So you can pick and choose which guys you want to bring back next year, and don't have any dead cap?

Looks like another incentive laden deal.

2022 cap hit - $1.5 million
Base salary - $1.25 million
Bonus - $250k
Guaranteed salary - $750k

LMAO

People really need to learn to wait for the details on these contracts.

I'd be interested to see how Jones fits in this offense and how well the RB coaches can coach him up. 2023 would be CEH's last year before his fifth year option comes up.

I could see him gone next year if he doesn't perform or gets injured again.

Why is he so cheap? He seemed pretty productive. The only disappointment is he doesn't really have much pass catching ability - same as CEH. Would have preferred McKinnon even though he's getting up there in age.

There is NO WAY I take on CEH 5th year option. Hard pass.

CEH career YPC 4.4

Ronald Jones career YPC 4.5

Not much receiving yards for either one of them. Pretty similar guys.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Contract terms: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> signed former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bucs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bucs</a> RB Ronald Jones to a 1-year, $1.5M deal with $750K guaranteed. He has another $3.5M available in incentives.</p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1509577104693858312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good deal for KC.

It sounds like his pass protection is the big issue. If he can't improve that then I doubt he's around for long or used that much. I think he's an odd pick up unless they're looking to run it a lot more as it seems like he's pretty much limited to that.

Veach is freaking killing it with these 1 year, incentive laden deals. Players are willing to accept them here because they know they actually have a shot at hitting the numbers.

So between Jones and Smith-Schuster, you have a cap hit of like ~$4 million for two guys who will both play significant roles this year. That's just goddamn absurd.

I see ROJO as everything CEH is not.

If we want to line up, show run AND just run it! Rojo is going to get positive yards. Thats his role and he will be good at it. Goal line/ short yardage as well.

CEH will be the third down back, pass blocking and finally start catching some passes out of the backfield.

A true 1 2 Punch. Not Thunder and Lightening mind you, but at least two completely different backs designed to do different things.

Will it be a tell for the Defense, yes. But it wont matter.

I like Rojo. He's better than CEH period.

This won’t be the popular opinion around here, but talent wise you’re 100% correct.

I’ll be interested to see if Reid actually gives him a fair shot. If he does it will be apparent very quickly that he’s the superior player.

Andy has the OL to run the ball. Jones is a more talented tougher RB than he's had. The long ball ooffense needs to be pulled back some and run the ball more. We don't have a defense than can be trusted.

Jones has hands of bricks

runner.

Superior RUNNER.

Knocks on him are poor pass blocking and stone hands.

That makes him an odd fit here, but we'll see. He may well be a guy that gets cut in August.

Andy has obviously realized he has to evolve this offense, and that’s going to involve taking advantage of this incredible o-line. I think we’re going to see a lot more running plays than we’ve had in a long time.

Not cute ones, either. Just lining up and pounding the rock. With everyone in our division also stocking up on edge rushers, it’ll be a great way to counteract that.

Cincy only rushing 3. Playing the rest back 10 yards off the ball was begging Andy to run the ball. Andy was stubborn and said we are winning our way. Really stupid. They are giving you 5 yards a play running the ball, at least.

You could have ran the ball. Have them come up closer to the line scrimmage and then went back to your game plan.

Andy Reid is 64 years old. He's been coaching the same way for 23 years now. He's not suddenly realized anything. He's going to be coaching the exact same way to success or failure.

Chiefs RB Ronald Jones

Two years removed from nearly a 1,000-yard season for the Super Bowl champion Buccaneers, the former first-rounder is a forgotten man in Kansas City's committee, and his paltry preseason work suggests he may well be cut. He's been dinged for fumbling and mental miscues, but he remains a solid straightforward ball-carrier.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...l-roster-cuts/

This post is aging well

It wasn't hard to see coming.

It was hard to figure what the team saw though...

For that to happen they better starting being more productive than they have this pre season...

Pre season.

exactly...running game hasnt been fully activated

It would be nice if rojo was at least what he was for Tampa. That would probably be a push with Clyde.

Welp, he looked like a real RB tonight. Now who do we cut?

Trade him if you can, cut if not. I saw nothing that makes me think he should make the 53

Trade him for what? I think he has to make the 53, we dont have the depth for him not to. From the glimpses I saw tonight he looked like a battering ram. That's going to be nice to have

I think this is relatively reasonable - thank you Catfish - You seem nice.

allow my rep penis to pull you from the red.

Well to be honest nobody is going to trade for him.

Which is why I'd rather use the roster spot on our deep WR or TE corps. McKinnon, CEH and Pacheko plus the fullback is honestly fine. Hell I've seen more out of Fleet-Davis despite his almost fumble.

NEWSFLASH!!..both Ceh and Jet are walking injuries who are very unlikely to make it through the whole year unscathed..so suggesting we just go with them plus a rookie would be a very naive risk imo. Jones and Pacheco's aggressive inside running today forced the defense to focus on stopping the run and low and behold the play action leaves Fountain wide open and he takes it inside the ten which sets up the second touchdown. Ceh & Jet are not those types of backs.

Jones isn't making the team unless they decide to keep him over McKinnon, or unless they decide not to carry a fullback. They've never kept more than 3 RBs, have they?

If he can't catch the ball and isn't good in pass pro he doesn't have a role on this team. IMO it's more puzzling that he was signed than it would be if he was released.

We can keep 4 RB's now that our 4th TE is hurt. So this is a non issue if they want to keep him.

Anyway I've been studying more Rojo film since he was confirmed on the 53 man roster and here are some thoughts.

1. I can say with 100 percent certainty that he's lightyears better than CEH & Jet at punching in TD's inside the red zone. He scored a ton of those for Tampa using his size and strength and we haven't had a back with this skill since Kareem left. And when you look at the great year James Connor had with Zona you'll find he only got 700 yards on the ground but was deadly punching the ball in from near the goalline.

2. The notion "he can't catch" is a myth. In 2019 he got 40 targets and caught 31 of them for 309 yards. Then in 2020 he got 42 targets and caught 28 balls for 165 yards and a TD. He looks very good at catching dump offs in the flat and he's excellent in the screen game too.

3. In both 2019 and 2020 he got 1000 yards from scrimmage.

4. He has a good stiff arm..likes the stutter step, hurdle and spin moves so as much as he's a physical runner he does have some tricks In his bag.

5. He's got that Damian Williams quality about him where he can be having a quiet day and then all of sudden he breaks off a big play.

All in all if Rojo remains on this roster for the season I believe him and Pacheco can be special. Rojo has all the tools to be a dominant back in this league..he just needs to regain his confidence and be given an opportunity to shine imo.

What do you make of his blocking?

Well it's obviously not his strength but I think there's potential there to improve.

I'm glad they kept him, though a little surprised they kept 4 RBs.

Think his main duties going to be short yardage and the closer when we are looking to run the clock. Which is a much needed skill that we did not have last year.

I think him & Pacheco will be the main guys in the redzone. When you have backs with that size and strength to push the pile it can really put a defense in a hole.

Exactly.

I think Clyde and Rojo are going to be your primary ball carriers with Pacheco and Mckinnon mixed in. You'll probably see all of them in the RZ from time to time but I want to see Rojo get most of the carries. I could see him getting a lot of TDs this year that way

So you think they'll actually run it in the RZ instead of doing some weird ass trick pass with a lot of motion that results in a false start? Or instead of a shovel to Kelce?

There's going to be plenty of opportunities to run that goofy crap. We're going to score a lot this year

Last time I saw Ronald Jones in the red zone, we stopped him on 4th and 1 in the Super Bowl.

I think they will at least lineup with 3 TE's, a fullback and Jones/Pacheco....then run some trick pass or shovel to Kelce.

You're probably correct.

Pacheco is our primary kick returner. He'll get spot touches and looks, but the other three will do the heavy lifting.

The run game has been terrible the last few weeks and it's hurting the offense. I know the line hasn't been great but Clyde and Jet just don't have the size to push the pile and get those hard yards. How many times are we gonna be inside the five and fail to punch it in? This is what Jones is good at and It's time to activate him now imo. Especially as he has a revenge game coming up.

They need to ditch that idea and let Hardman return kicks and punts.

It's a little weird to me that they've tried to make Pacheco into a kick returner. He's a downhill runner that is not shifty, doesn't have breakaway speed, and doesn't really break tackles. When you think of a prototypical kick returner, it's someone with an entirely different skill set.

surely ron can gain a yard on 7 carries

**** clyde

Yep. I remember watching him yesterday return the kick, before the one where he slipped and almost fumbled the ball, anyway, there was a hole and he chose to lower his head and make contact instead of sidestepping the tackler. No vision at all and is looking to initiate contact, and that's the last thing you want to do on a kickoff.

So much this.

Not only make contact...he ran right into his own blocker. Our ST is so weird right now.

After how bad the Chiefs RB’s collectively played tonight… specifically running the football… isn’t it time to at least give Ronald Jones a look and activate him for a game?

Yes. Nothing to lose. Make CEH a healthy scratch next week.

Might as well. Give Niang a look also.

How does activating a guy that cant pass protect after a game in which you throw 68 passes make sense?

Maybe he can help improve the productivity from the running game so the Chiefs don’t have to throw it 68 times?

Is he Barry Sanders?

No RB is fixing that OL.

The run game takes one step forward and then dramatic step backwards. They were good against Arizona, Tampa and San Fran. All three being road games. But they have been terrible against the Colts, Raiders, Bills and now tonight. The Colts game where Ceh got zero yards was an abomination but they STILL had the nerve to leave Rojo out. Let's see if they are stupid enough to do it again next week because what we saw today was utterly shambolic and simply not good enough.

Put Rojo in.

What do you have to lose?

He may not be able to sustain that 1.2 ypc average our RB corp managed tonight.

I'm on board. Give him a chance.

Why not at this point. That said is the line even creating any holes

Why not?


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Yep..it's time.

Yeah I truly don't understand this move if they won't play him because of pass pro. Didn't that pop up on film? The only explanation is they thought they could fix him but that assumes Bruce arians had no idea how to coach it, which I doubt

Did they just sign this guy to keep himaway from other teams?
Is he just an insurance policy?
Are they going to use him in bad weather?

This signing seems to be a huge waste up until now.

I hope they have a special plan cause CEH has gained about 20 yards in 4 games.

I wonder why the Oline isn't creating holes when the same stupid bland running play up the middle is called over and over and only on 1st downs. Some of the best runs this year have been outside the box and testing the perimeter. It was clear they had the middle stuffed but yet we continued to run "insert rb name" right into a brick wall.

I really think Bienemy was calling plays last night.

When your entire RB stable goes for 14 yards on 12 carries or something ridiculous like that, I don't think you can put the blame on the backs.

Other than that 2nd and 1 in the red zone early on that Clyde came up short on and the beautifully blocked screen that McKinnon tripped over himself, I don't think the RBs had truly terrible games. There just wasn't any room to work.

The Titans defensive line is stout. But at this point....you have to see what Rojo offers. Give him a chance against the Jags.

Yeah, bit of a dick move to keep him inactive most games and not release him when asked if he can't even get a look when the other RBs are performing this poorly as a collective.

If he wanted to be given a spot he wouldn't have signed with the Chiefs.

Getting paid $1.5M. Sit down and shutup or be better.

Pretty much this.

It wouldnt have mattered who played RB last night, there were NO HOLES. The blocking was terrible.

RoJo has to be better than these guys.

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Kind of hard to do that when they won't even dress him for games.