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ptlyon 10-12-2022 01:50 PM

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ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16525437)
So now you're advocating saying "****a" to a rando as some sort of social test?

I thought you weren't supposed to do that?

No, im saying since i am not to be believed, and that apparently ****a and ****er are the same thing, then just ask someone who uses the word regularly if they're the same to him or not.

Culture has largely shown that it is NOT the same word. Unless of course you believe that hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people just like to greet and refer to each other in hateful, bigoted ways.

jd1020 10-12-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525488)
The original conversation was regarding the difference between "er" and "ga".

No idea what we're even talking about at this point.

That you don't like the "ga" version because it makes you uncomfortable? Because coming from an older white guy it's never going to sound right?

Ok.

And here in SoCal the word isn't nearly as big of a deal and is more or less just a part of modern street slang.

Fact is the word is used with high regularity with no offense taken. If that makes you feel some type of way i don't know what to say.

The entire point is ****er and ****a are two very different words with very different meanings amongst those who use them.

Again, if its not a big deal then use it in public. I don't give a shit. I'm not black so it's meaning to me means **** all.

tyecopeland 10-12-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16525388)
The Kanye West song "Gold Digger" rhymes digger with "****a" about 150 times. Or more.

But they're totally different words. With different meanings. Some guy who posts as Detoxing on the internet says so.

My point was pretty sure ceelo uses the 'hard r' in the song.

I agree with detoxing that there are distinctions in the two words. Either one could get you ****ed up. But one almost assuredly will while the other has spots its use can be okayed.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525505)
Again, if its not a big deal then use it in public. I don't give a shit. I'm not black so it's meaning to me means **** all.

It gets used in public with regularity. It permeates through out black culture and as such has trickled into other minority cultures as well, where it's also accepted.

I get it. (some) Whites are on the outside looking in, feeling some type of way about it because you can't use it w/o sounding racist.

Again, the conversation was regarding the difference between "er" and "ga", to which there is undeniably a difference.

Anything beyond that....however you wanna feel about it, whatever.

jd1020 10-12-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16525510)
I agree with detoxing that there are distinctions in the two words. Either one could get you ****ed up.

Why would the "a" version ever get you ****ed up, given it's not a bad word?

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525514)
Why would the "a" version ever get you ****ed up, given it's not a bad word.

Big lengthy post about it already. We're dancing in circles.

You just don't use the word. Others, who know HOW and WHEN will and be just fine. I think we can agree on that at least.

jd1020 10-12-2022 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525518)
Big lengthy post about it already. We're dancing in circles.

You just don't use the word. Others, who know HOW and WHEN will and be just fine. I think we can agree on that at least.

Why do you have to decide when and where to use a word that is appropriate?

We're going in circles because you cant see the ****ing obvious. All I'm going to say on the matter.

Marcellus 10-12-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525520)
Why do you have to decide when and where to use a word that is appropriate?

We're going in circles because you cant see the ****ing obvious. All I'm going to say on the matter.

Look I agree with you the concept is stupid but we both know it is what it is so you don't really need to be obtuse, you know the reason.

jd1020 10-12-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16525525)
Look I agree with you the concept is stupid but we both know it is what it is so you don't really need to be obtuse, you know the reason.

You and I may know, but the person I'm quoting doesnt seem to.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525520)
Why do you have to decide when and where to use a word that is appropriate?

We're going in circles because you cant see the ****ing obvious. All I'm going to say on the matter.

I see you using the word "****" with regularity, would you use that word during a sermon?

No? Oh, could it be that as an adult you can distinguish when, where and with whom it's applicable?

THAT should be obvious.

jd1020 10-12-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525528)
I see you using the word "****" with regularity, would you use that word during a sermon?

No I wouldnt. Why? Because its a BAD word.

Talk about throwing a ****ing softball middle middle. Good lord.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525529)
No I wouldnt. Why? Because its a BAD word.

Talk about throwing a ****ing softball middle middle. Good lord.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525528)

No? Oh, could it be that as an adult you can distinguish when, where and with whom it's applicable?

THAT should be obvious.

Quote the rest.

jd1020 10-12-2022 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525536)
Quote the rest.

I dont need to quote the rest, because you ****ing know the answer. You are just too ignorant to come to the conclusion.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 02:11 PM

jd, if your whole point is that it's a word you wouldn't use at a dinner table...then, lol ok.

Not all words are for use at the dinner table, bud.

That doesn't mean they aren't in frequent use and understood by those who use them as non-offensive.

Like when my wife and all her GF's refer to each other as "bitches".

ptlyon 10-12-2022 02:11 PM

Not sure if my NSFW tag is working, so, NSFW

https://youtu.be/Ty3SArUjgvQ

Tribal Warfare 10-12-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16525483)
You know, I find something interesting in this.

I speak German as well as English and am familiar with other languages. Many of those languages have proper pronouns and they're specifically used for people of status or people you don't know.

Perhaps we're just too comfortable with being "friendly" to strangers instead of being respectful and polite.

Yep, it's always semi-formal with "yes sir" or agreeing it's " yes, correct" never "that's right" because right is a direction

jd1020 10-12-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525539)
jd, if your whole point is that it's a word you wouldn't use at a dinner table...then, lol ok.

Not all words are for use at the dinner table, bud.

That doesn't mean they aren't in frequent use and understood by those who use them as non-offensive.

Like when my wife and all her GF's refer to each other as "bitches".

You are not making any point that you think you are making.

Have a good one.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525538)
I dont need to quote the rest, because you ****ing know the answer. You are just too ignorant to come to the conclusion.

That's nice dear. The word will continue to be used frequently in a non-offensive manner by millions of people and you can just get over it.

Garcia Bronco 10-12-2022 02:13 PM

Well Jermaine...I've checked the law on this, just because someone tells you to go to hell...that doesn't mean you need to take the trip.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525542)
You are not making any point that you think you are making.

Have a good one.

You're not making any point at all.

Again, the conversation was about the difference between er and ga. To which their is a distinct difference.

However you FEEL about the suitability of its application means nothing. People will continue to use the word and you'll continue to be miffed.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 16525540)
Not sure if my NSFW tag is working, so, NSFW

https://youtu.be/Ty3SArUjgvQ

LMAO

Couldn't be summed up more perfectly.

rabblerouser 10-12-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16525467)

Nah, I'm not gonna bother going through.

Still funny though.

You can't. Because they don't exist. Because what you posted simply isn't ****ing true.

Just because I see through the hypocrisy doesn't make me a racist nor a *conservative*, though it's probably easier for small-minded simpletons to label me those things, just so they can judge people and compartmentalize the ideas and concepts that don't fit their narrowly-viewed - and, ever-changing, even dependent on the situation, as it were - definitions of how and what they want to believe...which, ironically, the antithesis of what many purport to believe...

Being open-minded requires a willingness to understand that one doesn't have it ALL figured out.

rabblerouser 10-12-2022 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525505)
Again, if its not a big deal then use it in public. I don't give a shit. I'm not black so it's meaning to me means **** all.

Even words that HAVE meanings don't mean THAT much to me.

You could call me any euphemism for a gay slur or call my mom a one who sucks the penis, and I don't really give a shit.

If I was gay, I wouldn't care if someone called me OR my mom a one who sucks the penis. Since I'm not gay, and am secure in my sexuality, I don't care if someone insinuates I'm gay.

And since, most every woman who isn't a nun or a gold-star lesbian has probably had a dick in her mouth, I have to assume that includes my mom. And definitely billay's.

So, are we saying that sticks and stones may break my bones, but calling me a bundle of sticks justifies any outrage, especially if I were gay? But it's okay for other gay people to call each other bundles of sticks, but only with a soft 't'?

**** thank CHRIST I'm not so limited in my thinking.

People can say what they want.

The only word I won't use is the 'r-word', and I think "reerun" should be replaced with "raider" after Monday Night...

ptlyon 10-12-2022 02:47 PM

And definitely Billay's. ROFL

ptlyon 10-12-2022 02:50 PM

"What if someone calls my mama a whore?"

"Is she?"

Garcia Bronco 10-12-2022 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 16525642)
"What if someone calls my mama a whore?"

"Is she?"

LOL...one of the best scenes. Be nice

Rain Man 10-12-2022 04:04 PM

I want to pronounce that guy's name as L-M-N-O-R, and it bothers me that the P and Q are missing.

Baby Lee 10-12-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16525205)
Who would use THAT word as their safe word? ROFL

Already forgotten the 'twisted genuis' of Todd Solondz? Vi and Mr. Scott in 'Storytelling?'

NSFW, as if not evident from context OR link, but it was a major studio cinema release

Spoiler!

Baby Lee 10-12-2022 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525209)
When people say things like, "I want cheffers to die", it's rarely taken literally. I think it's universally understood that no one really WANTS him to die.

A word like "****er" is much more direct in its purpose.

literal versus direct aren't the metrics you're actually using.

It's objective versus emotional.

rabblerouser 10-12-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16525947)
literal versus direct aren't the metrics you're actually using.

It's objective versus emotional.

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