I think it is smart to trade players you just signed so you paid some dude 40 million dollars for half a season and then when you have to hire a GM and a HC they literally have no building block players, that is a great idea.

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That should start with Kollman talking about how the Browns can save money on Watson if not go to like 31 minutes.

I blame Madden. You know damn well O gave 3 firsts for OBJ and Clowney. 2 years ago and thinks it's reality

Down vote all you want. It's a dumb suggestion

Yea the NFL isn't the NBA, you can't just trade away all your players and tank on purpose, this isn't a we get 2-3 guys we're in type of league.

Now it's one thing to tank while keeping your building block players.

None of these guys would return close the value the teams need anyway.

3 years of great cost control and the Saints are gifting us Lattimore for a 3rd? Seriously?

The ONLY reason that one makes any sense at all is because they have massive salary cap problems. Like we might have to cut half the team problems. They have been pushing shit further out every year and now they suck and have that problem.

I could buy that team trading a nearing 30 CB because they aren't winning and have to cut him anyway, that's far different than like Myles Garrett.

Most of it is wishful thinking rather than reality

Until you get a QB there, you can spin your wheels all you want I guess. Seems Chiefs fans would have an idea about that.

Go take a look at their salary cap, the Saints literally have by far the worst salary cap situation, it might be the worst one I've ever seen.

"The Chiefs would never trade away Tyreek Hill"

Stop living in 2002. New GM's aren't scared to actually do shit.

So you think they should move those guys when the best QB's are Carson Beck and Shedeur Sanders?

They will probably have a new QB next season.

I know I will never win the lottery but a guy can dream.

Cleveland is 41 mil over next year, before they do anything with Watson (if they even can, depending on his rehab).

They also have no draft picks early.

Watch that video about how much money they can get back on Watson...

For Sanders maybe, but you'd also have 2 firsts the next year.

If you don't like the QB's, stock up on whoever you wanna draft. Or keep Garrett and keep being shitty.

Those things aren't mutually exclusive, you can keep Garrett and not be shitty also.

The Lions coulda kept Stafford too. And on and on.

The issue is hitting on the picks you get though.

Nah, the browns are incredibly hamstrung by watsons next 2 years of cap obligations. You simply can’t build around his contract. Get as many picks as you can, get rid of your dead money, tank this year and nab a first round qb, and do everything you can to be ready to compete as soon as you hit year 3. Their main motivation is to get rid of Deshaun’s dead money as soon as humanly possible. This was their last shot and it didn’t work.

And best way to do that is to clear out their entire cap so they can pay him off sooner and so they have a tremendously low cap in 3 years when they actually have ability to spend. They’ve been kicking the can down the road so far by now that they’re at a point of no return. No bandaid is going to fix this.

They can get some of it back in 26 if he misses time next year on the cap so that will help, but it depends on him.

So no one watched that video I'm guessing.

It depends how much time he misses next year. If he's back early ish they aren't getting much back.

Something tells me they both have a lot of reasons for him to not play early in the year.

When these moves don't happen ill be back at the deadline ROFL

Not playing is one thing, but if he deems he's healthy, and they wanna have him out because they wanna keep $, that's gonna be an issue.

Oh they won't get traded.

And they'll both be on shit teams next year again. Tale as old as time.

I think the guy is laying out an absolute absolute best case scenario. But also leaving out some important details. Even if Watson misses 75% of next year (and you can bet the CBA will fight the browns if they even think about trying to fudge this) they’re still paying $70m to a quarterback they don’t want to use.

Keep in mind the browns have been charging a massive debt to their credit card for years knowing the day was coming soon. So it isn’t just Deshaun, it’s ALL the players they’ve backloaded. They have tons and tons of dead cap obligations beyond Deshaun next year too.

So yeah their top motivation is to get out of the hole as quickly as possible

"I want to play with the next Super Bowl MVP," Bakhtiari said. "So wherever the hell that's gonna be, I better be with him.” - OT David Bakhtiari

Says he has a few seasons left in him.

https://www.si.com/nfl/david-bakhtia...ple-years-left

I still think Mike Williams makes a ton of sense.

He’s a great downfield guy, low cost, available and ready to revive his career in KC.

I would agree with you. Except both Stafford and Kupp are still on the trade block for some reason. Just saying, I would at least make a phone call.

As of Thursday, Roster Management System (h/t ESPN.com) estimated the Chiefs as having $3.8 million in cap room. Taylor's restructure will bump that number up to $9.1 million.

Getting Stafford sounds intriguing, but I'm thinking Mahomes still has some life in him. I think we should stick with Pat. Kupp is interesting though.

With Williams and Johnson I don't really think they need to give up anything significant for another CB. Its pretty much the deepest position on the whole team.

Vet minimum and give him an eligible receiver number.

Use him as an extra blocker **** it.

Lol, yeah me too.

The whole wanting to trade Stafford doesn’t make any sense to me. I can’t rationalize it at all.

I also think Bakhtiari should be the target. Mahomes has had issues trusting his protection this season, even when he had a healthy Rice. Its one of the big reasons for his slow start to the season.

Unless something happens like an injury, there's no chance they're bringing in another LT.

Especially one with a ****ed up back and had missed 38!! games the past 3 seasons. It's wild how people still want him.

Really low chance they are bringing anyone else either.. The cap space they made with the Taylor rework will give them just enough to move roster players around.. Bring guys off on the PS to the 53 costs money in roster bonuses.. They have been operating under 53 for that reason for awhile.. Rostering around 51 for most of the season..

I guess we can see how both play when given the chance, but Williams has went from a likely starter to a bench warmer with an undrafted player getting more snaps. And Johnson has been the worst CB on the team for awhile now. He gets beat consistently.

Kyle Long worked out so well :rolleyes:

There it is! Nice pick up!

OT Bahktari and WR Mike Williams next? CB? …couple more buy-low options out there.

Where is Chris Manno

May as well put Jody Fortson in there

His footwork was insane

Probably you guys already discussed it, but Schefter reported today that CAR will almost move Diontae by the deadline.

WE need a corner........

Can't really get worse. Worse is league worst.

https://i.imgur.com/Fp8Y2V7.png

I know. I’m sitting here in a waiting room bored out of my mind. Cut me some slack

How about Kendall Fuller from Miami? They paid Ramsey so they might wanna move on from Fuller and save some cap next season?

Deonte Banks was just seemingly benched. Remember there being some scuttlebutt that he was one of the targets Veach had in mind when trying to trade up.

That’s the the kind of move I could really
Get behind. Much prefer it to sinking a nice asset into Lattimore.

Fuller plays more the hybrid nickle/safety and not on the outside. We need a #2 outside corner opposite McDuffie.

Kinda like a Toney of DBs move.

Big time athlete with years remaining on his rookie deal.

Could you find a better talent in the mid rounds?

You basically draft that guy with whatever pick you trade. Still has 2 years left and the 5th year option.

Hopefully, he creates as many interceptions as Toney did.

TreDavious White?
 

Rams have given permission to seek a trade, any interest?

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...o-seek-a-trade

He’s completely cooked. Really really bad

Seems like a Veach special. First rounder in 2023. At a minimum, depth this year, with the upside of a high end starter opposite McDuffie for the next several years on a rookie contract if it works.

Get it done LMAO

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It would be hilarious if the Chiefs grab Tre White and they defeat Buffalo in the Playoffs after Buffalo fans tried to spin a narrative that Buffalo won the Mahomes trade.

Are there any suggestions on who we could go after as a LT in a trade. I think if we got someone good that we could hope to keep we should certainly be able to give up our number one choice next year, and maybe one of our threes. But I have no idea who might be a possibility. Maybe others do. I probably haven’t read every post in this thread, but I don’t think I’ve seen any suggestions for a trade like this. Maybe there are no such possibilities.

Couple of Miami beat writers think Armstead could be had /shrug

Is it unrealistic to still expect a WR? I am not necessarily asking for a massive trade I just think we are thin at the position

I really didn’t see this Pass rusher move coming

With Brown and jjss returning, probably.

I think so too

Chiefs are preparing for Josh Allen on Nov 17th and the playoffs

Could he be worse than Williams? I mean, really?

we ok on wide receivers we got to remember that pat is now feeling it he getting his grooves back. in fact mark it down he'll have 260 yards or higher this monday.

If they’re confident that Brown’s coming back, it would be foolish to use resources on another WR. LT and CB are bigger needs.

I think there’s still room for one more move to be made…

OT Bahktari
WR Williams
CB?

I still think WRs can be in play. It is not necessary but it is probably the easiest position to get another one of these 6th/7th round trades that cost us nothing. Thing about WR is you can easily plug and play a role guy. Players like elijah Moore or zay jones can easily be used as a depth WR whereas i feel the chiefs would be reluctant at this point to plug in a LT or WR1.

CB at this point makes the most sense for that reason. But I don’t think that prevents us from seeking out another WR.

Bahktari is washed. Williams may be also.

William might NOT be washed too tho, I don't think we need help at WR anymore. DB is a bigger positional need based off injuries.

maybe.

If any one thought Bahk was an option he'd at least be on a practice squad so coaches could get a look.

Agree with the DB part.

Fair point.

What would you give up for Armstead?

I don’t think I’m into Williams. If we’re going for a WR who can’t figure out where to line up might as well roll with Justyn Ross and see what he can learn from dhop. Or if we can evolve the offense to help both of these guys get targets outside. For WR we either go very big on a long term option like diontae or an easy plug and play option like Elijah Moore. Our priority right now is more OT and CB (which is more likely easier to trade for).