I mean say they wait till draft night....Chiefs are on the board at #31...

Comish walks up and says the Chiefs have traded the #31 pick to the Houston Texans for All Pro Left Tackle Laremy Tunsil!

Crowds would go crazy with excitement!

Sign me up for that all day every day.
Tunsil is a legit Top 5 proven LT in this league who can play at an elite level for at least 5 more seasons.
I would be ecstatic if he became a Chief. We can legitimately win 2-3 SBs with this guy as LT.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: There could be a potential trade involving <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> Pro Bowl LT Laremy Tunsil, per rumors shared by ESPN reporter <a href="https://twitter.com/Djbienaime?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Djbienaime</a><br> <br>Tunsil recently said he wants to &quot;reset&quot; the Offensive Tackle market with his next contract. <a href="https://t.co/A27K7kNtIz">pic.twitter.com/A27K7kNtIz</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1635328123666407442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh my, here we go.....

I'd much rather give him the bag than OBJ. Not even close to the same level.

Especially for our style of play.

The advantages that OBJ has are experience in the system and age.

Those are advantages are significant enough to make up the difference between them as pass protectors though.

Yep, Tunsil is an elite pass protector unlike OBJ

For a team that has a stacked roster and a lot of picks, this move looks like it's a real possibility.

It's happening!!

fyp!

This is crazy... my calculations indicate we only need 316 posts in this thread for the trade to happen..........

I mean not long ago Veach WAS willing to reset the LT market with what he was offering Trent Williams. If I remember correctly Veach's last offer was a little higher than what the 49ers gave Williams at 6 years $138M! Thats $23M average a year.

Tunsil not only is much younger than Williams but is also a better pass blocker. I'd still put Williams as the overall best Tackle in the NFL but for Reid's system...I'll take Tunsil over anyone!

I think it's a real possibility Veach makes this happen AND makes Trent Williams the highest paid LT in the NFL!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> Pro Bowl left tackle Laremy Tunsil has been discussed in potential trade scenario with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, according to league sources. Fluid situation on whether it happens, however. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> potentially retaining Orlando Brown Jr. has not been ruled out by Chiefs, per source</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1635340584209489926?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Have we traded for this piece of shit yet?

SHould of honestly tagged OBJ and then traded OBJ+PIck to Houston for Tunsil but maybe NO NFL team is willing to pay OBJ what he wants hahaha

Oh wow. May actually happen.

chiefs trying to drive the price down

they'll make the texans sweat til draft day

I told you guys and got shit on. Now go home and get your ****ing shineboxes.

Well they're either re-signing Brown or trading for Tunsil. That's all I needed to see. Now that we know it's an option, we know what plan B (or plan A) is.

I still believe!!!

We didn't post fast enough

It's dead guys. Kill it.

You have one more year of control on Tunsil if you trade for him, not counting Franchise Tags. He could easily be traded for and franchised to give three years of total control, by that time he'd be like 32 years old and could be released or not tagged if it doesn't work. You have Jawaan and Laremy, you solidify the line for the next three years in Patrick's prime, while you have Andy and Travis. It's enticing if you can make it work.

Don't worry. We can move him to RT.

Despite my posting history, I never wanted him anyway

Same LMAO

I'm deleting all my posts now.

We've got all the incriminating evidence from all you mouthbreathers locked up in the mod lounge.

:D

Perfect! Then shift Thuney to LT and win lots of SBs. ROFL

Knew this was never happening. Too much capital would have been required.

Did anyone else ever notice that Tunsil ****ing sucks???

So after all the drama of this thread? We not trading away our draft to sign this guy?

In on Cooper Kupp it is then

Fapping to begin shortly

Had my doubts as well. He would have been nice but Veach has completely adjusted his approach and is constantly searching for pure value in every transaction. We needed a LT, but he didn't have to be a top 3 player because Mahomes is simply so good. Just had to be adequate to pretty good, as was proven last year.

Taylor was really the perfect middle ground between Tunsil and OBJ.

Who's this guy?

If we were still in on Tunsil when we thought we were signing OBJ, does this mean we're possibly still in on Tunsil now? Tunsil at LT and Taylor at RT? Was the move to save a few million with Taylor in order to pay Tunsil?

Finally. A real source, here.

Sounds like Veach made an offer that wasn’t accepted and made Taylor an offer that he accepted. KC gets value.

It would be wacky if Tunsil would give them The Patrick Price discount to sign with the Chiefs. It's not happening though that dream is gone.

Regardless of the outcome, we know B V is working his ass off to build the best roster & he will field an elite team. Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to the front office. 100% trust in Veach!

I'm horny just thinking about how good the OL would be with Taylor at RT and Tunsil at LT. Good lord. It's a pipe dream AND a wet dream.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Laremy Tunsil to the Chiefs?<br><br>No deal is imminent, but according to <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AaronWilson_NFL</a> the Texans and the Chiefs have spoken about a potential deal. <br><br>“More than rumors, but doesn’t mean they will have an actual deal.” <a href="https://t.co/f4MQEaVBhq">pic.twitter.com/f4MQEaVBhq</a></p>&mdash; Chancellor Johnson (@ChancellorTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChancellorTV/status/1635649960040448001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Who is this guy and why should we believe him?

Dude....where are we getting the cap space for that? The only way that we could make that work is if they either plan on dumping Thuney next offseason or they plan to trade Chris Jones. You aren't paying your LT, LG and RT that much money and fielding a capable team.

I'd say Thuney is probably gone either way after this season right?

The issue is that it would have to be a Post June 1st cut or trade. And then you'd better have a damn good plan for his backup because he's been one of the best, if not the best, offensive lineman that we've had.

Aaron Wilson is legit and a Texans reporter. Formerly a ravens reporter

Trust Veach..

lol this would be so awesome.

Yeah, true.

Kinda thought they might extend him this offseason to bring his cap number down TBH.

They always have the convert Mahomes contract option to open up a shit ton of space

Why would they extend him? He's still under contract through 2025. Did you mean restructure him? I wouldn't touch his deal period. His cap hits are already big enough after this offseason and we need to be able to get out of his contract after 2024 if we need too.

The salary cap is a myth.

Yes, restructure sorry.

I don't really see his play dropping off and I would imagine they'd prioritize him over Trey Smith if it came down to it.

Of course...but you also can't just keep doing that every year. And right now, you have to factor in a Jones extension and how it affects the cap next year while moving forward.

It's going to be tough to field a team when you have the top contracts in the league for QB, LT, LG, RT and DT.

You have a two year window right now. Where you have a hard running cheap rb, the best TE in the world, the best QB in the world, and you could have the best OL in the world.

****ing go for it. Stay cheap at WR and CB

Draft like your ass depends on it.

I don't see the Tunsil thing happening anymore. Financially, can't work.

This is all I'm saying. Would it be awesome to have an offensive line of Tunsil, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith and Taylor? **** yes it would. It's just not feasible if you want to actually compete past 2024 without gutting your team.

Re sign Jones so it frees up Cap. Mahomes would have all day to throw so it wouldn’t matter what wide reciever you put out there

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Laremy Tunsil to the Chiefs?<br><br>No deal is imminent, but according to <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AaronWilson_NFL</a> the Texans and the Chiefs have spoken about a potential deal. <br><br>“More than rumors, but doesn’t mean they will have an actual deal.” <a href="https://t.co/f4MQEaVBhq">pic.twitter.com/f4MQEaVBhq</a></p>&mdash; Chancellor Johnson (@ChancellorTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChancellorTV/status/1635649960040448001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why the **** are all of you guys so worried about 2025?

Christ. You can dispose of Thuney and Taylor and keep Creed and and Tunsil all while developing new cheap depth now.

This thread isn’t dead yet….

You cool with losing Gay and Snead? Possibly losing Bolton in 2025 as well?

You are not paying anything for Creed and Smith for two more years.
You have been paying OBJ and Thuney top end money. So now you are paying Taylor (next year) year money, so lets just say to keep things easy he's getting OBJ's bucket of money. Now you add Tunsil, he gets Thuney type of money.

And it's all just shuffling of money around. Depending on how they play will determine who stays and who goes in the Line group.

I'd love to keep all of those guys, but I doubt it happens regardless if we trade for Tunsil or not.

This is so unlikely we might as well just move on barring any news.

Thuney is with us another 2 years max.
Mahomes is locked in for the next 7-8 years with restructures available
The cap is rising at a astronomical rate
Our entire secondary is locked in (Reid for 2) for the next 3 years

The way our draft class worked out I’m assuming Snead is gone. I’m just saying we have some absurd flexibility going forward

We paid OBJ $16 million for one season. That's not top end money. If you bring in Tunsil...you're now going to have to pay him top LT money and that's hovering around $23-25 million a season. Taylor's cap hits after this year are at $24 million and Thuney's are at $22 million.

If you do a Jones extension, then he's sitting anywhere from $26-30 million for cap hits.

And people can sit there and claim to "just keep drafting!" but as of right now...last year was an anomaly. GMs don't draft that many starters in a draft like that. Would it be awesome if Veach kept doing that? **** yes. But to bank on that while you fill the roster with huge contracts is a great way to kill a dynasty before that shit ever starts.

Literally the only way I can see a Tunsil trade working out cap wise is if you believe the following things:

1. Kelce is retiring in 2025 at 36. His cap hit comes off the books.
2. You plan on getting out of Thuney's contract in 2025 (or 2024 June 1st at the earliest).
3. You might need to get out of Taylor's contract in 2025.

That's understanding that your idea is to have Tunsil at LT. You already have a plan at LG. You can resign Humphrey. Smith leaves in FA. And you have a plan at RT.

That makes 2024 tight and you'd better hope that you're still nailing draft picks to fill depth spots.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So, *can* the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> trade for Tunsil? Sure they can. It&#39;ll make a few other things more difficult, but they could make it work if they want to.</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1635657669401796613?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Basically this.

You're also going to have factor in the picks that it would take to get Tunsil because you're now losing out on those players and their cheap contracts.

Again, I'm focusing on the next two years, because its kinda silly to really worry about what this team is going to look like in 2025.

Don't sneeze at the 16M OBJ number. A third of that covers Taylor this year. I understand that in 2024 that's a different story. Then there is the Thuney which is another significant post of money to open up to use on the Line.

And if you are wanting to talk about 2025, its sand to think about but you are probably not paying Travis Kelce. I don't know why we are going to get so uptight about 2025, when we could win two more Super Bowls before then.

Exactly. Its a risk worth taking, but understand I think its not very likely to happen.

Wow.

That would be incredible. And demoralizing for the Chiefs' top AFC competitor.

Oh, what's that, Bengals? You need upgrades at both tackle spots? How about WR just grab the top guy at each of those positions, mkay?

Tunsil would be a nice luxury that the Chiefs really don't need.

Taylor and Niang are equal, if not better replacements for OBJ and Wylie.

We have also had the DE spot eating up over $20M for years that we don't now. For a couple of years before we traded Hill he was hitting the books for over $16M.

I think its not a matter of having the highest payroll for the tackle position in the NFL, which Veach did with Schwartz and Fisher BTW, I think its just moving those funds around.

Veach let Frank go and its pointing to young and cheap at DE....Veach went young and cheap at corner....Veach traded Hill and spread out the funds.

I believe that Cap space for BOTH Tunsil and Taylor is not a concern for Veach at this point. I think its more on the asking price from the Texans on a trade.

Just makes sense to me:
Veach has history of paying the tackle position more than another team in the NFL
Veach has history of going big at the OL weak spots
Veach has history of moving cap around to make things work
Veach has history of trading for stud players and paying them


We ALWAYS hear that teams should protect the QB, protect the best player on the team. How could we be upset if Veach pays out for the best OL in the NFL to protect Mahomes and give him more time to be Mahomes?

PAY to PROTECT and Draft well!!!

OR you keep going young at WR and Defense

Right. And that's were you could quickly turn me into a hard no.

Its al depends on the cost to get him.