Good. Then split the difference and sign him.

Make him the 2nd at around $25-26 million.

Thats what i'm hoping for. Somewhere in the middle not 30.5.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">REPORT: No long term deal for Lamar Jackson<br><br>He will be tagged by 4pm. <br><br>If exclusive, expectation is Ravens will look to trade Jackson. <br><br>If non exclusive, the Ravens believe there’s 2 teams they cannot/will not match (ATL/CHI) <a href="https://t.co/6z9b2PaTWn">pic.twitter.com/6z9b2PaTWn</a></p>&mdash; JACK SETTLEMAN (@jacksettleman) <a href="https://twitter.com/jacksettleman/status/1633127181462249472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wait, the Bears are in on Lamar?

First I've heard of that.

No, it's just that if they do make him an offer the Ravens don't think they can match. Probably because of all the front loading the Bears can do.

They already have a slightly lesser version of Lamar.

Why wouldn't they be? They got a ton of money to burn.

Based on what?

Age probably, he's literally right at that line where you don't know if he has more high end years or if he's going to decline.

Umm Direckshun went to a TC practice, don't you know this?

So what the hell would happen with the Bears #1 then? I'm assuming the reports that it's about to be traded are true, then if the Bears turn around and sign Jackson to an offer sheet the Ravens can't/don't match, how does that work?

Lamar in Atlanta would be kind of interesting.

It'd be an exclusive tag so a trade would have to be worked out. Thar report is just saying they think there are 2 teams that would sign an offer sheet they couldn't match if they went the other way.

There hasn't been any indication they're leaning one way or the other, though

No, the guy said in the comments that he has no idea if the Bears are even interested. Just that the Ravens said they wouldn't match an offer from the Bears or Falcons.

You would assume that Fields would be going to Baltimore in a trade because there's no way that the Bears are giving up #1 to the Ravens for Lamar Jackson.

Yep.

I could see the Falcons being in, that's a pure Arthur Blank we need some excitement kinda move.

It's all a moot point. Lamar Jackson at this point is nothing more than a worse Justin Fields.

Would definitely help bring value to Kyle Pitts.

Lamar with Derrick Henry would be very interesting

Wouldn't be a bad pick-up... he's just 25 years. Obviously injuries have been an issue.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨David Montgomery has very likely played his last game in a Chicago <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> uniform, per source. <br><br>The Kansas City <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and Atlanta <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcons?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Falcons</a> are expected to have interest in the former third-round pick, source says.<br><br>I&#39;m told Montgomery is, “really tight” with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>… <a href="https://t.co/mSMtqh8DAd">https://t.co/mSMtqh8DAd</a> <a href="https://t.co/FN5KNhJHsL">pic.twitter.com/FN5KNhJHsL</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1633158374962642951?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh, yeah. Come on over for... a couple million

Me likey

Why on earth are these reports with running backs tagging like KC will be interested?

Lazy reporting or was Veach on a bender at the combine and had some wild conversations?

Seems I remember the Chiefs spending time with him pre-draft and liking him, which might be the reason for the connection. Of all the "maybe" types that keep getting thrown around, at least this kid makes some sense.

He'd be a nice compliment to Pacheco. He's a really solid receiving back. That would probably mean McKinnon is gone though.

As far as i can tell, every player is being considered by the Chiefs so far.

Naw.. just draft another late round gem..

Could be agent selling the players. You don't want the Chiefs to get him...

That and we really only have 1 RB.

He has an expected market value of 7.2.

I'm not even sure the Chiefs would be comfortable at 3. Doubtful he would be comfortable either at 3. If he wants to fill in that RB3 role that Ronald Jones had for 1.5, then yeah you bet. But not even for 3.

Wow…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> have officially franchised tagged QB Lamar Jackson, giving him the non-exclusive tag. <a href="https://t.co/MXzOHvJbWI">pic.twitter.com/MXzOHvJbWI</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1633196517019340801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They need a new RB

That's a big potential suitor off the table for Lamar if true. Atlanta has the need, cap room, etc.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Atlanta Falcons will not be pursuing QB Lamar Jackson, per sources.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@diannaESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1633200049009176577?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's also one of the teams the Ravens said they wouldn't be able to match. So it's a pretty big deal if Atlanta is out. Not only does it hurt the bidding war for Lamar, it also gives him a little less leverage to actually exit Baltimore.

Snyder gonna sign him to a fully guaranteed offer sheet then sell the team as a final FU to the other owners.

Lamar is really being unrealistic and not having an agent is beyond stupid. Why would a team give a fully guaranteed contract to a QB that finished the last two seasons on the IR. He wants more than the dipshit Browns gave Watson and is hoping a team is that stupid.

His style and brain power will never get you SB title. His ass is beat the hell up now and when he's in his early 30's it's over.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source the Cardinals do have parameters to trade DeAndre Hopkins more likely after free agency starts. As reported second round pick and conditional pick or player.</p>&mdash; Mike Jurecki (@mikejurecki) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikejurecki/status/1633189515350401026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The belief is Mecole Hardman&#39;s market will be too strong to be able to bring him back. <a href="https://t.co/XMyy2HbDUl">https://t.co/XMyy2HbDUl</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1633218592283185153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why do people believe that the market will be strong for Hardman? He had a chance to earn a big payday this year. But that injury that knocked him out of the end of the season and playoffs should have killed the market for him. I figured that the Chiefs would be able to bring him back cheap after that.

Some team that's flush with money will sign him for his potential and the fact he played for the Chiefs alone.

He's got speed. And he is a good weapon.

MVS got what he got, I don't know why Mecole wouldn't get atleast that.

I’ll be surprised if a team makes Hardman a top end contract offer with his injury status.

It could happen, but that seems like a really big risk.

Because he's significantly faster than any receiver in the draft or free agency?

Top contract, absolutely not.

But why wouldn’t the Redskins or another team give him an MVS deal at minimum.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The thought in KC right now is Patrick Mahomes is expected to be throwing the same core group of guys he ended the season with.<br>- Kelce <br>- Toney (who the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> believe will be WR1 in 2023)<br>- MVS<br>- The plan is to bring Ju Ju back<br>- Skyy Moore</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1633217723785420800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yep. Things about a Chiefs WR everyone will agree on:

Well-coached
Will be able to play from any position
Will be able to run the whole route tree
Will understand how to find the soft spot in zones
Will run-block

LMAO Yeesh, the owners couldn't be more obvious about the fact they're colluding to kill the fully guaranteed contract precedent set by the Browns and Watson.

Why would pay a fully guaranteed contract to a glorified RB who can maybe throw to TEs? No owner is stupid enough to sign off on that.

Cards get:
MVS
2nd rounder

Chiefs get:
Hopkins

They'd be really stupid not to try and kill it. But yeah, you'd think they'd be a little more subtle about it. ROFL

Of course not. But Jesus Christ don't be so ****ing obvious about it LMAO

As they should, those contracts ruined baseball.

Can someone explain in plain English where the two first round picks that are "awarded" or "gained" to the team losing a player to a non-exclusive franchise tag come from?

Nowhere online does it say they come from the team that actually signs the player, although I think they do, right? Nor does it explain what happens if say the team that signed the player has already traded away their next two years of first round picks. Does the team that loses the player just have to wait?

Ok finally, like the 12th site I found at least clearly says the two draft picks come from the team that signs the player: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/n...-how-it-works/

Still doesn't explain what happens if that team doesn't have it's next two years of first round picks. Maybe it just can't sign the player?

Lamar Jackson update is crazy.....

Watch 49er's trade two firsts for Lamar and be a legit shoe in for SB

I think another part of this is not committing the same sin Denver did last year. They rolled out the red carpet and gladly let Seattle go in dry and realized Russ is scheme specific. Have to think the same thing would happen with Lamar.

Much smarter to go after a better stop gap like Derek Carr, Jamies Winston, Jimmy G, Baker Mayfield or Marcus Marriotta than put literally all of your chips on the table for Lamar

Yeah. Lamar is going to get more beat up as he ages. I'd definitely want a contract with an out window that opens up no more than 3 yrs. down the line. I think Jalen Hurts is a better passer than Lamar, but not quite as electric as a runner. Even 24 yo hurts had a shoulder issue late in the season. Keep getting hit as a primary runner, and that will only get worse.

49er's with Lamar would be stupid.... With Kyles run scheme... and CMC (Not to mention a amazing TE WR1/WR2 combo)

Having to pay top dollar for a QB would kill the ability for them to keep that roster together.

The wouldn't need to for more than one season.... A wins a win

It's probably easier to replace Lamar than build a Superbowl team around him taking 25-30% of your cap. I'm interested to see what teams are even interested in Jackson.

They can't keep that sort of talent and still pay Lamar.

Say what you want, but its a former MVP..... Its only his 2nd contract. I look for big cap teams to actually pursue.


Falcons
Jets
Bears
Raiders
Don't laugh - Patriots....

Sure they can, but only for a year or so.

None. I'm more interested to see if Lamar is capable of humbling himself once he realizes no one is going to fully guarantee his contract.

Baseball has no salary cap, just a meaningless luxury tax which killed baseball.

Like I said earlier. If Dan Snyder is big brained and malicious enough he'd sign Jackson to the fully guaranteed deal he wants them sell the team.

If he was really evil, he would trade for Russ and make a play for Paton. That would be even more detrimental to their future.

He's not fljust ****ing the Commanders by paying Jackson a fully GTD deal. He'd be dealing a huge blow to this push the NFL owners are on to undo the damage the Browns did with Watsons contract.

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why are all of these teams so publicly “out” on Lamar Jackson, an MVP winner in his prime at the most important position in the entire NFL? <br><br>What am I missing here?</p>&mdash; JJ Watt (@JJWatt) <a href="https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/1633246617699782656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe just maybe nobody wants to negotiate with Lamar Jackson acting as his own agent pay two firsts for the honor and pay him a boatload guaranteed only to see him run himself into the ground

Because he’s not a QB that’s worth it? I’d rather take Daniel Jones at his contract.

If I was going to make Lamar an offer, I would first trade my 2023 and 2024 first round picks for the 2024 first round pics of teams like the Chiefs, who will probably finish at the end of the round. Lots of value to grab there before making the offer.

Also nobody, possibly even including the Ravens, has seen Lamar run after his second significant leg injury and he didn't look the same after the first one

If you believe that it's fine, but there's literally no reason for all the teams to publicly come out and say they have no interest whatsoever. Pretty obvious what's going on here and the owners may want to be a bit more subtle going forward.

Can't stay healthy and has never sniffed the SB. MVP was a one year wonder Cam style.

Or, maybe it's evidence they aren't actually colluding. They all just said "Hell no!" when asked.

If they were colluding maybe they would have tried to be more subtle.

It’s been what…4-5 teams so far?

Commanders, Raiders, Falcons, Panthers. So a handful of the teams most likely to even attempt it. And it's odd that even one did it to be frank. Name any other player where the official accounts immediately say "nope, no interest in that player at all". It doesn't happen.

Well on one hand Lamar Jackson is already a polarizing player but he’s the first to be his own agent and asking for a fully guaranteed deal.

They probably asked sources as soon as he got franchised and they answered it. Sure they could have been vague and said they’re looking at all options but ehhh…I’m not sure anyone cares.