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FloridaMan88 09-17-2024 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17689716)
I thought McKinnon would've been the first call made.

As an aside, nobody is looking for Marcus Allen in his prime.

However, there are those who have been furiously fapping over a Kareem Hunt return for years. Now this visit, that honestly screams pure desperation from the front office, is going to light that fire under those folks again.

If you think 2018 Hunt is going to trot out onto that field, you'll be sorely disappointed. Frankly, I'm surprised Veach hasn't been able to poach someone a decade younger.

Somehow a guy sitting on his couch that played here 6 years ago and watched his career spiral down the toilet is the best option for the best GM in football?

You think Hunt is washed, yet you prefer McKinnon?

Wallcrawler 09-17-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17689723)
You think Hunt is washed, yet you prefer McKinnon?

Let's see, the guy who was literally scoring touchdowns in this offense last season, or a guy who hasn't been here in 6 years, and shouldn't be returning.

Hmm.

Given the choice between the two washed backs, yes I'd prefer McKinnon.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17689698)
LMAO That's the quintessential KCC post.

Reposting some rando geeks Twitter shit post because he isn't clever enough to make his own.

The shit post itself isn't even good.

Shoehorning LeBron into something he has literally no relevance to.

LMAO What a goober.

And don't forget getting exactly this kind of reaction as planned.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17689689)
Imagine being dumb enough to put Butker and Hunt in the same category.

Imagine being dumb enough to take that tweet in any way seriously. LMAO

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689736)
And don't forget getting exactly this kind of reaction as planned.

LMAO Sure, if your ego is that low that basic pointing and laughing at your lame Twitter shit posts gets you off then keep on keeping on, champ.

DJ's left nut 09-17-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17689732)
Let's see, the guy who was literally scoring touchdowns in this offense last season, or a guy who hasn't been here in 6 years, and shouldn't be returning.

Hmm.

Given the choice between the two washed backs, yes I'd prefer McKinnon.

I wonder if there's a stylistic distinction from a blocking standpoint.

For instance, McKinnon can chip but was best at 'absorbing' blitzers in pass pro. Hunt's just a bigger guy.

Maybe if they intend to use someone to help Kingsley a little more, they want someone that is more likely to deliver a punch than absorb one.

So in that regard, perhaps they just see Hunt, being the bigger and stronger back, as a slightly better fit.

Because yeah, intuitively you would think McKinnon would get the call ahead of Hunt. If he isn't, there's a reason for it.

TwistedChief 09-17-2024 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17689732)
Let's see, the guy who was literally scoring touchdowns in this offense last season, or a guy who hasn't been here in 6 years, and shouldn't be returning.

Hmm.

Given the choice between the two washed backs, yes I'd prefer McKinnon.

We need a guy who can provide a floor and take some of the real workload.

McKinnon's carries his 3 years with the Chiefs (from most recent): 21, 72, and 12.

That is not what we need. We replaced McKinnon with Perine. We don't need another guy who excels on 3rd down but will break if we run him between the tackles too often.

Mecca 09-17-2024 10:43 AM

McKinnon hasn't been able to make it through a season in forever.

kysirsoze 09-17-2024 10:45 AM

I don't think McKinnon wants to play anymore.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 10:46 AM

If Hunt is washed, it certainly isn't from overuse. He had, what, a season and a half as a feature back here before he got the boot for punting that chick?

Then he's out for a seasons worth of games give or take, then spends 4 years as a second fiddle behind Chubb and friends in Cleveland.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17689744)
LMAO Sure, if your ego is that low that basic pointing and laughing at your lame Twitter shit posts gets you off then keep on keeping on, champ.

Others getting really upset for no real reason over unserious Twitter posts fuels me.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689764)
Others getting really upset for no real reason over unserious Twitter posts fuels me.

LMAO slow down now. No one gets really upset at your shit posts. If they did you wouldn't be here anymore. The actual good shit posters like Deberg eventually do too good of a job and get the boot.

digger 09-17-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689764)
Others getting really upset for no real reason over unserious Twitter posts fuels me.


We missed you /s tag in your re-posting of a Twitter post... And took it at face value...

BigRichard 09-17-2024 11:00 AM

We sign this piece of shit yet :)

duncan_idaho 09-17-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17689732)
Let's see, the guy who was literally scoring touchdowns in this offense last season, or a guy who hasn't been here in 6 years, and shouldn't be returning.

Hmm.

Given the choice between the two washed backs, yes I'd prefer McKinnon.

But why? Raw familiarity?

Because Hunt scored more TDs, averaged more YPC, had more yards per carry after contact, and was generally more effective than McKinnon.

Balto 09-17-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17689762)
If Hunt is washed, it certainly isn't from overuse. He had, what, a season and a half as a feature back here before he got the boot for punting that chick?

Then he's out for a seasons worth of games give or take, then spends 4 years as a second fiddle behind Chubb and friends in Cleveland.

Hunt JUST turned 29 a month ago: 1030 Rushes and 226 receptions.

Comparison:
McCaffery-28, 1297 Rushes and 509 receptions.
Henry-30, 2061 Rushes and 156 receptions.
Jonathan Taylor-25, 953 Rushes and 125 receptions
Barkley-27, 1247 Rushes and 294 receptions
Josh Jacobs-26, 1353 Rushes and 199 receptions

Pacheco-25, 409 Rushes and 64 receptions


While Hunt might be washed talent wise, his age and carries say he has plenty left in the tank.

Rainbarrel 09-17-2024 11:03 AM

Just being invited to Arrowhead for a visit shows forgiveness, if necessary. Familiarity with Steelers and Browns has some value

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KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by digger (Post 17689777)
We missed you /s tag in your re-posting of a Twitter post... And took it at face value...

Yes, I forgot how difficult it is to decipher whether a Butker/Kareem Hunt analogy to LeBron/Curry is serious. My mistake entirely.

O.city 09-17-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17689705)
Hey.

Hi.

So there was a game on Sunday where our rookie LT resembled a cross between a revolving door and a monkey trying to **** a football.

See, this ridiculous instant pressure from the blind side, it just isn't acceptable.

The best qb on the planet was held to his fewest passing yards in a game that he played start to finish. Threw 3 bad interceptions, luckily having one wiped away by a penalty.

Not only is having a 15 that is uncomfortable, pressing the issue bad, but we haven't even begun to talk about the safety risk. How long before he gets 15 obliterated?

Trey Hendrickson absolutely shoved his fist up the rookies ass and worked his mouth like a puppet on Sunday. He's not ready for the big boys yet.

If you review this rape session and still don't see a problem, find someone to watch the games with that can help you understand what you're seeing take place on the screen.

It's a 2nd round rookie LT from a non power 5 school, starting his 2nd game. I'd say giving the guy more than 2 games would be on the docket.

If he's not ready, sure ok, yeah go elsewhere. I'd hope you could have seen that before now as an organization but who knows.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17689772)
LMAO slow down now. No one gets really upset at your shit posts. If they did you wouldn't be here anymore. The actual good shit posters like Deberg eventually do too good of a job and get the boot.

If I had known a Butker/Hunt tweet spliced with a video of LeBron/Curry would upset you this much, I of course would never have posted it. What do you take me for?

dirk digler 09-17-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 17689784)
We sign this piece of shit yet :)


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kareem Hunt’s workout is over he now needs to pass a physical before the chiefs decide what to do. If he does get signed will be practice squad to start per source</p>&mdash; Bob Fescoe (@bobfescoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/bobfescoe/status/1836079088110358813?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Balto 09-17-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17689795)
Just being invited to Arrowhead for a visit shows forgiveness, if necessary. Familiarity with Steelers and Browns has some value

I'd guess they offer him the vet min and see how serious he is about trying to redeem himself.

ThrobProng 09-17-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17689791)
Hunt JUST turned 29 a month ago: 1030 Rushes and 226 receptions.

Comparison:
McCaffery-28, 1297 Rushes and 509 receptions.
Henry-30, 2061 Rushes and 156 receptions.
Jonathan Taylor-25, 953 Rushes and 125 receptions
Barkley-27, 1247 Rushes and 294 receptions
Josh Jacobs-26, 1353 Rushes and 199 receptions

Pacheco-25, 409 Rushes and 64 receptions


While Hunt might be washed talent wise, his age and carries say he has plenty left in the tank.

It's not like talent simply evaporates.

FloridaMan88 09-17-2024 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17689807)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kareem Hunt’s workout is over he now needs to pass a physical before the chiefs decide what to do. If he does get signed will be practice squad to start per source</p>&mdash; Bob Fescoe (@bobfescoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/bobfescoe/status/1836079088110358813?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems inevitable now.

DJ's left nut 09-17-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17689791)
Hunt JUST turned 29 a month ago: 1030 Rushes and 226 receptions.

Comparison:
McCaffery-28, 1297 Rushes and 509 receptions.
Henry-30, 2061 Rushes and 156 receptions.
Jonathan Taylor-25, 953 Rushes and 125 receptions
Barkley-27, 1247 Rushes and 294 receptions
Josh Jacobs-26, 1353 Rushes and 199 receptions

Pacheco-25, 409 Rushes and 64 receptions


While Hunt might be washed talent wise, his age and carries say he has plenty left in the tank.

Did he ever have a serious lower body injury.

It would seem a little strange for him to have fallen off as hard as he did, as early as he did, without much of a workload.

I mean he was 27ish when he fell to hell, no? I know he had a calf issue but damn, he was 26 at the time. A calf shouldn't fell a guy like that.

Then again, we try to talk ourselves into stuff like this all the time and 99 times of out 100, the guy's actually washed.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17689807)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kareem Hunt’s workout is over he now needs to pass a physical before the chiefs decide what to do. If he does get signed will be practice squad to start per source</p>&mdash; Bob Fescoe (@bobfescoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/bobfescoe/status/1836079088110358813?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If it is practice squad to start, they're definitely signing him.

BleedingRed 09-17-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689832)
If it is practice squad to start, they're definitely signing him.

We would probably still be promoted before Sunday

O.city 09-17-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17689831)
Did he ever have a serious lower body injury.

It would seem a little strange for him to have fallen off as hard as he did, as early as he did, without much of a workload.

I mean he was 27ish when he fell to hell, no? I know he had a calf issue but damn, he was 26 at the time. A calf shouldn't fell a guy like that.

Then again, we try to talk ourselves into stuff like this all the time and 99 times of out 100, the guy's actually washed.

He was always somewhat borderline from a speed perspective of being able to play anyway.

DJ's left nut 09-17-2024 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17689812)
It's not like talent simply evaporates.

Oh it usually does.

That really stupid ESPN show Playmakers did the best job ever of demonstrating exactly how.

The 'Old Warhorse' runningback spent the series trying to prove he was still as good as he used to be and was every bit as good as the new hot shit kid. And then in the last episode of the season, a hole opens up and he breaks into it.

I don't remember how they did it, but they contrasted him getting through the hole as a younger back with the version of him now that was just a half a step slower. And when he got there, the hole slammed shut.

The problem with a talent diminution is that the results aren't linear.

You fall off 10% in talent, you're not 90% as productive. When that happens, you're probably just not an NFL player anymore. Because you needed every last bit of that talent to clear that NFL ability threshhold.

If Hunt's fallen off 10%, he's not 90% of the player he once was. In fact, he'd be lucky to be HALF that guy.

Yeah, talent absolutely simply evaporates sometimes. Most times, in fact.

But hey, maybe Kareem is an outlier.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689804)
If I had known a Butker/Hunt tweet spliced with a video of LeBron/Curry would upset you this much, I of course would never have posted it. What do you take me for?

A bottom tier shit poster?

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 11:21 AM

Oof. Seems like a few agree with that assessment as well. Work on your troll game and you might actually rustle a jimmy or two.

crispystl 09-17-2024 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17689831)
Did he ever have a serious lower body injury.

It would seem a little strange for him to have fallen off as hard as he did, as early as he did, without much of a workload.

I mean he was 27ish when he fell to hell, no? I know he had a calf issue but damn, he was 26 at the time. A calf shouldn't fell a guy like that.

Then again, we try to talk ourselves into stuff like this all the time and 99 times of out 100, the guy's actually washed.

You never know...maybe he'll come back with fresh legs and have a bit of a resurgence.

staylor26 09-17-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689738)
Imagine being dumb enough to take that tweet in any way seriously. LMAO

The whole point of a joke is that it's supposed to be clever/funny. When it's not, people usually explain why it's a dumb joke.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17689841)
A bottom tier shit poster?

S tier I'd say, but reasonable minds differ.

ThrobProng 09-17-2024 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17689839)
Oh it usually does.

That really stupid ESPN show Playmakers did the best job ever of demonstrating exactly how.

The 'Old Warhorse' runningback spent the series trying to prove he was still as good as he used to be and was every bit as good as the new hot shit kid. And then in the last episode of the season, a hole opens up and he breaks into it.

I don't remember how they did it, but they contrasted him getting through the hole as a younger back with the version of him now that was just a half a step slower. And when he got there, the hole slammed shut.

The problem with a talent diminution is that the results aren't linear.

You fall off 10% in talent, you're not 90% as productive. When that happens, you're probably just not an NFL player anymore. Because you needed every last bit of that talent to clear that NFL ability threshhold.

If Hunt's fallen off 10%, he's not 90% of the player he once was. In fact, he'd be lucky to be HALF that guy.

Yeah, talent absolutely simply evaporates sometimes. Most times, in fact.

But hey, maybe Kareem is an outlier.

I define talent as innate ability that is there even after the body no longer allows that talent to be displayed. If Hunt isn't beaten up physically, there is no reason he can't do most or all of the things he did in 2018. He wasn't a speedster even as a rookie.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17689846)
The whole point of a joke is that it's supposed to be clever/funny. When it's not, people usually explain why it's a dumb joke.

I don't think anybody would accuse the tweet of high comedy, no.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689847)
S tier I'd say, but reasonable minds differ.

Nah. That's Hammock and Hootie tier. Guys that can actually provide excitement. You're firmly bottom tier precisely because you offer none of that. Be a better shit poster, please and thanks.

DJ's left nut 09-17-2024 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17689849)
I define talent as innate ability that is there even after the body no longer allows that talent to be displayed. If Hunt isn't beaten up physically, there is no reason he can't do most or all of the things he did in 2018. He wasn't a speedster even as a rookie.

Oh.

I'm sorry - I presumed your definition of 'talent' actually made sense in my response to you.

My bad.

Carry on...

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17689854)
Nah. That's Hammock and Hootie tier. Guys that can actually provide excitement. You're firmly bottom tier precisely because you offer none of that. Be a better shit poster, please and thanks.

Well at least basketball season is around the corner. That's when I peak.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689857)
Well at least basketball season is around the corner. That's when I peak.

Yeah, but that's a niche thread and let's be honest, more than half of that is staylor raging into the void at LeBron.

ThrobProng 09-17-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17689855)
Oh.

I'm sorry - I presumed your definition of 'talent' actually made sense in my response to you.

My bad.

Carry on...

So you think the instant a player suffers a career-ending injury, all of their talent vanishes? Talk about not making sense.

FloridaMan88 09-17-2024 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17689849)
I define talent as innate ability that is there even after the body no longer allows that talent to be displayed. If Hunt isn't beaten up physically, there is no reason he can't do most or all of the things he did in 2018. He wasn't a speedster even as a rookie.

You are denying the impacts of aging on said “talent”?

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17689860)
Yeah, but that's a niche thread and let's be honest, more than half of that is staylor raging into the void at LeBron.

You're right, LeBron really does make the job easy when virtually anything he does or says makes others irrationally angry.

ThrobProng 09-17-2024 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17689863)
You are denying the impacts of aging on said “talent”?

Aging doesn't reduce talent, but it reduces the ability to use talent so it's basically the same thing.

A 29-year-old with relatively low mileage on the odometer should still be good to go if he's kept himself in shape.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:36 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kareem Hunt meeting with Brett Veach<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6O8zmCiEsa">pic.twitter.com/6O8zmCiEsa</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Kingdom Memes - CKM (@kcchiefsmmz) <a href="https://twitter.com/kcchiefsmmz/status/1835874477042717057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Does this shit post work better for everyone?

ThaVirus 09-17-2024 11:36 AM

Someone get Kimble Anders on the horn!

RollChiefsRoll 09-17-2024 11:36 AM

Holy shit we’re actually gonna resign Kareem Hunt.

New World Order 09-17-2024 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689876)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kareem Hunt meeting with Brett Veach<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6O8zmCiEsa">pic.twitter.com/6O8zmCiEsa</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Kingdom Memes - CKM (@kcchiefsmmz) <a href="https://twitter.com/kcchiefsmmz/status/1835874477042717057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Does this shit post work better for everyone?

That’s better.

Thank you

PAChiefsGuy 09-17-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689857)
Well at least basketball season is around the corner. That's when I peak.

If peaking means 1,000 posts every month sucking off LeBron in the CP NBA thread then yes, that is when you peak.

displacedinMN 09-17-2024 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 17689879)
Holy shit we’re actually gonna resign Kareem Hunt.

Unpopular opinion---He should have never been cut

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17689884)
If peaking means 1,000 posts every month sucking off LeBron in the CP NBA thread then yes, that is when you peak.

I think we can safely file you in the "irrationally angry" group referred to above.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689876)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kareem Hunt meeting with Brett Veach<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6O8zmCiEsa">pic.twitter.com/6O8zmCiEsa</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Kingdom Memes - CKM (@kcchiefsmmz) <a href="https://twitter.com/kcchiefsmmz/status/1835874477042717057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Does this shit post work better for everyone?

It's better. But there literally wasn't anywhere to go but up.

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17689889)
Unpopular opinion---He should have never been cut

I wouldn't have, but I'm also not the guy he lied to and that's where he really went wrong on that front.

KCJake 09-17-2024 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17689874)
A 29-year-old with relatively low mileage on the odometer should still be good to go if he's kept himself in shape.

This is where I'm at on it too. Most of it depends on what the guys been up the last 4-6 months. Hopefully he's stayed in shape and is ready to roll. Let's go baby !

PAChiefsGuy 09-17-2024 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689895)
I think we can safely file you in the "irrationally angry" group referred to above.

Put me under any category you want. I could careless what you think about me broski.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17689899)
This is where I'm at on it too. Most of it depends on what the guys been up the last 4-6 months. Hopefully he's stayed in shape and is ready to roll. Let's go baby !

Hell yeah!!!!

displacedinMN 09-17-2024 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689898)
I wouldn't have, but I'm also not the guy he lied to and that's where he really went wrong on that front.

If the cops or the security would have done something, the horny 20 year old would not have been around-banging on the door.

DenverChief 09-17-2024 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17689839)
Oh it usually does.

That really stupid ESPN show Playmakers did the best job ever of demonstrating exactly how.

The 'Old Warhorse' runningback spent the series trying to prove he was still as good as he used to be and was every bit as good as the new hot shit kid. And then in the last episode of the season, a hole opens up and he breaks into it.

I don't remember how they did it, but they contrasted him getting through the hole as a younger back with the version of him now that was just a half a step slower. And when he got there, the hole slammed shut.

The problem with a talent diminution is that the results aren't linear.

You fall off 10% in talent, you're not 90% as productive. When that happens, you're probably just not an NFL player anymore. Because you needed every last bit of that talent to clear that NFL ability threshhold.

If Hunt's fallen off 10%, he's not 90% of the player he once was. In fact, he'd be lucky to be HALF that guy.

Yeah, talent absolutely simply evaporates sometimes. Most times, in fact.

But hey, maybe Kareem is an outlier.

He scored 9 rushing TD's last year - the most of his career. I think using him wisely is the key to his success. He will never be an effective every down back again but he certainly can be a part of a RBBC

BleedingRed 09-17-2024 11:59 AM

Cannot wait to pick him up on FF

Rainbarrel 09-17-2024 12:03 PM

Making fans happy putting a guy on the practice squad. I do not envy Steele if he fumbles again

ToxSocks 09-17-2024 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17689839)
Oh it usually does.

That really stupid ESPN show Playmakers did the best job ever of demonstrating exactly how.

The 'Old Warhorse' runningback spent the series trying to prove he was still as good as he used to be and was every bit as good as the new hot shit kid. And then in the last episode of the season, a hole opens up and he breaks into it.

I don't remember how they did it, but they contrasted him getting through the hole as a younger back with the version of him now that was just a half a step slower. And when he got there, the hole slammed shut.

The problem with a talent diminution is that the results aren't linear.

You fall off 10% in talent, you're not 90% as productive. When that happens, you're probably just not an NFL player anymore. Because you needed every last bit of that talent to clear that NFL ability threshhold.

If Hunt's fallen off 10%, he's not 90% of the player he once was. In fact, he'd be lucky to be HALF that guy.

Yeah, talent absolutely simply evaporates sometimes. Most times, in fact.

But hey, maybe Kareem is an outlier.

Exactly.

When people say, "as long as he's 75% of the player he use to be...." i kinda roll my eyes. 75% of the player he use to be isn't an NFL player anymore.

People just dont understand how slim the margins are.

Now, i dont really agree with you yet on Kelce as i havent looked myself. But i agree with you here on this point.

penguinz 09-17-2024 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17689791)
Hunt JUST turned 29 a month ago: 1030 Rushes and 226 receptions.

Comparison:
McCaffery-28, 1297 Rushes and 509 receptions.
Henry-30, 2061 Rushes and 156 receptions.
Jonathan Taylor-25, 953 Rushes and 125 receptions
Barkley-27, 1247 Rushes and 294 receptions
Josh Jacobs-26, 1353 Rushes and 199 receptions

Pacheco-25, 409 Rushes and 64 receptions


While Hunt might be washed talent wise, his age and carries say he has plenty left in the tank.

JFC... If you are washed then you have nothing left in the tank.

DenverChief 09-17-2024 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17689940)
Exactly.

When people say, "as long as he's 75% of the player he use to be...." i kinda roll my eyes. 75% of the player he use to be isn't an NFL player anymore.

People just dont understand how slim the margins are.

Now, i dont really agree with you yet on Kelce as i havent looked myself. But i agree with you here on this point.

:doh!: 9 TD's last year disagree with your assessment.

UChieffyBugger 09-17-2024 12:53 PM

The crazy thing is last season he never did a camp and missed the first two games aswell. Then Chubb got injured and he was signed straight away and played his first game on September 24th at home against the Titans. So if we sign him at least he can lean on last year's experience. In total he had nine td's in the regular season and actually had TWO td's in that playoff game in Houston. The one thing that hasn't seemed to have changed since he left is his ability inside the ten. He was always great in punching the ball in from there.

One more thing I'll add is people are talking about Hunt's age but when Jet Mckinnon was thirty years old he got us nine receiving TD's, one rushing TD and 803 total yards. And that's a man who had missed two seasons due to injury. So I have faith Kareem could still be very effective for this team once he gets up to speed.

Pitt Gorilla 09-17-2024 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17689799)
Yes, I forgot how difficult it is to decipher whether a Butker/Kareem Hunt analogy to LeBron/Curry is serious. My mistake entirely.

Zero people were actually dumb enough to take that post seriously or to be upset by it.

BEAVER 09-17-2024 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17689874)
Aging doesn't reduce talent, but it reduces the ability to use talent so it's basically the same thing.

A 29-year-old with relatively low mileage on the odometer should still be good to go if he's kept himself in shape.

Donger?? Has to be Donger.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-17-2024 01:08 PM

Listening to Sirius this morning, Nex Gen stats had Hunt as the slowest RB in the NFL last year

Jewish Rabbi 09-17-2024 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17690042)
Listening to Sirius this morning, Nex Gen stats had Hunt as the slowest RB in the NFL last year

Hopefully we’re playing against Ben Niemann then.

Dante84 09-17-2024 01:15 PM

Signed to the PS

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reunion: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are signing their own former star RB Kareem Hunt, who visited with and worked out for the team today, source says. Hell start on the PS and help fill the void left by Isiah Pacheco’s injury, which will put him out potentially two months. <a href="https://t.co/yqlv7F4Suz">pic.twitter.com/yqlv7F4Suz</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1836121794517815665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KCJake 09-17-2024 01:16 PM

Oh snap. Let's party

myselff77 09-17-2024 01:19 PM

If the Chiefs sign Hunt for depth it's fine.
This is the equivalent of Le'veon Bell, Melvin Gordon or whatever rerun at RB the Chiefs have signed the past couple years. If Hunt gets a couple carries for a few yards, great. If he's cut in a few weeks, so be it. If the magical powers of Mahomes causes him to regain the fountain of youth and he runs for 500 yards... well Chiefs.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-17-2024 01:21 PM

Sign me up for Kareem Hunt scoring in a Super Bowl LIX win.

DJ's left nut 09-17-2024 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17689861)
So you think the instant a player suffers a career-ending injury, all of their talent vanishes? Talk about not making sense.

I think you're defining the term so broadly as to make it useless in any sort of dialogue.

For instance, no, I don't say 'Albert Pujols is a talented hitter'

I say he WAS a talented hitter. He's old now.

And I suspect in casual conversation when you aren't being a pedant, you do the same thing.

If no...whatev. As I said, to each their own.

TwistedChief 09-17-2024 01:22 PM

I love it.

He was always one of the most fun players on the sidelines. Good vibes needed with someone like Pacheco going down.

Pitt Gorilla 09-17-2024 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17690054)
Signed to the PS

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reunion: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are signing their own former star RB Kareem Hunt, who visited with and worked out for the team today, source says. Hell start on the PS and help fill the void left by Isiah Pacheco’s injury, which will put him out potentially two months. <a href="https://t.co/yqlv7F4Suz">pic.twitter.com/yqlv7F4Suz</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1836121794517815665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That makes sense.

KC Hawks 09-17-2024 01:24 PM

Congratulations to Kareem Hunt for getting his first Super Bowl ring!!!

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17690012)
Zero people were actually dumb enough to take that post seriously or to be upset by it.

One would certainly have assumed that given the post, but you can never underestimate people.

DRM08 09-17-2024 01:30 PM

Kareem is still a very good short yardage RB, which happens to be a major weakness for the Chiefs. He got 9 TD’s last year despite averaging only 3 yards per carry. Would be awesome if he can make a big difference in picking up first downs & TD’s in short yardage.

smithandrew051 09-17-2024 01:31 PM

LFG

KC_Connection 09-17-2024 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17690078)
He is still a very good short yardage RB, which happens to be a major weakness for the Chiefs. He got 9 TD’s last year despite averaging only 3 yards per carry. Would be awesome if he can make a big difference in picking up first downs & TD’s in short yardage.

Give me 3 yards a carry, no fumbles and good blocking and I'll take it.


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