Did this guy not watch the game?

The Chiefs moved the ball as easily as any game this year.

Bosa made an impact. He kinda cost the Sharters the game by removing his helmet, slamming it in the ground, and getting a 15 yard penalty which kept Jags drive alive.

i dont have PFF i am going off a article that says he was Top 5. i can't see the actually statistics. but the eye test since i doubt you have watched any Jags game outside of week 10. and Campbell is one of the best in the League at CB.

I'd be a little surprised if it is just because it either means the Chiefs have their heads up their asses or the Jags will play significantly better under the pressure of a road playoff game than they did 6 of the past 8 quarters.

And I'm not trying to be arrogant asshole Chiefs fan, it's just what the playoffs do to inexperienced teams and QBs... even Mahomes and team had some growing pains with being shutout for a half against the Patriots and that 0-24 craziness against the Texans, much less the Jags playing for a playoff spot and then the dumpster fire of the first half the other night in 6 of the worst quarters of football I've seen this season.

And if the Jags play significantly better than I'm expecting, then color me impressed... it's just not something that often happens against playoff seasoned teams (even though I believe the Jags did once accomplish it, IIRC).

What? Clay is boisterous and full of hyperbole, but that's being a fan. You say he's wrong in everything he says or does? Have you ever watched a red tribe cinema video? Come on man, show me where Clay touched you...

If they can keep Allen in check, they'll coast.

And OBJ absolutely wasted Allen last time out.

That defense doesn't have anything for KC's offense. And their RB is a speed guy rather than a power guy. They don't have a dominant WR. Their QB is someone who can be influenced by blitzing.

The Jags are as good a matchup as the Chiefs could've had in the playoffs. If they come out and even play a B- game, they'll cover and the game will be largely decided by the 3rd quarter.

The Chiefs have been awful versus the spread this season, but the 14 victories so far kind of negates that.

I don't think we're winning by three plus touchdowns, but I don't think we're ever going to be in jeopardy of losing, either.

And where the **** is Setsuna? Get in here and teach this new Jags fan how to properly talk shit. Lol

Jags and Chiefs both averaged 4.7 ypc this year? Do you consider the Jags to be a “good running team”??

The same Jags team that they were all like oh look even when they lose it's close they never lose by more than 1 score...then it's 27-10.

And my feeling is it'll be a "feels closer than it is" kind of game... a game where the GDT freaks out because it's "only" 17-7 or 24-14 in the 3rd quarter or something, but they keep them at arms length and we don't see the Jags driving to tie/go ahead late or the Chiefs needing to score late to take the lead.

Not expecting anything like 47-7.

I'd probably say it'll be something around...

Chiefs - 31
Jaguars - 21

yeah I'm not saying the Jags aren't good, I had them winning until I saw the first quarter. and then again when I saw the 4th. I actually like the Jags and they're a good team, they just won a playoff game so it's not impossible for them to win. but if both teams play their A game, I just don't think they have the firepower to keep up this year.

they're going to be back in it next year though, I'm not trying to say they're frauds, I don't think they are

The GDT freaks out no matter what.

Nah - the Lincoln probably starts whenever you turn the key.

Clark is more like a 2008 Jaguar X-Type...

I’m putting the over/under at 1.5 on number of limbs gators have ripped off this moron.

Lawrence is the exact kind of QB Spagnuolo does well against.

He doesn't run much, he's inexperienced and blitzes and pressure throw him off his game.

If the Chiefs only score 31, they'll have turned the ball over multiple times or put it in cruise control for a half.

This is a 38-17 game waiting to happen...

Fatukasi, Allen, Walker, Oluokun, Harris are all playing very well on the Front adn Cambell been very good in his 2nd year and Darious Willaims been great since we moved him to Outside Corner about 6 weeks ago. we have 10 sacks over the last 4. 2nd in the NFL for Points off Turnovers and also 1st in NFL for 3rd Quarter Points. so there are alot of things we are doing right. Starting fast isn't one of them and if we can keep it close in the half we have ended fast by scoring alot in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

I can’t even remember all the teams playing with “house money” that have come into Arrowhead in the playoffs and been sent home in the Mahomes era. House money means shit against greatness! But hey it’s been a good run.

I remember week 1 in Jax the year we won the SB. I was there, and there were about 3/1 KC fans to Jags fans. Was hot as a mofo too. Probably smashed about 10 beers before walking into that stadium. The Chiefs war cry was so loud when we walked in there. That was a great game!

I'm imagining cruise control in the 2nd half. Which will equal lots of talk about how "the Chargers did the same thing before losing".

but don't worry you can't say anything to hurt my feelings i've been a jags fan since inception in 1993.

I foresee a heavy dose of RoJo running clock in the 2nd half.

when you have lost as much as we have getting fans out the games every game is tough. these last three home games we have had a 90/10 split home fans which was really nice to see and feel like a real home game which we haven't really had since 2018 after out big run in 2017 getting screwed over by the Refs in the patriots game.

That was when your team was supposed to be good...

This is the kinda game that Andy still holds things back. That’s the luxury of having the 1 seed.

I think he’s got a lot of shit ready for the Bills/Bengals next week that hasn’t been seen yet. Hardman and Toney haven’t gotten on the field together yet.

You know Andy’s been writing up plays for that duo

They could be underroos

where you think Pederson comes from? this time around is the Student to overtake the Teacher.

Andy builds plays off plays.

I think the idea that he 'holds things back' is a little bit overblown. But I think he'll absolutely show some 'new' looks that aren't even all that new - they're just things he's putting on tape to set something up for the following week.

I get what you’re pushing here. But our ROOKIE cb has better numbers than Tyson this season.

Campbell 83 targets, 45 completions, 54.2% completion percentage, 433 yds, 9.6 yp completion, 6tds, 78 rating

McDuffie 51 targets, 27 completions, 52.9% completion percentage, 253 yds, 9.4 yp completion, 3 TDs, 86.5 rating.

after the chiefs get done redecorating arrowhead in fine jaguar hides, you will begin to see the respect coming from whoever wins in buffalo

we're the best team playing the best at the right time

we are to be feared

Well, maybe not like once a year or so. LMAO

It just takes something like that Raiders game last year when they fumbled-6 on the first play of the game and never let up.

Maybe the Cards game this year?

LMAO

The Cards game had plenty of freak outs. Remember all those weird flukey injuries?

The Jags had 5 turnovers! They were down 27-0!

And they WON! Thats impressive, I dont care who you are playing.

This actually benefits the Chiefs! It happened at the perfect time. Andy has to watch this tape and realize you cant take your foot off the gas!

Andy is a good sport and never wants to humiliate his opponent and as we have all seen, seems to let up way to soon. Doug Pederson is especially a guy Andy does NOT want to hurt his feelings or make him look bad.

But this game has to make Andy realize, Put the hammer down and do NOT let up until time expires!

GO CHIEFS!!

The Chargers are nice slump buster until normal light arrives

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The Chiefs are 8.5 point favorites vs. the Jaguars. Interestingly, for tonight's game, the Bucs are 2.5 point underdogs against the Cowboys. This is the rare scenario where if you play a 2-team 6pt teaser, you can cross (not land on, but cross over) BOTH the 3 and 7 on BOTH legs of the bet. This is called a "Wong Teaser", named after Stanford Wong who first discovered their profitability.

You bring the Chiefs down from -8.5 to -2.5, and you bring the Bucs up from +2.5 to +8.5. All other forms of teasers are unprofitable because you're essentially buying points that don't matter enough to justify the price. But crossing over both the 3 and the 7, oooooh weeeee!

It takes a big wong to bet a parlay like that.

The Chiefs were -3 in turnovers at the last matchup, the Jaguars were at full strength, and the Chiefs' offense was not (no Hardman, Toney still working in, Smith-Schuster hurt). And it was still a game that the Chiefs' cruised to a 10-pt win in (with them kneeling it out in the red zone and leaving points on the board).

I get that the Jags have gotten hot, I get that they are riding high after a crazy comeback win. And they deserve praise for that.

And as for the matchup... man, the Chiefs handled the Jags front really well last time, and if you don't win up front you've got no chance against the Chiefs' O.

But you're still a few receiving weapons away from being able to really hang with the AFC upper echelon.

Fortunately, one of them is coming in next year (Ridley) and you've got the draft capital to add another.

What you fail to point out is that Josh Allen has been average this year...and Trayvon Walker has been OK at times but he also still makes silly mistakes as evidenced by the penalty he got Saturday night.

Not good news when facing Mahomes, and Kelce the zone destroyer!

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Between the layoff and gambling, it’s incredibly speculative to suggest Ridley does anything with the rest of his career.

What did you refer to “your” team as last year under Urban Meyer when they were a flaming dumpster fire?

The Cardiac Arrest Cats?

The Hamlin Cats?

Going 18 months without playing is definitely something that raises some questions. I don't see the gambling being a factor at all (other than being the reason for the heavy-handed and frankly ridiculous suspension).

I want to see some players just maul Sisco for the dirty hit on Juju in the last matchup.

Wear that bitch out, men.

Go kick an onside kick on the first possession of the game

****in cowards

PFF is arguably the worst place to reference. Their ratings are all over the place. Was Campbell 1st or 2nd team All Pro? I mean he should be if you are comparing him to Ramsey.

Send the Belldozer in to take out his legs.

He’s not top 5 anymore.

I guess his play has trailed off?

And sadly I’ve watched 3 Jaguars games this season. I noted he was particularly impressive against Zach Wilson and Josh Dobbs. Real lockdown guy!

Eh. Actually, LAC did the opposite of cruising. Check the play-by-play. They stopped running the ball almost entirely in the 2nd half. It's incomplete pass immediately followed by incomplete pass followed by incomplete pass . . . in short, they helped JAX to get back in the game because they refused to burn down the clock with their run game. And in the first half they were moderately successful running, mostly around the edges, but they were getting 4 yards or so per rush outside.

But in LAC's first two drives of the 2nd half, which started 27-7 (LAC), they went 14 plays for a total of 82 yards, kicked a FG, but only used up 4:30-ish of the clock. They ran the ball just twice.

LAC basically kept giving JAX time and opportunities to get back in the game.

And JAX had to do something we've seen before from teams like TEN, CLE, NYJ, etc., in that they aren't a quick strike team; they have to march down the field 10 plays at a time, eating up the clock, just to score. Which is what they did vs. LAC with three 10+ play drives.

Andy isn't going to let that happen. He's going to get that big lead, then burn the clock down just like always does, and JAX simply won't have enough time to run all those plays to get back in the game.

Pederson is a very good coach who is perfect for the Jags. Andy is an all time great and one of if not the greatest offensive mind of all time. Don’t think the student is beating the teacher unless injuries cripple KC.

Honestly if you watch that game Jax had some fluky turnovers. Even when the LAC went up 27-0 I told my wife that if I were them I would be nervous. They should have been much farther ahead than they were. Very few of the points the LAC had were a product of long sustained drives. Once they didn’t have a short field you could see momentum shift. The Jags felt they had a chance.

Oh the amount of times I said that this season and then nearly had a stroke afterwards.

Feel like they pick up a late meaningless td and we win by 7ish

Love Pederson.

But he knows darned well JAX isn't ready to go head-to-head with Andy and the Chiefs.

Which is why he broke out all that trickery in our earlier meeting. And even with 3 turnovers, JAX was never in the game.

Maybe next year, with the addition of Calvin Ridley and a couple other weapons on both sides of the ball, they'll be in the ballpark. But not this year. Trevor's not ready, he doesn't have enough offensive weapons anyway, and the defense doesn't matchup well with the Chiefs at all, plus Uncle Bob can't out-coach Andy.

I expect it will be somewhat closer or at least look competitive, but in the end the Chiefs will simply out-class JAX.

the only other legitimate option is that KC comes out guns blazing, bury JAX early, and JAX spends the entire game trying to play catch up, which is exactly what our defense is built for.

To have any hope at all, JAX has to hope that somehow the Chiefs offense has a bad first half and they only score . . . say 14 points. Then JAX might be able to stay within reach for the rest of the game. Might.

When would you say you truly started to believe you could win the game during the comeback on Sat?

I'd say when it was announced that they'd play the Chargers. They're always going to Charger it up.

Correct they shouldn't be. You are a 9-8 team that backed into the playoffs and won a shitty division. Beat a team in the WC round who completely had to meltdown. Yes, they shouldn't be here and Saturday it will be very obvious and on full display.



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Listening to Petro with Sam McDowell, McDowell said after the Jags game earlier this year outside of the Colts loss the locker room was about equally pissed about #5 (Cisco). He is going to have a swivel on his head because they are going after him.

Ugh, I hope this doesn't get messy.

I know our guys are human and all, but that dude is irrelevant. We can easily just line up against these guys, play straight up and beat them. No need for all the extra shit that might lead to injuries or suspensions.

I've probably defended Andy's game management more than anyone on this board.

But one game I simply cannot defend, the game I've always said "yeah, he ****ed that up" - was EXACTLY the game you just insisted he wouldn't have.

Reid vs. the Colts in 2013 was a textbook example of making it possible for a team to come back. Do I think that's the sort of thing he'd do again? No - probably not. But he does have it in him so you can't dismiss the possibility.

Jags are a fun team. Love your coach. If they weren’t playing the Chiefs, I’d root for them in the playoffs.

That said, Cisco is an absolute piece of shit and I won’t shed a single tear if he ends up getting laid out or knocked out of the game. Hopefully Bell can blindside him on a TE screen or something and give him a little taste of his own medicine.

I think the game will actually end up a little closer than some people think, but I just can’t picture a universe where this itineration of the Jags comes into Arrowhead in the playoffs and knocks off the Chiefs. I mean, I get ‘any given Sunday’, but I just don’t see it.

Chiefs 31 Jags 20. Probably a late TD to make it look a little closer than it really was. I get the Jags played a hell of a second half against the Chargers. But that was the Chargers. They are know for that sort of thing. The Chiefs are definitely NOT the Chargers.

We’ll be ready.

Wait, which IND game? Not this season?

Well, I guess it doesn't matter exactly which. I think you're referencing one of my last couple sentences.

My thought was that in the playoffs, not the regular season so much, Andy has shown that he'll run the ball and burn clock when he has a lead, like he did against TEN in the 2nd half of the 2019 AFCCG.

Like he did last year vs. PIT to start the 2nd half.

Like he did vs. CLE in 2020, once the lead had been established, albeit Mahomes got 'hurt,' late in the game.

And then with BUF also in 2020.

I'm not saying that Andy follows a strict structure of running the piss out of the ball, because at the end of the day I think Andy can't help himself; he's going to throw the ball. But he knows how to salt away a game, knows how to burn clock and still put the team in position to score.

Staley just never got the memo last night.

The Indy playoff game.

That game is impossible for Indy to come back and win if Reid does nothing more than have his guys run inside draws every play then runs the play clock all the way down before the next snap and plays a straight prevent defense.

Reid botched that game.

Also, might as well harp on it again, since I have been since at least last season's AFCCG, it's inexcusable to score just 3 points in the 2nd half of a playoff game (any game really, but in particular). LAC proved that yet again last night. I don't care how big the lead is or how 'great' the defense is, if the offense only manages 3 points in the 2nd half, expect to lose, and that's entirely on the offense.

JAX eked out a W last night because Staley went full-blown poster child "FAAFO," scored just one FG, and so he did.

Yep, and on defense have your dbacks tackle the wide receivers every play.

5 yard penalty, 10-15 seconds off the clock every time.

Chiefs did everything they could to assist Indy in that game.

kay, I figured that was the one. And you're of course correct in every respect. Andy effed that one up. He can brainfart like that. Though I believe with Mahomes he's not as likely to do it. Or maybe it's been EB wanting more runs (though I have no proof that's the case). Either way, I think we've seen Andy much more willing to run the ball, and keep the clock moving over the last 3 or so seasons. In the playoffs, anyway.

I don't expect them to do anything unless they have the game in hand. I am sure there will be some legal hard blocks on him though early on.

Please stop. I'm about ready to curl up in the corner thinking about that ****ing game...

The Chiefs have a two-headed monster in the run game with Pacheco–McKinnon and the all time monster at tight end with Kelce.
Jags will have no answer for that.

I keep coming back to the same place.

This Chiefs team is REALLY ****ing good.

Absolutely everything comes down to the front 4. Because if they can generate even an average amount of pressure, it's going to be hard to attack that young secondary and/or exploit the holes underneath that invariably open up in the modern game.

Just be adequate, defensive line. Do that and this team wins a championship and does it without even a ton of trouble. The more I see from the rest of the league, the more convinced I am that the Chiefs are the best team in the league.

We are a better team than the last 2 years. We play mistake free football we will be tough out.

I was a big Jags fan when they knocked the mighty Broncos out of the playoffs years ago. Thanks for that.

Hey, Jags fan here, I come in peace. I have lots of close friends who are Chiefs fans, so this game pains me emotionally.

In all honesty, I think the result of the game is obviously predictable.

I've been perusing this thread, and I don't think I've seen much first quarter talk. That's what fascinates me.

The Chiefs have had some slow starts in their playoffs openers...the Texans game obviously comes to mind.

Do you think Chiefs come into this game just expecting an easy win, and so they start off not taking the Jags seriously?

Do the Jags come down from an emotional high or do they start off the game carrying their momentum from last week?

Obviously, the Chiefs will be the Chiefs whenever they decide to be... it seems like the Jags are very comfortable crashing down on ball-carriers between the tackles, If I'm a Chiefs fan I would hope for some jet sweeps and other type of running plays for wide receivers and Mahomes outside the tackles. I think the Chiefs' best weapon will be Kelce.

Trevor has been shaky these past two weeks, obviously affected by the playoff atmosphere...and those were home games! Do the Chiefs have corners who are comfortable covering shorter routes, the way the Chargers knew to do in the first half?

Welcome! I like Trevor and Doug. They seem nice.

Hey, do you know Setsuna?

Jags blew their load too quick. Chiefs will take care of them, especially in the 4th quarter.

**** the Jaguars


Doesn't have the same ring to it as **** the Raiders or **** Donks For-Ever but nevertheless **** the Jaguars.

Rape the Jaguars


Now that's kinda catchy. Hope others think so too. What say you REAL SNR?

Skin the Jaguar seems better than beastiality to me.

The absolute best part of this game is Andy will not have to open the playbook. Bills/Bengals should be preparing thy anuses.