I'm so ****ing excited about this dude. Worthy is fairly getting a lot of attention, but if Wiley becomes a legit weapon, the NFL is just totally ****ed.

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In 7 or 8 years, you should be able to retire. Congrats!

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I can't wait to see him running in the open field with a DB calculating the business decision of bringing him down. Would be such an advantage in 2 TE sets if he unlocks the potential.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GET UP‼️<br><br>Rookie Jared Wiley makes the contested catch in the back of the endzone 😤 <a href="https://t.co/eAJOjHHahN">pic.twitter.com/eAJOjHHahN</a></p>&mdash; KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork/status/1823376576018350529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jimmy Graham vibes

Clayster what do you think is the O/U for Wiley tds this year.

5

Kelce's a year older, and this guy will take Gray's targets, and McKinnon isn't here to eat up cheap yards and TD.

Not understanding how this dude lasted until the 4th round, but thanks for letting us have him other NFL teams!

I think what excites me the most is how much more dangerous this will make the 13 personnel.

Yes, it's a potential succession plan for Kelce and looks like a potential draft steal. That shit is awesome.

But that 2022 offense was super dynamic because it was diverse, and one of those aspects of diversity of how effective and threatening the 13 sets were. Jody Fortson gave them a downfield threat with go-up-and-get-it skills that let them create a lot of big plays in the red zone/downfield. I think Wiley is a good replacement for that skillset, but with considerably more upside.

And with Kelce and Gray on the field, too, that's a really dynamic trio of targets who make your passing game thrive but can do enough in the run game to punish teams that defend it with nickel or dime.

**** it. Four TE sets lol

I didn't realize that Jody Fortson made the 2022 offense so dynamic, here I thought it was Ronald Jones.

Watch him be more productive than both Mayer and Bowers, and the Raiders cry.

Makes me want to get back into card collecting.

I kinda wanna say it...but i don't wanna say it....butt **** it....imma say it anyway.....

And i know this is waaaaay, way far out.....but....if everything breaks right for this kid in terms of health and reaching his full potential.....he could possibly out produce Kelce when it's all said and done.

He's going to get a full career with Mahomes...and Reid is a TE whisperer....just sayin'.

I really was thinking about how unpredictable and versatile that offense was, and how the 13 set was a key part of that. Edited.

Better physical tools than both those slapdicks.

He didn't really pop in camp, not sure how ready he really is to do much as a rookie.

Maybe that's a good sign. Guys who "pop" in camp often end up on the practice squad or playing in a different league. Give me "reliable and physically capable" over camp hype any day of the week.

He has plenty of highlighted catches.

DIDN'T HE?



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes to Jared Wiley. All aboard the hype train! 🚂💨💨<a href="https://t.co/1SjED5F9FW">pic.twitter.com/1SjED5F9FW</a><br>🎥<a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EddieHigh</a></p>&mdash; Brad Henson Productions (@BradHensonPro) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradHensonPro/status/1823749856868839877?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PLAY OF THE DAY‼️<br><br>Jared Wiley makes a one-handed grab over Drue Tranquill 😳 <a href="https://t.co/sjbGLFTLYj">pic.twitter.com/sjbGLFTLYj</a></p>&mdash; KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork/status/1816139606477160840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's playing TE with the 1s his rookie year when the team already has Travis Kelce and a pretty established player in Noah Gray.

This is the position that has had two 1000 yard rookies since 1960: Mike Ditka and Kyle Pitts. And I think we all know that Pitts was force fed all of his yards.

He'll probably do as much as most rookie TEs do, particularly among guys who aren't the main TE.

I think the fact he walked in and began forcing looks in the TE2 role OVER Gray is pretty telling.

They wouldn't be doing that if he wasn't "popping."

He gives them some things Noah Gray can't, namely a big, seam-stretcher who is a vertical threat. KC was clearly trying to add that back to the TE room between Wiley and Irv Smith.

"I prefer not to see success in practice."

Well that means Toney is gonna win OPOY

For better or worse, Andy seems to roll with guys he trusts over guys with upside.

If Wiley is playing over Gray (who is a fine backup and competent NFL player), then it’s safe to be excited.

Rookie TE's don't really happen.

It's ok, just let him learn.

I prefer an actual good player as opposed to training camp darlings like Bobby Sippio.

I think his impact is roughly what Jody Fortson gave them in 2022.

He’ll create some big plays out 13 personnel. He’ll let them run 12 personnel without Kelce.

But we’re taking more about situational snaps and splash plays this year.


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I think it's also reasonable to assume we won't have Kelce for 2-3 games this season.

And I think it's possible that Wiley goes from 3rd to 1st on the depth chart if that happens. Not likely, but if you want bulk snaps at a move TE position, I'm thinking you may be better served to move Wiley into that spot with Gray staying at 2.

If Kelce stays healthy I'm thinking you may see 250 yards and a couple scores on 15-20 catches. Nothing much, but a couple little flashes here and there. But if Kelce goes down, there's a chance you see him go out there for like 6 catches for 85 yards and a tuddy in a game.

I really think Reid will turn this kid into a 1,000 yard receiver someday.

I would not say that's completely accurate. They can succeed right away in the right situation. Here's a few from last year and over the last 5 years.

Sam Laporta: 86 rec, 889 yards, 10 TDs
Dalton Kincaid: 73 rec, 673 yards, 2 TDs

Kyle Pitts: 68 rec, 1,026 yards, 1 TD (how the hell did he only have 1 TD?)

Evan Engram: 64 rec, 722 yards, 6 TDs

Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, and Irv Smith all had pretty decent rookie years in 2019, as well.

Historically, you're correct. But over the past years, that has become a position that more and more teams are focused on in college, and it's translating to better "ready to play" TEs coming into the leage.

Most don't do what LaPorta did and come in fully formed as an in-line TE, though.

Move TEs do seem to be a little more common than they used to. Makes me think Bowers may be more impactful as a rookie than Mayer was. But Mayer had a pretty solid season as a rookie 'traditional' TE in his own right.

This ****ing guy better step it up if he wants to make my fantasy team.

In fairness most of the above were first round picks or high seconds and a lot on bad teams without a lot of competition at that position.

Also think the team would really like to keep Kelce on a snap count. The days Kelce plays 90% of the offensive snaps during the regular season are over. Guessing if Wiley comes on it would allow them to keep Kelce at 75%. A fresh Kelce in the playoffs is hard to stop.

Bowers is probably going to do fine, the Raiders don't have all that much and yes he's probably going to essentially be a slot.

12 personnel should be pretty effective for them.

Though they probably should've held onto Jacobs if they intended to feature it. Hard for me to get two worried about Zamir White/Alexander Mattison.

Honestly...I quite liked the look of Cupp in these preseason games. I know he's playing against the backups to backups, but he looked pretty decent. Certainly showed more than Irv Smith and honestly maybe Wiley. Again, level of competition matters I guess

So what’s the feel on this kid around here?

Was largely invisible during the games but the QB play was dog shit. I guess it’s still way too early.

Feels like Andy was definitely hiding him.

A month removed from the preseason, are there any thoughts on whether or not Wiley "flashed" enough to potentially carve out a role with Rice broken?

Does he have burst, et cetera.

Well, I saw him absolutely whiff on a backside block yesterday, so he has that going for him. He's been targeted 1 time this season. Given our offensive struggles, I'm guessing we would have brought him out of hiding by now if there was something there that we could expose. Maybe they unleash Wiley Package of Greatness on MNF against the Saints?

Very excited for this guy. Let’s not forget Kelce ended up on IR his rookie year too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jared Wiley posted this on his Instagram. It looks like his rehab is going well. I can&#39;t to have him back next season! ��<br><br>��: IG | jaredwiley <a href="https://t.co/WcHo98IF3X">pic.twitter.com/WcHo98IF3X</a></p>&mdash; Brad Henson Productions (@BradHensonPro) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradHensonPro/status/1902384199803273567?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I have high hopes for this guy...was super bummed when he got injured.

Wiley in 2025

25 catches. 218 yards

And that’s being optimistic.

In fairness, we’re many excited about Kelce
In the 2013 offseason headed into 2014??

First 5 games.

I just didn't really see the excitement around him after camp and into the season. He may be a slow builder, which he was in college and just gradually get better and better but the early returns are we don't have a future all pro on our hands.

I hope he is athletic and has some wiggle as opposed to being just a tall guy who plods to his spot and stands there. Really hope the injury didn't limit him before he even gets started.

I need to go back and watch his college tape again.

He's very athletic but what Ive learned over the years about TE is that peak athleticism doesn't matter as much as we think it does at that position.

The number of people crying bust when the dreaded microfracture in the knee came to light was astounding.

Might be time to dust that thread off.

Not enough IMO.

That's below Ted Popson's production in 1997.

He was being ramped up in the offense when he got hurt. Not to mention tight ends just take time. Bunch of wet blanket ****s around here when a rookie 4th round tight end doesn’t look like prime Toney G. And did I mention he’s behind the greatest tight end of this generation (**** gronk) and a well integrated part of the passing game that was just extended in Gray?

They need to get him in space with the ball. He's athletic, use that.