And...Contreras got his arm broken on catcher interference. Lol.

Cue the Benny Hill music, it fits perfectly with the theme.


Along with Miles giving up the lead in the 5th and melting down like always.

This team is just so impossible to like.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is just too close. Batters are standing as far back as possible to counter velocity. Catchers are getting as close as possible to frame pitches. <br><br>Not sure if it needs to be regulated somehow but this sucks to see. <a href="https://t.co/zdL6TkUkaJ">https://t.co/zdL6TkUkaJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/oHLPZWuxTZ">pic.twitter.com/oHLPZWuxTZ</a></p>&mdash; Jomboy (@Jomboy_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1788013138744373266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Baaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Boo these mother****ers, BFIB. If you have any dignity left at all, boo them.

Meanwhile Butters continues to be a pathetic company mouth piece.

Oh and Noot is hitting a pathetic .175 ROFL so yeah (Bart: "say it" CP: "pasta was right")...and Gorman has turned into a pumpkin hitting .180. This offense is an abomination

"Maybe it needs to be regulated"

{Contreras trembles in agony}

Consider it regulated, dude. That's his fault. You don't put your ****ing arm in the strike zone and that's why. "Maybe we should regulate putting dicks near paper shredders..."

Nah - one time facing the consequences of being a little less precise than you imagined should pretty well take care of that.

It's eye-opening how sparse the crowds are for a decent draw like the Mets, even for a Monday and Tuesday.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">31,283 is tonight&#39;s announced attendance, a new season low for Busch and a new record for smallest night game crowd at this ballpark, non-2021 edition.</p>&mdash; Jeff Jones (@jmjones) <a href="https://twitter.com/jmjones/status/1787655094260871581?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They booed the dog piss out of Mikolas, useless ****head that he is.

"NOLANS HEATING UP FELLAS!!" Just ask Butters and Skip

Just a reminder - we have another full season left on Mikolas's deal AFTER this season.

Because Mozeliak, in his infinite ****ing wisdom, tore up the last option year of a 34 yr old pitcher and instead decided to give him 2 more guaranteed seasons right before he struggled to keep his ERA under 5 for a season.

Because literally every single mother****ing decision this stupid arrogant bastard makes is wrong. Wrong from the very second he makes it.

Because he's just god-awful at this.

Frontier boy taken deep by Alonso lulz.

Gold is cooked. Whiffs on a ball half way across the other box. 0 for last 24

Mozeliak wanted to extend him.

I'm betting it was Bloom that was prevented it.

He'd have given Goldschmidt 3/$75 million and patted himself on the back for locking up the core.

It does look like Martinez was well behind the line of the batters box.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">J.D. Martinez should have been called out for being out of the batters box. Awful stuff to see a guy injured so badly by this bush league play <a href="https://t.co/pBpDto76Ws">pic.twitter.com/pBpDto76Ws</a></p>&mdash; Ephrim K (@ephrim_k) <a href="https://twitter.com/ephrim_k/status/1788004851621773382?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Contreras bother was called for catchers interference 2x in one game against the Dodgers last year, the hitter both times, JD Martinez.

Now there is something in this lesson about knowing who the batter is and their tendencies as well right?

That swing was so bad I literally lol'd. Just DFA the mother****er already. Either his hand eye coordination or bat speed is so far off he is way outmatched at the plate right now. Though my guess is its about 80% mental 20% age related. He just cant wrap his head around the age related adjustments he needs to make.

Watches a meatball down the middle, swings at a ball that would have hit a left handed batter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">not sure what&#39;s going on with Paul Goldschmidt <a href="https://t.co/Vrq50p5Oav">pic.twitter.com/Vrq50p5Oav</a></p>&mdash; jack (@Jolly_Olive) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jolly_Olive/status/1788037094096433295?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The evidence being his foot behind the white chalk of the left handed batters box from a camera angle behind home plate? Interesting. If the idiot who tried to play detective bothered to take the still frame from after the swing when Martinez's foot is pivoting, you can see white chalk where he was planted, or just bother to look at how the front of the boxes line up from that angle and realize the left side box sits farther forward than the right side.

I kept hearing from the BFIB how Brandon Crawford's veteran leadership was going to help the team. Anyone know when that's supposed to start?

God almighty - ABs don't get any worse than that. The first swing just looked like someone who can't see the ball. Wow.

Dick be broken

Thats not 1 AB though is it? 2 different pitchers and 2 different runners at 2B.

Ah - you're right. The first pitch was from #52; next two from 0.

In either event, guy's just not seeing the ball at all (though if that pitch from 52 was a 3rd strike, it might explain why he looked so defensive; that seemed like a really odd swing for a no strike count).

I think he's just guessing. If his eyes are shot and he's not telling anyone, he knows he's not picking the ball up so he's just guess hitting and hoping to get a mistake.

Guys have had solid careers as guess hitters - some get pretty good at it. But it doesn't seem likely that Goldschmidt is gonna be that guy.

Looked it up. That was strike 1 and the first pitch of the AB. Lopez (#52) struck out 1 batter, that batter being Goldschmidt. He blew him away with a 97 MPH fastball in the low and away corner.

Watch Goldschmidt suck ass for 3 months, get traded to the Astros for a used scratch off, and then go on to hit 150 wRC+ for them and bring them back into play contention.

They're going to lose 100 games this year. This is the worst Cardinal team of my life.

3rd worst record in the NL...and I still hear stupid shit like "if they can just get hot!" and "too talented!" by the garbage local media

I'm seeing quotes on Twitter from cardinal fans about Dewitt III press conference or interview. Must have been really bad, the fans need to come even if we suck or else we can never get better? Anyone got the interview? Also Mozeliak must have talked today too

One guy on Twitter summed them up

Posting some Bill DeWitt/John Mozeliak rules for correct fandom of the #StLCards. Feel free to add.
1. Check your brain at the door.
2. Never, ever, criticize the front office or ownership.
3. Attend games even if the product is dogshit.
4. Spend big $ at BPV.
.

Most of the guys I see on Twitter are actually becoming fairly critical. At least the headlines are, I don’t actually read their ****ing articles

Is there no other media in St. Louis calling out the team for letting this team get to rock bottom, this may not even be rock bottom yet.

From Bernie:
Offensively the Cardinals are Bob Uecker, a .200 career hitter in the majors. But that isn’t a fair comparison because Uecker is 90 years old and he’s calling Brewers games from upstairs in his radio booth at American Family Field. That said, the beloved “Mr. Baseball” couldn’t hit any worse than Dylan Carlson.

Bernie is always it

Butters is a company man mouthpiece

Why did they put us on the national TV broadcast? The paper bags are out at Bush.

Few days later and he had another at bat exactly the same. Dude can’t see the ball to save his ass.

The DWIII interview is incredibly tone deaf. Of all the PR training those in professional sports gets, it's just plain arrogant. It's going to get even worse if he is the heir apparent to the franchise.

I live in Chicago and even Cubs fans feel sorry for us. It's that bad, folks.

I caught a couple of clips from the interview. Tone deaf is right. It's like he said "let them eat cake".
;

Here's the Dewitt III podcast.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0OemGFKyWanfDio2mwKEav

Another billionaire that's ****ing clueless....shocking

Worth multi billion dollars, bought the team for 150 million, huge/loyal fanbase, and spends like Scrooge ****ing McDuck. Then you throw in the garbage that are MLB TV rights and he wonders why people are pissed? Spend some ****ing money and help fox the damn TV situation.

LOL....he's really ****ing stupid trying to poor mouth on one hand and then saying "If you don't come to games we can't spend on payroll!" Like it was just spending that got us here.

Also..how many years in a row are they going to run out the same "This team should be better" line and expect us to believe it's all because the players aren't performing and not because of shitty management and personnel decisions. It would be ****ing great if they could maybe develop a few players and not trade away all of their future all stars.

Been saying this for awhile now - DeWitt III is WORSE than DeWitt II. Dewitt II doesn't care anymore - DeWitt III is openly antagonistic. Jr is indifferent to the fans irritation - DeWitt III is appalled by it.

He'll be as derelict as Jr but with a side if preening shitweasel thrown in to boot.

The team needs to be sold. The Cincinnati Carpetbagger Dewitt family isn't the answer to any questions worth asking.

Don't forget that they sold the parking structures that came with the franchise for about 3/4 of their purchase price.

They bought the Cardinals for less than $50 million. It would probably sell for 2-3 billion now. After decades of $50 million+ operating profits.

But remember "Baseball isn't really all that profitable..."

These guys are the ****ing worst.

It's the inverse of the argument I used to have with the Fire Jocketty and LaRussa! crowd.

Guys - they can't ALL suck. Every aspect of the organization can't be bad when this team is orders of magnitude better than what they took over and is routinely among the 3-5 most successful franchises in the sport for a decade or so...

This is the opposite. This franchise is in far worse shape than it was in 2010 when Mozeliak lost Luhnow and the braindrain started. And it's getting worse every year. You can't have good leadership, scouting and development if you just keep playing bad baseball. Especially when it's not part of a concerted path forward but rather a simple circling of the drain.

These guys suck at their jobs. There's really no arguing it. A simple sniff test tells you anything you need to know.

The team is stuck in no man's land because Mo isn't going to want to admit another failure and fire Oli & Dewitt doesn't want to have to fire Mo. But if they fire Oli DeWitt kind of has to fire Mo rather than let him hire his 4th manager in 6 seasons right?

Maybe they sacrifice Girsch which will do no good whatsoever, nobody believes he is running the team.

What a cluster****.

The part about that that really burns my ass is that Mo made a great hire and then fired him after making the playoffs because he publicly said what Mo was denying. All ego

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB announced that Roku secured exclusive rights to a Sunday game, beginning this week and lasting through Sept. 15. Those games will also be available blackout-free to <a href="https://t.co/oZzKpIgKgu">https://t.co/oZzKpIgKgu</a> subscribers. <br><br>Here’s the schedule MLB released … <a href="https://t.co/ekn11BNcE4">pic.twitter.com/ekn11BNcE4</a></p>&mdash; Alden González (@Alden_Gonzalez) <a href="https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1790105717069984063?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"I proved I can hire a good manager when I hired that guy i fired in a fit of pique because he didn't genuflect low enough for a man of my accomplishments..."

Maybe not the best argument I've heard recently...

Mozeliak really is a one who sucks the penis, but they just all share the same common affliction and that's why none of them can see it in the rest.

DeWitt and his stupid kid are so damn convinced of their superiority that they have no concept of what a smug dickhead Mozeliak is in his own right.

I think I still have it in my signature block, but it applies perfectly here:

"When you're wearing rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags..."

The DeWitts are blind to this shit because they're just as infected by it as Mozeliak is.

Mozeliak is an incompetent weasel and a prickish charlatan. But the problem has clearly gone well past him. And the more the DeWitts speak, the more obvious that fact becomes.

I don't WANT to see them fire the entire leadership team and replace them. Because then they might actually get to experience success. I do not want that for this family.

As a Cardinals fan, the only satisfactory outcome is a sale. And sure, that's the DeWitts liquidating a $50 million asset into something like $3 billion so they win even by 'losing' - but that stupid one who sucks the penis kid of theirs will have pissed that away in a decade.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While times were good, they were really good. But when things fall apart horribly, these types of organizations see their steadiness become inaction, a large slow moving barge with no room to maneuver.</p>&mdash; Dan Szymborski (@DSzymborski) <a href="https://twitter.com/DSzymborski/status/1790773254895870050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Instead, they just mostly stayed the course and outside of the Gray signing (which I thought was excellent), concentrated on a simple patch up job.</p>&mdash; Dan Szymborski (@DSzymborski) <a href="https://twitter.com/DSzymborski/status/1790773256984596511?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">But the offense has fallen apart and now the time likely doesn&#39;t have the depth of talent to wait things out, but both tearing it down or retooling aggressively are more painful than it would have been last summer/last winter</p>&mdash; Dan Szymborski (@DSzymborski) <a href="https://twitter.com/DSzymborski/status/1790773259069280335?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">St. Louis Cardinals Top 36 Prospects <a href="https://t.co/ewm3T5HGaf">https://t.co/ewm3T5HGaf</a></p>&mdash; FanGraphs Baseball (@fangraphs) <a href="https://twitter.com/fangraphs/status/1791476422445343064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan Walker over his first 61 plate appearances with Triple-A Memphis:

.315/.377/.389 with 0 HR.

9.8 BB%, 13.1% K, 104 wRC+

Keep in mind that Triple-A pitching is vastly inferior to the majors. Eno Sarris has a figure called STUFF+ that rates the pitches of hurlers. If 100 is average on the STUFF+ scale, Sarris has found that the STUFF+ figure for an average Triple-A pitcher is 87.

ISO of .074.

Same shit, worse pitching and worse defense.

Balls are getting though AAA defenses that normally wouldn't, so he has an unreasonably high BA. The power is still shite and is seemingly worse than it was even at the big league level.

Keep him there.

If you can't give you an ISO of .150 with that raw power and those tools, then he's doing it wrong.

He's every bit the mess that he was when he went down. The entire staff, major and minor leagues, needs to be fired into the sun. They cannot fix him.

Right handed Heyturd without the defense?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Cardinals City Connect uniform is HERE ��<br><br>A city and a team that have been inseparable for over 140 years. The Birds. The Bat. The Lou. <a href="https://t.co/zf5p7GW047">pic.twitter.com/zf5p7GW047</a></p>&mdash; MLB (@MLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1792543498299658427?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not too bad for a City Connect jersey.

Looks like a little league uniform

One of the few things they got right recently.

I just wonder if they intentionally connected the city to a toilet to reflect the standings.

Best season ever for a pitcher? ERA of 1.12.

Yup ROFL

Gibby was great, and one of my all time favorites the 13 shutouts that year is itself amazing especially compared to the norm the last 3 decades. He was such a good athlete, you wonder if he could have been more dominant longer without all those innings, but there was no way to pull him out during that era and really was a badge of honor for all pitchers.

The one comparison I would say to best ever year would be Pedro's 2000 year. A 1.74 ERA in the "Steroid Era" when the league average ERA was 4.76.

In 1968 "The Year of the Pitcher" the league average was something like 2.98. Lowering the mound wasn't just because of Gibson.

I still would choose Gibby's year, but understand the argument for Martinez.

1.74 in the roid era is more impressive to me

Pedro's 2000 season and Gooden in '85 were more dominant for the era.

They were just so much better than their contemporaries.

Now to Gibson's credit, throwing 300+ innings and going the distance in 28 of your 34 starts is pretty amazing. But hell, Gooden only threw 30 fewer innings in an era where dudes weren't throwing 300 innings anymore.

Best pitching season ever was Gooden when accounting for relative dominance and volume, IMO. Pure dominance was Pedro. Raw numbers was Gibson but as noted, it was "the year of the pitcher" and there were a lot of guys ripping dudes up that year.

I just think a lot of people sleep on Gooden's 85 season. It destroyed his career (throwing 276 innings at 20 years old) so we should at least acknowledge its greatness. Best overall SP season of all time, IMO.

From Baseball Prospectus:

Gordon Graceffo, RHP, St. Louis Cardinals (Triple-A Memphis): 7 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K.
Graceffo picked up the loss Tuesday against Durham despite spinning his best outing of the year. It’s his second straight game going seven innings and allowing just one run, helping to bring his ERA to 2.92 for the month of May. Injuries and a fastball that became a bit too hittable last year caused a backslide for Graceffo in 2023, but he’s showing signs of a rebound this season. The fastball velocity is ticking back up, helping the entire arsenal be more effective.

Looking like another possible 5th starter in a system where Tink Hence MIGHT project to be a 3rd starter and the organization won't pay to acquire a top of the rotation guy.

If you're lucky, Hence, Robberse and Graceffo can make a viable 3-4-5 (and realistically, one of those guys won't make it so you're looking at hoping someone like Hjerpe makes a leap to backfill there; and as a 23 yr old with middling numbers in his 2nd go round through A+, there's little reason to truly hope there).

There's just very very little to look forward to in this entire organization. I mean our recent 1st round pick, Chase Davis, is down in A ball (not even High A) and has a sub-600 OPS for the 2nd straight year despite being overaged for the level.

I mean ultimately we have 2 guys in our top 10 prospects in Crooks and Bernal who are A) Catchers (so buried by our best young player AND the only veteran we have who was actually hitting and has 3 years left on his deal after this one) and B) Just not great prospects. They're that high by default - If your lucky, Cooks and Bernal are quality backup catchers someday.

But when you use trade capital on guys like Cesar Prieto, this is going to be the state of your system. When you don't know who's actually good so every trade you make is just a poo poo platter of C- prospects, you probably shouldn't be shocked when your system is full of JAG prospects.

In no world should this team have been eager to add Cesar Prieto or Drew Rom to the system. Except that Mozeliak knows he sucks so he's content just throwing numbers at the problem in the hopes he gets lucky.

Things just look awfully dim for a very long time. We're 5 years away from relevance. If we're lucky.

Your boy Butters just busted out the old "THESE ARE THE REAL CARDINALS! BATS ON FIRE! THIS IS THE TEAM THAT MO BUILT!" line. Good lord...I regret watching the end of the rain delayed game now.

BUT...BUT we have so much talent we have a logjam keeping our talent down on the farm.

The City Connect uniforms looked good

I hate them. Best uniforms we have had in a long time was the Saturday throwback uni’s with the red piping. They throw that aside for a softball team looking jersey?

Looks like the local youth summer league uniforms

Have you seen any of the other city connect uniforms? STL at least don’t go full moron.

I think they looked fine especially when comparing them to other teams.

htismaque: better than bad does not equal good

This is a Cardinals relief prospect pitching at low Single-A Palm Beach.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ettore Giulianelli is glitching.<br><br>And it breaks hitters&#39; brains. 🤯 <a href="https://t.co/mgo441tFt0">pic.twitter.com/mgo441tFt0</a></p>&mdash; Rob Friedman (@PitchingNinja) <a href="https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1795083979399282959?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Angel Hernandez is retiring from Baseball. Thankful for all the memories he gave us <a href="https://twitter.com/StoolBaseball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StoolBaseball</a> <a href="https://t.co/iEVe4JTpCj">pic.twitter.com/iEVe4JTpCj</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1795264191894560849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Guys that come straight over the top just don't exist anymore. And he looks like a bit of a drop and drive guy to boot (which is odd for a tallish RHer).

Yeah - there's just a lot of weird going on there. The stuff isn't exactly premier, it's just bizarre. Wonder how he'll progress as guys see him more.

I can't identify the first pitch. 2nd looks like a cutter (almost positive), 3rd a slider but it's moving pretty good - may have just overcooked the cutter a bit but I think that's probably a slider. And they'll all behave differently from that arm slot. First almost looks like a curve that backed up on him? Makes it look like a screwball but I think that's just a waaaaaay overhand curveball.

Like watching RBI Baseball on nes glitch out

Just getting to .500 ensures Marmol will survive another half season. Jesus they need to just tank it.

I can't stand any St. Louis management from the coach on up but I am enjoying this streak we are on. The Cards have no reason not to win this division or get into the WC.

Reports are coming out that Angel Hernandez's retirement came out from a meeting with top MLB officials. Officials were questioning Hernandez's ability to see and comprehend correctly.

Angel got so worked up that he stormed out and slammed the door behind himself. It took Angel 10 minutes to realize he was in the closet...His announcement of retirement came soon after.LMAO

Butters is going to be jerking this team off even harder

haven’t been paying attention but I heard on sports center we are like 12-3 lately. What has changed?

I guess it is a screwball.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You may be familiar with the screwball of <a href="https://twitter.com/Cardinals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Cardinals</a> Italian pitching prospect Ettore Giulianelli by now.<br><br>And you may not be surprised to know that he has registered a 69% whiff rate with it this year.<br><br>More from <a href="https://twitter.com/SamDykstraMiLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SamDykstraMiLB</a>: <a href="https://t.co/Xxk9yFaxyv">https://t.co/Xxk9yFaxyv</a> <a href="https://t.co/0I3hfa2jK5">pic.twitter.com/0I3hfa2jK5</a></p>&mdash; MLB Pipeline (@MLBPipeline) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline/status/1795868127001022766?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>