Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16806867)

Take the RT false starts out of it. Their RG moved at least 3-4 times during the game and never got called. ****...one of them he wasn't even set before they snapped the ball.

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16806565)

Cry more

https://i.imgur.com/f0Zr1ae.jpg

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16806846)

Some Philly fans are acting like someone stole their scrapple.

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16806877)

Not seeing this picture at all on TV.

Skip: “ I don’t see a fist full of jersey”

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16806887)

Good Morning Football has been going OFF on Eagles fans and their bitching all morning... we beat ya fair and square you bunch of track suit wearing guidos!

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16806887)

Good Morning Football has been going OFF on Eagles fans and their bitching all morning... we beat ya fair and square you bunch of track suit wearing guidos!

Originally Posted by Youngbuck17 (Post 16806469)

I like Mahomes. He's a great player. He wasn't the best QB on that field last night, though. The throws Hurts was making were ridiculous. He should have been the MVP even in the loss.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16806903)

Meh, i don’t think eagles fans have been too bad. To be expected. But that’s the difference between a fan base that knows their shit and the bengals and niners fans we’ve usually had to deal with. Hell, a lot of the chirping is from bengals fans who are still salty from the afc championship. It helps that bradberry and Sirianni handled the final call with as much class as you could ask for

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16806903)

Meh, i don’t think eagles fans have been too bad. To be expected. But that’s the difference between a fan base that knows their shit and the bengals and niners fans we’ve usually had to deal with. Hell, a lot of the chirping is from bengals fans who are still salty from the afc championship. It helps that bradberry and Sirianni handled the final call with as much class as you could ask for

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16806934)

Philly had to call in riot police and tear gas them, I'd say thats pretty bad

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ss/ar-AA17pqgj

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16806950)

Ha, well that’s just Philly. They’re doing that if they win or lose. I think they’re pissed they lost but I don’t see nearly the same saltiness over refs or “rigging” as we did vs cincy. Of course any fan base including our own is going to hate a ref call that seals the door shut in a Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16806934)

Philly had to call in riot police and tear gas them, I'd say thats pretty bad

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ss/ar-AA17pqgj

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16806834)

For those Philly Cry Eagles Cry fans,
--- How many times did the Eagles Oline rock back out of their stance BEFORE the ball was snapped for a false start that wasn't called? I counted 4 times. I will rewatch the recorded game tonight and count again.

---How many times were KC receivers held and it was NOT called because ref couldn't see it from their angle? I counted 2 blatant times.

---How did a Eagles receiver catch a ball cleanly, then turned upfield and got lit, fumbled and Bolton scored a defensive TD? Looked like a catch to me.

---How many times did our pass rush get held? I counted 2 times for that.

We can bitch just as much that we got ****ed all game.

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16806963)

Bolton said after the game he knew it wasn't a catch.

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16806963)

Bolton said after the game he knew it wasn't a catch.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16806968)

More of a catch than Goedert's sideline juggle.

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16806977)

On replay you could see that when he regained control his left foot was still down, so he did get 2 feet.

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16806977)

I thought in real time there's no way that is a catch because he didn't do the 'football move', but it also seemed silly that he could catch the ball clearly and completely and then do nothing and be protected against a fumble. Seemed this is not really the intent of the rule. But as the rule goes it was the right call.



On replay you could see that when he regained control his left foot was still down, so he did get 2 feet.

Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807052)

Sanders fumble was a catch. By rule turning up field is a football move. So much for the refs being in KC's pocket.

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 16806740)

Was waiting for that east coast is elite and we are all a bunch of dumb midwesten hicks commentary to come out

Originally Posted by Youngbuck17 (Post 16806690)

Hey morons, you're not even taking my comment in context when I was responding to a poster who said, "He's getting a first down at least." Implying if he doesn't hold him he's CATCHING THAT BALL THAT WAS WAY OVERTHROWN!

Ok, I feel bad. On the east coast we have schools and stuff. I am used to conversations with people who have the ability to read and comprehend. I can see here that most people here focused on the glue eating rather than the reading. No judging here. You do you. Enjoy the win that the rest of the country sees as tainted. Peace.

Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807052)

Sanders fumble was a catch. By rule turning up field is a football move. So much for the refs being in KC's pocket.

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16807290)

He started to turn and jump as a football move but it was not a long time with control.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16807302)

If you are going by the rule in the book, how much time the receiver controls the ball does not matter if he 1) controls the ball, 2) is in bounds with 2 feet, and 3) makes a football move (turning up field).

Sanders caught the ball, there is no question about that. The only question is who the **** interprets the rule and the refs on the field ruled fumble and the refs reviewing the play said incomplete pass.

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16807377)

The Chiefs had a defensive TD taken away in this game. The Eagles kicked a FG on that drive.

Against the Bengals, the Chiefs had an offensive TD taken away because of penalty. They kicked a FG instead. They also had an INT taken away because of a penalty; the Bengals scored a TD on that drive.

These critics are overlooking all important calls that went against the Chiefs.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16807454)

Whoa, listening to Eagles radio 99% of fans along with the commentators are blaming the call.

Those poor loser assholes.

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 16804758)

Of course they're upset about the call. They'll bitch about it for years. Like we haven't forgotten the call that took away our 2 pt conversion vs the Steelers.

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16807321)

Mike Pereira said there was a time element. I have not read the rule, but seems like that is how the retired refs talk about it.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16807454)

Whoa, listening to Eagles radio 99% of fans along with the commentators are blaming the call.

Those poor loser assholes.

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16807482)

So, I'm assuming their vaunted D surrendering scores on every 2nd half possession was a distant 2nd place reason as to why they lost that game?
https://media1.giphy.com/media/PjaQr...giphy.gif&ct=g

Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807523)

Mike Pereira doesn't even know the rule yet he's there as the expert.

The actual NFL rule states NOTHING about a time element. He's making shit up.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/



So lets see here.

A. Had control with both hands.
B. Both feet were in bounds.
C. He turned up field, which is according to the rule book common to the game.

The part about maintaining control long enough has nothing to do with the way Pereira mentioned it to be interpreted in this call.

They might want to add maybe count to two Mississippi after the catch so we can make really sure they caught it for realz.

Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807523)

Mike Pereira doesn't even know the rule yet he's there as the expert.

The actual NFL rule states NOTHING about a time element. He's making shit up.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/



So lets see here.

A. Had control with both hands.
B. Both feet were in bounds.
C. He turned up field, which is according to the rule book common to the game.

The part about maintaining control long enough has nothing to do with the way Pereira mentioned it to be interpreted in this call.

They might want to add maybe count to two Mississippi after the catch so we can make really sure they caught it for realz.

Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 16807528)

Turning up the field is a football move that was a catch and a fumble clearest day. They had it right on the field and then they waited for Mike Ferreira to muddy the waters for the people to overturn it.

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16804952)

That was a penalty, but the one in the first half they missed was worse. I’m still in awe that we got that call from Carl ****ing Cheffers of all people.

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16807534)

To be totally fair, Kelce had a very similar incompletion last year.

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Nearly 3 steps

Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16807546)

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807549)

My homer might be showing through. I don't see a football move. The nearly 3 feet doesn't matter if it's nearly to me. It has to be clear. He's still in the act of securing the ball.

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16807534)

To be totally fair, Kelce had a very similar incompletion last year.

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Nearly 3 steps

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16807572)

:rolleyes:

NEARLY a fumble but it was not.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16806950)

Ha, well that’s just Philly. They’re doing that if they win or lose. I think they’re pissed they lost but I don’t see nearly the same saltiness over refs or “rigging” as we did vs cincy. Of course any fan base including our own is going to hate a ref call that seals the door shut in a Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16807587)

Bengals fans are STILL going on about the rigging. It's absolutely hilarious.

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16807314)

Losers cry about refs.

Easiest excuse in the books for subpar play. Lame.

Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807523)

Mike Pereira doesn't even know the rule yet he's there as the expert.

The actual NFL rule states NOTHING about a time element. He's making shit up.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/



So lets see here.

A. Had control with both hands.
B. Both feet were in bounds.
C. He turned up field, which is according to the rule book common to the game.

The part about maintaining control long enough has nothing to do with the way Pereira mentioned it to be interpreted in this call hence the OR before that part of the rule.

They might want to add maybe count to two Mississippi after the catch so we can make really sure they caught it for realz.

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16807662)

We've gone from:

- "That's not holding! Bradberry was in good position!"

after more angles are shown, we graduate to:

- "It's a ticky-tack call you just can't make at that point in the game, especially in the Super Bowl!"

after the jersey grab still frame circulates and Bradberry admits he held, we graduate to:

- "Yes, it was a hold but they hadn't called a hold ALL game, so they were letting them play. They just need to be consistent!"

eventually, we'll get to:

"I'm just so tired of the Chiefs winning."

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16807643)

You want to rethink that?

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16806877)

Not seeing this picture at all on TV.

Skip: “ I don’t see a fist full of jersey”

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16807662)

We've gone from:

- "That's not holding! Bradberry was in good position!"

after more angles are shown, we graduate to:

- "It's a ticky-tack call you just can't make at that point in the game, especially in the Super Bowl!"

after the jersey grab still frame circulates and Bradberry admits he held, we graduate to:

- "Yes, it was a hold but they hadn't called a hold ALL game, so they were letting them play. They just need to be consistent!"

eventually, we'll get to:

"I'm just so tired of the Chiefs winning."

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16807534)

To be totally fair, Kelce had a very similar incompletion last year.

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Nearly 3 steps

Originally Posted by digger (Post 16807808)

no, he never turned up field...

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16807824)

Turning up field is only one of the many options for qualifying as a football move.

I dont recall what or if I said anything on that play in the moment but I would say that the Chiefs probably got away with a fumble like the Eagles just did. Kelce caught the ball, 2 feet down, then tucked it into his body when it was knocked out. By the way the rule is written, that's a fumble.

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16807724)

Skip was a complete jerkoff today! :doh!:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16807724)

Skip was a complete jerkoff today! :doh!:

Originally Posted by EPodolak (Post 16807908)

No idea why he and his like have any audience.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16807824)

Turning up field is only one of the many options for qualifying as a football move.

I dont recall what or if I said anything on that play in the moment but I would say that the Chiefs probably got away with a fumble like the Eagles just did. Kelce caught the ball, 2 feet down, then tucked it into his body when it was knocked out. By the way the rule is written, that's a fumble.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16806958)

The street scum is a different animal.

My comments are about forum and comments sections.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16808084)

Dey greased dah pohhles again

Originally Posted by Hark Clunt (Post 16807846)

it's funny. immediately after the call was made, i said to a ravens fan friend who was rooting for the eagles "i'll take it, but that's pretty ****ing soft."

looking at it again today, given time to process everything, i'm basically fine with the call. if the shoe were on the other foot, i'd obviously be more annoyed with it, but that's just sports. objectively speaking the correct call was made.