get beat, it's usually just a perfect throw or the WR out muscling/jumping out corners.

There was a blown coverage last name but I think that was on Joshua Williams not the safeties.

it's probably a good thing you haven't noticed him much, at least I haven't. You definitely noticed dirty dan when he ****ed up and other shit safeties we've had in the past.

I'm not sure they have been. For me the weakness in the secondary is these guys. Getting rid of Sorensen masks some of the poor play because it's not nearly as egregious. But there are lots of whiffed tackles and loose coverage plays. Thornhill in particular.

As far as talent goes they're plus guys but that's what makes it frustrating. Thornhill has one good season followed by turd. I said the Reid deal would depend on which version we got. So far we've got closer to the last 2 years version.

I reckon they'll find out the right usage for Reid in the end. I also think Thornhill will piss me off and become a Pro Bowler on another team. But it won't be this one. I'd let him walk in FA without a second thought.

He’s caught a case of the Sorensons