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Why doesn't the media ever mention that the Chargers play ZERO home games all season?

Are they not allowed to mention that?

No, they are not. LMAO

If you've ever seen the NFL Memes for mock drafts and what not, they will have something like....
Jets 1st pick -- Someone who will be out of the league in 2 years
Chiefs 1st pick -- the fastest person to every put on a football uniform
Raiders 1st pick -- someone who will get a DUI within 48 hours of being drafted


I feel like these lists have the same templates to them and they just plug in teams from there.
Power Rankings Template
#1 -- {Insert a good playoff contender that hasn't been to the SB in decades that will really tick off other fans}
#2 -- {Insert previous SB champ to trigger previous SB champs}

#3 -- {Insert another good playoff contender to trigger SB runner up}
#4 -- {Insert previous SB runner up to trigger SB runner up}

#5 -- {Insert surprise team from last year's playoffs who has just as good of a shot at ending up in last place}

...#8 -- {Insert sub-.500 team for hype and clicks}

I'm glad we play Cinci in Cinci because we got two Chiefs that will get to show off in front of their native land Travis Kelce and Hard Hitting Safety Bryan Cook

I just want Joe Burrow to meet George Karlaftis several times in the backfield.
I'm sure Patrick will want redemption with a vengeance that game and no mercy.

Oh, I am counting on it! Beat Burrow in his house needs to be a revenge game and a statement that the Chiefs are BAAAAAAAAAAAACK! I want a COMPLETE DOMINATION in all 3 phases. I WANT THIS! :evil:

I can see KC having some growing pains early in the year with all the moving pieces, but by week 7-9, this teams gonna be playing at a very high level and should be red hot going into the playoffs with lots of big time weapons that should help us win against the top teams.

Against himself for not showing up in the 2nd half?
The Bengals didn't even beat us, our own offense did.

That's why I said redemption with a vengeance. To redeem himself of that second half and with vengeance. To show how superior he/we are. I hope that game is early so we can get the W and move on and not let that be a dark cloud over our heads all season. I'd say redemption for not playing like himself in the second half but it is important get that behind us. We curb stomp the Bengals and maybe do the same in the playoffs Im not sure Bengals will make the playoffs I think that was a fluke year but never know Burrow proved himself but Im still not sold on him and I think Allen is over hyped too.

Yeah Cowherd having the Broncos as the 2nd best team in football. Winning the division. I'm just not seeing that leap in logic.

I still don't trust any of other coaches

Boy wonder
Rookie
And a Bill underling don't fill me with dread despite flashy roster moves

If not, the talking heads will be spewing that Burrows owns Mahomes.

Or if so Mahomes will be the crown jewel of the NFL. We don't have to beat them by a large margin but just beat them and make Burrow hurt when he scrambles for yards. A few sacks also. Mahomes is still better than Burrow. I think he will be more focused on that game particular.

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I'm just not sold on Chargers coach to get them there but he could be our new Norve Turner so I hope he doesn't suck too bad to get himself fired right away.


I think every one has Donks over rated just because they got Russell Willson whoopty do he hasn't been back to the playoffs since 2016 and lost to the Panthers 31-24 that's a 6 year doubt. If he doesn't have a strong defense then he is dead in the water. He is also going get hit a lot and wont like playing in the altitude and cold November December and January. Those hits hurt a lot more in the cold.

Delivery guy just now was a Raiders fan, asked me if we "still think we'll win the division without Honey badger and Tyreek?" Let him know that "we feel solid" and he suggested that we'd be good "as long as you have Andy."

Satisfying.

We can all breathe a sigh of relief now that the delivery guy has weighed in.

Sorry to be circling back around to this...but for what it's worth, the Bengals have the 3rd most difficult schedule at this point in the off season. Of course, that will change, based off what a team does to start the 2022 season...I realize that...but to say that the Bengals schedule is garbage is just dumb. Objectively based on 2021 results, they are playing the 3rd most difficult schedule. You're crazy to think that won't affect them. We have the 5th most difficult schedule...but we're used to it. Bengals are not. They might not even make the playoffs. Their division is far more competitive than ours, historically.

Still do not like the expanded playoff format.

Nope. I liked the old system and quality over quantity.

It doesn't matter because we all know the league will expand outside the US inside the next 10 years...

Even with the loss of Tyreek, the Chiefs are still the team to beat.

I think they got a bit complacent last year and took things for granted. So many bounces went against them and history is not likely to repeat that.

It's likely that the Bengals will have the #1 seed due to their division being weak. Doesn't matter because the team coming out of the West will be battle hardened and ready to roll.

In the summer of 2018, I talked to some Raiders fan at a BWW in Pittsburgh, KS. Weirdly, he was a perfectly nice guy and never got stabby.

He really thought it was going to be the Raiders year that year. Chiefs lost Alex Smith and were starting a rookie QB known for being wild and "a project". I told him I dunno, I think this kid's pretty good. I guess we'll see what happens.

To this day it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside picturing that dude watching Mahomes' first few games - realizing he's utterly ****ed for the next 15 years.

I am not so sure about that. Cleveland should be better as long as Watson plays as even with a year off he is a better QB than Baker. The Ravens shouldn’t be as decimated by injuries like they were last year. Pittsburgh will probably be down though. The AFCN will be tougher than expected.

Negative. Not sure how you conclude this. Bengals have a tough road in their division. In fact, I think you can make the case that the Bengals have the toughest road than any of the 2021 division winners. Until the other teams prove it, Chiefs own the West, regardless of how everyone has loaded up. Titans still have the easiest road to the 1 seed. Bills have to contend with Bill and the pesky Dolphins.

I think they've improved, especially on defense. The bottom line is the Chiefs have the best QB in the world and the best HC in the AFC West (top 2 or 3 in the NFL) and I don't think either is particularly close at this point.

The only concern I have is the WR group. I'm not sure they have a good outside WR on the roster unless Hardman balls out at the Z position. JuJu and Moore are slot WR's. MVS is a below average WR (4 years of people trashing him in GB while pushing for Rodgers to get the MVP). Gordon looked out of shape and slow last season. Corey Coleman? Bust trying to make a comeback. Cornell Powell? Didn't even hear about him in camp last year. Fountain? Justyn Ross? The only prototypical X on the team IF he makes it, but probably super raw.

Weak division?

Baltimore is a Super Bowl contender

Pittsburgh is halfway decent QB play (a big if) from being a dangerous team.

Cleveland is dangerous IF (another big if) Watson is allowed to play most of the season.

Best in the West until proven otherwise.

People love to make early season projections on the Chargers and how ‘this’ is finally the year. And then the Chargers charger, every ****ing year. We know how that story ends . . . .

The Raiders were seemingly on the rise back in 2017 and then remembered they were the Raiders. Yeah, they made the playoffs this last season, but does anyone really take them seriously? That defense is putrid.

That leaves the Donkos bringing up the rear. So they trade away a boatload of premium draft picks, a couple nice players for an aging declining QB that’s not the same guy now and struggled behind Seattle’s awful O-Line. Now he gets to go play for . . . . . . . wait for it . . . . . . . Denver’s awful O-Line. Fascinating. A decent defense that lost their defensive wizard (yes, he sucked as a head coach), hired a rookie head coach because he was ARod’s OC and they were banking on him coming to Denver. Now they’ve invested in their pass rush and banking on Chubb and Gregory to provide the majority of the pressure, two guys that can barely stay on the field. I’m sure this will end well for them.

1. Chiefs
2. Chargers
3. Raiders
4. Broncos

Let it be said. Let it be known.

Is it confirmed that Denver hired Hackett in order to lure Rodgers?

That would be hilarious.

So many wideouts with potential, yet no sure thing.

Part of me wonders if the Chiefs are expecting Gordon to break out and return to form next year. Just doesn’t seem like Veach to go into training camp without a proven #1 for Mahomes.

Lamar and his receivers should be unstoppable

Apparently, we're the 4th scariest offense in the league: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDWTLGx43-s

No one is expecting jack squat out of Josh Gordon.

Wait, why are the Ravens SB contenders? Shouldn't they contend for a divisional round win before they set their eyes on a SB?

And more importantly did they replace their running back with a quarterback in the offseason and I missed it?

The Ravens have a RB playing QB with no WRs outside of that I would argue they have 1 of the best rosters in the league. That's not a Superbowl contender though, Pittsburgh is a fringe 6/7th seed, Cleveland could be really good though.

I ****ing hate it. So ****ing stupid. Then it's like NBA playoffs just drag on and on. Stupid only one team get gets a bye week from each conference.

It's stupid they added an extra game during regular season. ****ING THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL IS STUPID before Thanksgiving.

Travis Kelce is the proven #1 for Patrick, just like Gronk was for Brady all those years. Why does Patrick also need a WR1? He’s started 5 games without Hill and was 4-1 in those games with the offense averaging 30 points a game in the 4 wins. Does he really need a #1 WR to succeed? And even when he had one, the rest of the receiving core was mostly garbage, save Mecole or Sammy ocassionally. He still has Mecole, he still has Kelce as his #1 option. Much better 2nd and 3rd receivers in JuJu and MVS (from DRob and Pringle), a couple of rookie WR’s with a lot of potential (Moore and Ross). I personally think we’ll be fine.

If Pat is who we think he is, he doesn’t need #1’s at every skill position to be successful. Trust in Pat. Trust in Andy. Trust in Veach.


Edit: Oh, and Gordon sucks and is washed up.

Judging by QB’s the AFC West will finish:

1. Chiefs
2. Chargers
3. Donkos
4. Faiders


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Idk i'd flip Donks and Faiders because Devante Adams may give Carr the edge he needs but I don't think Russell Wilson is all that hasn't made the playoffs in 6 years. He needs a defense to carry him.

I'd flip Kansas City and the Chargers. Chargers added talent to the roster big time while their QB is still on a rookie contract. The other teams are weighed down with unruly, bloated, greedy QB contracts.

Did I ever tell you I was one of the ones who'd actually thought Phillip Rivers seemed nice? I really always liked him, FYI. Seemed he was a Mahomes fan too. Good dude (bolo and all!)

You'd be very wrong; but everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess

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We have 8 games against that group. Plus the Bengals, Browns, Titans, Steelers, Rams, Bucs, and 49ers. We're going to be battle tested.

I'd also flip the the Faid and
Cheating Donx.

Agreed. Don't even get me started on 17 games and early season Thursday Night Football. Plenty of H-A-T-E also.

They added talent to a roster that missed the playoffs last year and would’ve been below .500 had the Chiefs not gifted them with 4 turnovers in week 3. Their coach hasn’t proved competent and they won’t play a true home game all year. There are flaws to LA and factors working against them that are completely glossed over every single year (which is why they are always hyped during the offseason and always fail to live up to it).


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It's Carr's shit or get off the pot, season. It needs to coincide with one of his uptick years. Doable

Lets see, how do we stand ? :rolleyes:

2021 AFW West Division Champs: Kansas City Chiefs
2020 AFW West Division Champs: Kansas City Chiefs
2019 AFW West Division Champs: Kansas City Chiefs
2018 AFW West Division Champs: Kansas City Chiefs
2017 AFW West Division Champs: Kansas City Chiefs
2016 AFW West Division Champs: Kansas City Chiefs

I would say, pretty damn well.

It's a nice projection and all... but, I don't think a division has ever sent all 4 teams to the playoffs. I know 3 teams have advanced before.

The AFCW will not send all four teams - just not going to happen. They'll beat the hell out of each other, I see a lot of splits (if not all splits). Depending on how the games fall on the calendar, I just don't see it happening.

Probably not, but how long has there been a 7th playoff spot?

The Cowgirls get the easiest schedule this year

In summation...
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There is an extra WC team now. That changes things.

I was going to ask if a division has ever sent all 4 teams to the playoffs.

Very true, but I still think it's a tall order... especially in the AFC this year.

It's hard to believe after this past season when the Chiefs looked like a 5-win team for 6 straight weeks against the likes of Love and the NYG, and Josh Allen looked like ass for weeks against the likes of the ****ing Jags,, and the Browns had issues and the Chargers once again Chargered...... that everyone just defaults back to all of the offseason moves working out perfectly for every team involved and there are now all of these powerhouse teams now that haven't even stepped on the field yet, much less proven they can win 12+ games or do anything in the playoffs.

Can't wait for the schedule to be released so we can all predict the Chiefs will best every team on their schedule that didn't make the playoffs last year and split the other games, without actually knowing **** about shit.

Speaking of the schedule, this whole "releasing a game or two every day" is stupid. Just release all of the schedule at once. /end old man rant

I don’t believe it’s ever happened.


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3 of the first 4 games on the road.


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Her projections changed after the schedule release.

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Big difference is the Chiefs beat Love and the Giants.

Josh Allen epically shit his goddamn pants against the Jags.

Sorry, but I don't care how well Josh Allen played in the playoffs last year. He's still a ****ing spazz dweeb.

It's still pretty likely he'll win a Super Bowl one day, but people who think he's the best QB are ****ing reeruns of the highest order

When is the term reerun going to be considered reerun??? I think there is a much better word and I think you used it, but the stupid filters would not let you.

Yeah, it's filtered.

Wish the mods would reerun that one.

No filters on TapaTalk.

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you guys can go to dark mode and it's unfiltered.


Filter evasion pisses off Austin Chief to a high degree. It keeps this sight from labeled as bad on the internet or something with the internet he owns this sight so it reflects on him.

Who exactly is labeling sites as "bad"...sounds like covert censorship. Who pays attention a site that label sites good or bad?

I predicted they would eventually come after site ownership over a decade ago...

The Chiefs are still probably the best team in the division. However, even the best team in this division probably wont win the division because every team is good. I saw a NFL power rating and it had the Raiders as the very worst team in the AFC West, yet they had them as the 9th best team in football.

Ask a mod. You can spell out the word **** cuss word and it will filter its self but don't alternate the word that's filter evasion. If you use Dark Mode you can see the cuss word and most people i think prefer Dark Mode.

Sometimes they have a sticky up top that explains this rule. No excuse for a long time member not to understand it or be naive to the filter rule.

Any Reid owns the AFC West. He owns it for a few different reasons but the main reason is the other teams in the AFC West have very poor coaching. Its been like that pretty much since Reid came to the division.

Brandon Staley is in over his head. When I hear this guy talk, I just roll my eyes. He seems like a big time fraud. San Diego has a ton of talent but the owner is so cheap, he loves hiring guys for $3 million a year, he won't pay a big time coach.. Broncos hired a bald guy who was a bad OC around the NFL. Everyone knows Rodgers is the Packers. Now the Raiders hiring Josh McDaniels is a odd move for such a poorly run team. While McDaniels is a little nugget of a person he might actually end up being a good head coach. He is willing to lie,cheat and steal and at this point that's the only way a team like that will beat Chiefs. Andy is running laps around these guys on two bad knees.

The coaching advantage KC has over the other teams in the division is extremely significant and I honestly haven’t heard it mentioned by one media outlet this entire offseason. Main reason why KC likely wins the division comfortably again this year (foresee a much better start than last year).


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We own this mother****er until someone takes it. Until then, KC rules this division.

to quote Mahomes:

I'll see it when I believe it.

Yeah, the coaching gap deserves more run/credit.

Nathaniel Hackett is what, like the 14th guy down from Shanahan in that tree (OK, an exaggeration, but still…) and he’s not an original member of that tree. His main accomplishment before the Packers was being really good at getting jobs from Doug Marrone.

Brandon Staley sounds great in interviews and speaks openly, which makes him popular in the media. He also exhibited a LOT of issues that would indicate he’s in over his head:
1) heavily penalized team
2) poor understanding/feel of when to stick to analytics and when to take a simple play (like getting points)
3) second-half of season collapse that included big upset losses

And Josh McDaniels? This dude was an absolute DISASTER as a head coach the first time around, and what New England assistant has ever nailed it outside of New England? The best fruit from that tree is Bill O’Brien or Brian Flores.

When a tree is that diseased, it usually is cut down…

Hackett is an AFC West name, that has people fondling themselves above the belt

Yeah. Being with Aaron Rodgers really made him look good. His resume is worse than Eric Bienemy’s prior to his time in Green Bay.

Is this an appropriate question to ask Hackett?

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I hate how Staley is compared to Sean McVay as a boy genius.

McVay coached in the NFL for 8 or 9 years as an assistant in some capacity. He'd been around the pro game. He had a good understanding of the ins and outs of pro coaching.

Staley had been an NFL coach for what? Three years? Before that all he did was coach Division III. Not even as a head coach, either. He also jumped the QC/lower assistant jobs that are often quite valuable for cutting one's teeth in terms of the management and legwork aspects of planning in a coaching job. Nor was a he a player in the NFL.

It was only his first year, and he made some mistakes, sure, but thus far to this point, is there anything people see in him that makes them think, "Yeah, he's waaaay better than Anthony Lynn" the way McVay looked like a clear upgrade from Jeff Fisher?

It's rather silly.

After one year, lots of flash. Not as much substance.

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I can handle "it's the Chargers' year" season just fine. I'm used to it and they are the biggest challenger in the division.

But the Broncos? GTFO out of here until they actually are relevant.