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picasso 05-06-2003 05:04 PM

Hey take it from Kobe now folks, it's a long series and the Lakers know what it takes to go a long series (as Kobe mentioned after the Lakers beat the Wolves). The first 2 games you kind of test each other out, and then break down the individual players and match ups and utilize your strengths to your advantage.

duh!!!!

The Twolves didn't have any strengths other than Hudson. And Flip Saunders would take the man out in the fourth period of each one of the last 3 games that they lost. It was coaching that lost that series against the Lakers. Bad coaching. Oh and inexperience.

What I love about them playing the Spurs is that Shaq is getting the calls on him. FINALLY!!! Elbows to the face, stepping across the free throw line, 3 second violations and traveling. I love it.
But watch, the next game will be a new crew calling it totally the other way and just may when the game for them.

The one thing I didn't like about the game last night was the dirty plays by Horry. There were so many flagrants initiated by that man it was sick. The one that was obvious was called but the one before where he fell on the floor and leaned up to floor check Bowens at the knees to keep him from getting to Kobe's 2nd 3 pointer should have been an ejection. Intentional unsportmanlike crap.
GO KINGS!!!

BIG_DADDY 05-06-2003 05:09 PM

KCCFT,

Don't really want to debate centers right now but I will say that Shaq is bringing more this year. Better free throw shooting, a new hook shot and he is shooting from further back as well. He is working on his game and getting better.

picasso,

Losing George will hurt the Lakers. They have to move Kobe down to small forward and rework the entire O. Should be interesting.

TEX 05-06-2003 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BIG_DADDY
KCCFT,

Don't really want to debate centers right now but I will say that Shaq is bringing more this year. Better free throw shooting, a new hook shot and he is shooting from further back as well. He is working on his game and getting better.

picasso,

Losing George will hurt the Lakers. They have to move Kobe down to small forward and rework the entire O. Should be interesting.

Fine, then we'll save that debate for another time. I do not feel that Shaq has brought anything unique to the game or has done anything to improve the game by his game. The truly great ones that I mentioned have.

AJKCFAN 05-07-2003 10:41 PM

These Are Getting To Be A Common Occurrence
 
Fishing this out of the middle pages (Page 5 this time)... I regret to inform Chiefs Planet that the bandwagon Circle Jerkers will not be here tonight whooping it up... once again.

Hey, stand in and take it like a man, win or lose. I mean, the Iraqi Army put up more of a fight defending their cause than the Circle Jerkers have been. Even the Mavericks interior D is tougher than you guys....

Do I, a die-hard Kings fan, have to say it and rally the Circle Jerkers to come back on a team which is 6-0 over their Dying-sty? That the series is far from over?

The jaws aren't flapping from the Circle Jerkers anymore.... mainly because the scoop is out. The Dying-sty are beatable.

VERY beatable.

In fact, you get past the Big Two and this team has absolutely nothing.

How Cal_Injun can bash "Euros" all day long and now has to rely on Slava Medevenko to help save the Dying-sty? Memo to Cal_Injun: how would "Euros" Peja or Hedo look in Laker gold right now?

The Dying-sty played 10 men tonight; 6 of which who would not make the Kings roster (need I say them?... well, I will: Medevenko, Shaw, Rush, Pargo, Madsen, Walker... and they played a combined 108 minutes, or 108 more minutes than they would playing in Sac-Town)

Now, for the 2nd straight series, Kobe and Shaq have to shoulder the load, 2 vs 8.. and I don't care how young Kobe is or how much healthier Shaq is than last year, in these grueling playoffs, they are close to exhaustion.

Still think they'll pull out this series... although thinking that seems more and more ridiculous with each game I see the Dying-sty play.

If they somehow do, you just watch how the Kings are going to rip their skulls off. Get ready to be whacked. (please copy.... :titus: )

Y'all don't scare me and your Dying-sty doesn't scare the Kings either (or the Spurs for that matter)....

Chiefs Pantalones 05-07-2003 10:54 PM

AJKC,

Sure, the Lakers have some injuries, but whoever the GM and owner is of the Lakers deserves to get his butt kicked. Why would you surround Shaq and Kobe with the crap like they've got now? I'm shocked that they've won 3 straight championships with those crappy roll players, for real. I hear all this crap that they are strapped by the salary cap, but give me a break...if the Kings, Mavs, etc, can do it, then the Lakers can. They can afford more talent than they have. Shaq and Kobe won't win it all for them anymore. The Spurs, Kings, etc, have gotten deep (depth) while the Lakers have stood pat...pretty soon, one of the teams I have mentioned may just pass the Lakers by, due to the committment to the status quo. FWIW, I heard a couple of days ago that Phil Jackson has butted heads with the front office because of this. He doesn't want to stand pat.

It's ridiculous. You'd think they'd want to get better. I know they're 3 time champs, but teams are about to pass them by.

The Bad Guy 05-07-2003 11:10 PM

I'm a Lakers fan and I'm here.

I've been a Laker fan since I started watching basketball when I was real young.

This is a defeated Lakers team. I said before this game began that LA was in big trouble to a couple of my friends and my prediction held true.

Robert Horry, while he has hit big shots, is completely worthless during these playoffs. He gets manhandeled by Duncan, is afraid to take his trademark 3's, and just makes stupid stupid decisions.

Bowen is doing an incredible job on Kobe (best I've ever seen) and besides Shaq, no players want to step up.

Brian Shaw should not be starting. Rush should be. Shaw just brings nothing to the table besides an occasional 3.

Cody is right. The GM and the owner are the reasons that the Lakers won't repeat again this year. The last three years, the Lakers have been lucky not to have been bitten by the injury bug during the playoffs, but this year is different and the lack of talent outside Shaq and Kobe is really glaring.

If they do lose this series, hopefully the only good thing that comes out of it is it lights a match under the front offices ass. There are some good power forwards available in FA this year. (Juwan Howard, PJ Brown, Karl Malone). I'm pretty certain that LA can lure one of those guys there for the mid-level exception.

You will see what the Lakers character is made out of on Friday night. Their character has been tested, but never like this in the last three years. The Spurs have beaten them at every aspect of the game.

If Bowen keeps playing the way he has, and Manu makes all the hustle plays and contributes 10-15 points a night I really don't see how the Lakers stand a chance. As a LA fan, that's a humbling statement to make.

The fact that they had 10 combined assists tonight and 11 the other night tells me how much Shaq and Kobe really don't trust the other 3 jerkoffs on the court with them.

I'm a diehard fan, I'm just willing to accept the truth. The Spurs have the better team this year.

The Bad Guy 05-07-2003 11:14 PM

Adam,

I find it pretty funny how you refer to the Lakers as the dying-sty when the Kings have never won shit.

I can take my lumps from a Spurs fan about the fact they are kicking LA's ass, but exactly what stripes have the Kings earned for you to talk smack about a dynasty to the Lakers? LA knocked them out of the playoffs three straight years for christ sake.

Go ahead, blame the refs like I expect you will do.

Logical 05-07-2003 11:15 PM

Just checking in to say my team is sucking big time. Pitiful exhibition thus far.

ShortRoundChief 05-07-2003 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Bad Guy
I'm a Lakers fan and I'm here.

I've been a Laker fan since I started watching basketball when I was real young.

This is a defeated Lakers team. I said before this game began that LA was in big trouble to a couple of my friends and my prediction held true.

Robert Horry, while he has hit big shots, is completely worthless during these playoffs. He gets manhandeled by Duncan, is afraid to take his trademark 3's, and just makes stupid stupid decisions.

Bowen is doing an incredible job on Kobe (best I've ever seen) and besides Shaq, no players want to step up.

Brian Shaw should not be starting. Rush should be. Shaw just brings nothing to the table besides an occasional 3.

Cody is right. The GM and the owner are the reasons that the Lakers won't repeat again this year. The last three years, the Lakers have been lucky not to have been bitten by the injury bug during the playoffs, but this year is different and the lack of talent outside Shaq and Kobe is really glaring.

If they do lose this series, hopefully the only good thing that comes out of it is it lights a match under the front offices ass. There are some good power forwards available in FA this year. (Juwan Howard, PJ Brown, Karl Malone). I'm pretty certain that LA can lure one of those guys there for the mid-level exception.

You will see what the Lakers character is made out of on Friday night. Their character has been tested, but never like this in the last three years. The Spurs have beaten them at every aspect of the game.

If Bowen keeps playing the way he has, and Manu makes all the hustle plays and contributes 10-15 points a night I really don't see how the Lakers stand a chance. As a LA fan, that's a humbling statement to make.

The fact that they had 10 combined assists tonight and 11 the other night tells me how much Shaq and Kobe really don't trust the other 3 jerkoffs on the court with them.

I'm a diehard fan, I'm just willing to accept the truth. The Spurs have the better team this year.


Good outlook on this. Nothing worse than someone who refuses to admit every once in a while there is a team better than they support. Usually it is the refs. I salute you. :toast:

AJKCFAN 05-07-2003 11:48 PM

No... won't be blaming the refs. Believe me, it HURTS real bad that the Dying-sty may not make it to the next round, where the Kings will trample them.

I'll take some comfort in knowing that the beginning of the end of the Dying-sty was last year vs the Kings. The Kings were truly the first team since the Dying-sty was born (note: Portland series in 2000 occurred before the Dying-sty won their 1st title) that "punched the Lakers in the mouth" (which Christie literally did in the preseason to washed up Rick Fox)... and it took a combination of fortunate events for the Kings to lose that series, not the other way around.

The big bad Lakers looked mortal and in sports, (as well as in life), once the cracks of weakness start to show from whomever holds power, their days are numbered. That's exactly what the Kings did and now the chickens have come home to roost....

"Kings haven't won shit". So true. Better get that statement in while you still can...

I've let you and other Circle Jerkers give me the business for years, so try taking a taste of your own medicine.

I find it "pretty funny" the lack of support Dying-sty fans have. This is the THIRD time in these playoffs I've had to rescue this thread from falling into the Planet Abyss. Why me? And why the lack of support? Don't you believe in your team anymore? Are they not the incredible team you all said they were before the playoffs started?

As for the Kings-Dallas, Game 2, I fully expect Dallas to bring their A game. They really have no other choice. Lose here and the series will not come back to Dallas. So Dirk, Nash, Van Exel, and Finley I expect to play like warriors. I expect LaFrentz, Najera, Griffin, Walt Williams and Bradley to be men and play an aggressive, physical game (expected from Najera and Griffin).

If the Kings have discovered the championship attitude they've been trying to convince everyone that they have, then Dallas' A game will make for a great game, but a Kings win regardless. If the Kings have the attitude that Dallas will roll over and die, it will be 1-1 and we'll have a series. In short, if the Kings mean business, the Kings get out of Big D with the 2-0 stranglehold.

If the Kings lose Game 2... a wonderful idea for all the Dying-sty fans following a playoff loss. I'll be here, taking the lumps, just like Game 3 of the Jazz series. Just like the series past with the Lakers and even the Jazz from 1999.

If the Kings win, I'll let my silence speak for itself, for I expect my team to win... and I'll let this thread fall into the Planet Abyss for one more night.

Chief Faithful 05-08-2003 06:33 AM

Quote:

Cody is right. The GM and the owner are the reasons that the Lakers won't repeat again this year. The last three years, the Lakers have been lucky not to have been bitten by the injury bug during the playoffs, but this year is different and the lack of talent outside Shaq and Kobe is really glaring.
I agree the lack of depth is the difference between this Lakers team and the one we saw role throught the playoffs the last three years. Outside of Kobe and Shaq there is nobody stepping up.

The lack of depth is why I saw the Fox injury as the death nail to the Lakers championship aspirations this year. Fox may not be the player he was a few years ago but, he is an intense intelligent player who filled holes on defense. Fox allowed Kobe to roam the way he does. Always has that role player that makes a silent difference. In Chicago it was Toni Kukoc, in LA it is Rick Fox.

ROYC75 05-08-2003 08:30 AM

Yep, I would say the Lakers have there work cut out for them, down 0-2.........

BTA, I expected them to anyway........... Like many of you Laker faithfuls on here, I agree, no bench .


Maybe next year the Lakers can start it over again.

KCTitus 05-08-2003 01:34 PM

Quote:

Official Laker-Hater Championship thread. Whining encouraged!!
Indeed...

BIG_DADDY 05-08-2003 02:44 PM

AJKCFAN,

What are you talking about I have been here the entire time talking with you about the games. You can joke all you want about the Dying-sty but bottom line is won't take much to make that team come back and spank the Queens like they have always done before. MOF, they are just one good power forward away from being there. There will be changes made in LA at the end of the season but to say that the Lake show is dying just because they may not win their 4th consecutive title is assinine. The Queens will never win 3 straight titles.

TEX 05-08-2003 03:43 PM

Man I LOVE watching the the SPURS SPANK the Lake (soon to be LATE) Show. I LOVE hearing the ZEN Master BENEFACTOR of being handed teams LOADED with talent say stuff like, "They (the refs) aren't letting Shaq play like he's always played before." Translation - they're NOT letting Shaq GET AWAY WITH MURDER EVERY TIME HE'S IN the PAINT! This is a FUN series. Still sticking to my prediction of SPURS in 6! :toast:

The Bad Guy 05-08-2003 03:49 PM

Quote:

What are you talking about I have been here the entire time talking with you about the games. You can joke all you want about the Dying-sty but bottom line is won't take much to make that team come back and spank the Queens like they have always done before. MOF, they are just one good power forward away from being there. There will be changes made in LA at the end of the season but to say that the Lake show is dying just because they may not win their 4th consecutive title is assinine. The Queens will never win 3 straight titles.
Big Daddy,

He's too busy trying to give the Queens credit for the Lakers downfall so I would take what he says with a grain of salt. Like what happened last May has ANY baring on what has happened this year. He has to try to give the Queens some type of moral victory over the Lakers because they are never good enough to take a playoff series from them.

The Queens will never win two straight titles, and even winning one is going to be a stretch. But let him continue to gloat. No matter what happens to the Lakers this season ( and I have gone on record saying they won't win this Spurs series) I will make sure to pull up these posts when the Queens pull their annual playoff choke job.

BIG_DADDY 05-08-2003 04:10 PM

Bad Guy,

What's funny is they are still crying about last season, good god get over it already. If he thinks this is the end of Kobe and Shaq getting titles he needs to get off the crack pipe. BTW, did you see Webber crying his eyes out about the officiating when they were already killing the Mavs? I would hate to think that the NBA would need to hire a crew to follow all these guys around and wipe up all their tears all the time. Certainly NOT what I want to see in a champion. IMO the Queens will have their hands full if the Spurs are playing like they are right now. I think I would have to pull for the Spurs in that series if it happens even though I could really could care less who wins. If the Lakers can't win it I would like to see David Robinson leave on a high note. The man is a class act.

PinkFloyd 05-08-2003 05:23 PM

I love the Kings with all my heart, but I honestly think this might be the Spurs' year. But; I would just like to see them play the Lakers and hopefully get the jinx off their back. Alway's remember ---- it's tough to beat the team that's always there at the end of the year ---- like the Laker's. That's either down 2-0, or being a 5th seed like the Lakers. ( not sure what their seeding was )...... But; the Laker's have no bench --- something the Kings do have. On the other hand ---- the Spur's have the twin tower's. But; I do believe the champ will come from the Western Conference. The Eastern Conference just doesn't play tough and rough enough. Not even Kenyon Martin. I honestly picked the Spur's or Kings to win it all this year. I just hink there's toooooooo much finger pointing going on with the Lakers. Funny thing is ---- Phil Jackson just seems to let them work it out ---- or crumble. Well See !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

big nasty kcnut 05-08-2003 07:12 PM

i hate the lake show the bunch of bitches

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BIG_DADDY
If he thinks this is the end of Kobe and Shaq getting titles he needs to get off the crack pipe.
Think again. I use the word Dying-sty to indicate this season. Shaq and Kobe are the 2 best players in the league. You're right. I'd be nuts to think it's all over for them winning championships. All they need to do is give them a better collection of players, for what they have... it's like this, Shaq is peanut butter. Kobe is jelly. Where's the bread, apart from the stale and moldy bread that's there?

And this series isn't over either... haven't you heard a series doesn't mean anything until the home team loses? Until the Dying-sty loses for the 4th time in a playoff series, it's not over. I just don't understand the concession speeches I saw from some Circle Jerkers though, WTF?

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Bad Guy
But let him continue to gloat. No matter what happens to the Lakers this season ( and I have gone on record saying they won't win this Spurs series) I will make sure to pull up these posts when the Queens pull their annual playoff choke job.
Sorry, dude. You can't on one hand say "I'll pull up these posts" but be conceding defeat for your team on the other hand. That's a no-lose situation and a very, very safe approach, kinda like Medevenko taking it to the hoop.

So, wait. You have immunity if/when the Lakers get knocked out because you dropped your 4 peat goals like a bad habit?

I don't think so.

And the difference between you and me is here I am, hiding from NOBODY. The Kings just played a combination of emabrassing basketball, combined moreso by the Mavericks playing absolute lights-out basketball (greatest offensive display possibly ever and we're halfway done) and I'M HERE.

So bring it (which will include Cal_ Injun finally making a "surprise" :rolleyes: return)

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 09:05 PM

Time to head back for the 2nd half. No matter what happens, to quote Arnold... "I'll be back"

Chiefs Pantalones 05-08-2003 10:15 PM

The Kings season may have went out the window. Webber is gonna have an MRI on the knee, he didn't look good. Jackson looks like he may miss some games due to an eye socket bruise or something. Oh well, the Kings don't know how to win anyway.

California Injun 05-08-2003 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AJKCFAN


So bring it (which will include Cal_ Injun finally making a "surprise" :rolleyes: return)

I find it interesting that nobody calls me out when I fail to post after the Lakers punked the T-Cubs (as predicted when they went down 2-1). Adam should be fully aware that I do not hide from anything as it relates the the Lake Show.

What is beautiful is the hatred eminating from the posters each time the Staples Crew approaches the brink of elimination. Last time I checked, all the Spurs did was hold Home Court.

The Spurs did the same thing to the Lakers that those Cuban Cigars are doing tonight to the Farmers. (uh, minus the NBA record 83 points they hung on the DEFENSELESS Kings?)

The Boot Accessorizors played completely out of their minds these first two games and will win the series if they keep jacking up 55% on their shots. But like the T-Cubs, they will start to feel the noose getting tighter as the clinching games approach. (Kings fans know all about CLINCHING games, right?):LOL:

I look for the Lakers to re-group and come away with a 6-7 point victory in Game #3. All of a sudden it is 1-2 and the MVPs start shivering.

The Lakers will then pull out Game #4 on Sunday to tie it up at 2 with a HUGE game in Texas for Game #5. This is where the series will be decided.

Given the Zenmasters ability to outcoach MVP Greg, don't be surprised when the short-handed Champs rip the Accessorizors hearts out.

California Injun 05-08-2003 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cody
The Kings season may have went out the window. Webber is gonna have an MRI on the knee, he didn't look good. Jackson looks like he may miss some games due to an eye socket bruise or something. Oh well, the Kings don't know how to win anyway.
C-Choke getting hurt again in the play-offs?

Where's Willis Reed when you need him?ROFL

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 10:24 PM

Boy, that was fun.... :rolleyes:

Dallas played a game that would have beaten just about anyone. I got to give them a lot of credit for not just the offensive fireworks they showed for 48 minutes, but the passion they had.

It was the classic "we're sick and tired of being dominated... let's do something about it"

And did something about it they did. Nowitski got them going, Van Exel just buried us and it got very contagious.

Nelson has to get credit here as the unsung star of the game. To try something new at this stage of the playoffs takes guts and going small made the game a frantic pace that the Mavs play best at. Moreover, Divac has killed the Mavs inside and the lineup made Divac very ineffective, especially in that a lot of the offense runs through him.

What Dallas did was historic. Whether this totally turned the series around in Dallas' favor we'll find out in Game 3. I know this. Sacramento's got a good home court too. As long as they don't lose at home, Dallas can enjoy their Game 2 performance but we'll move on.

Make no mistake though. Dallas made a big statement tonight and it really was "it's about time we really have a rivalry here". Because until tonight, Kings dominated. Now, the Mavs finally have confidence.

What hurts most is the injuries. Losing Webber or Bobby Jackson we can overcome. Losing both... really levels the playing field and that might just have happened. Still, the one thing the Kings always have had in their favor is their great depth. No Webber means we'll see a lot of Turkoglu. No Jackson means Bibby will need to play 40+ minutes and need to wake the f up... as he becomes the most important player on the Kings team.. again.

Not surprised Dallas won. Very surprised how easy it was but sometimes a team gets in the zone and the emotion produces is just overwhelming.

Kudos to them... Arco awaits.

California Injun 05-08-2003 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AJKCFAN
Boy, that was fun.... :rolleyes:
What hurts most is the injuries. Losing Webber or Bobby Jackson we can overcome. Losing both... really levels the playing field and that might just have happened. Still, the one thing the Kings always have had in their favor is their great depth. No Webber means we'll see a lot of Turkoglu. No Jackson means Bibby will need to play 40+ minutes and need to wake the f up... as he becomes the most important player on the Kings team.. again.

Hey Adam!

Did you check out the latest cover issue from Sports Illustrated?ROFL

Chiefs Pantalones 05-08-2003 10:33 PM

When the Kings finally do make it to the Finals and are in position to clinch the title, Webber will call timeout with no timeouts remaining. Very ironic.;)

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 10:35 PM

Re: Official Laker-Hater Championship thread. Whining encouraged!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by California Injun
The Staples Crew will EASILY dispatch those toothless T-Cubs before a BIG match-up against the Boot Accessorizors.
Yeah, sure Cal. You called for the punking over the Wolves but it arrived in Game 5 and not Game 1.

This is so predictable. You pulled a Clark Kent/Superman, my friend. Show up on the scene only when the ball bounces your way, but never when it doesn't.

Make no mistake. Had the Kings won tonight, you'd be waiting it out, but that's cool.

Realize this. I had to call out the Lakers fans last night. This thread was languishing somewhere in Page 8 and most of y'all were conveniently commenting on other topics. My guys got severely beaten tonight, caned, whipped, royally f'd up, much worse than you guys and I have the balls to get in here and face the music.

What's more. Some of you have QUIT on your team... your 3-peating team that ISN'T on the brink of elimination.

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by California Injun
Looks like there are two sets of fans getting worried about the JailBlazers forcing a Game #7.....

1. Those defenseless Cuban Cigars AND
2. Those soon to be grape Kool-aid drinking Farmers.

Wouldn't it be SWEET to see the Euros facing a HOT Portland team in the semi-finals instead of these pansy-assed Mavs that are on the brink of a Titanic CHOKE job?

All the greatest play-off seed planning in the world from the Sactown Euros could not have predicted this, eh? The Lakers had the sack to line up against the Boot Accessorizors by pounding the Warriors for the #5 seed.

Portland has more talent (when their heads are screwed on correctly) and more experience in big games. Cheeks and Pippen know what it takes to win a ring. Wells and Wallace are wired for the comeback and get this!!!

They can actually play DEFENSE!!!!

As for the soon to be 4 time Champs you ask?

I look to see them make a statement in Game #1 with a win. San Antonio continues to clank FTs in the clutch. Shaq-Diesel and Kobe are clicking so bring on the winner of the Blazer/Euros series.

Before tonight, Cal's latest remarks and predictions. As usual, like his other :bong: predictions (see the 74-8 prediction he once had ROFL ), they were wrong, so I'm sure the Spurs are quivering in their boots.

The Bad Guy 05-08-2003 10:46 PM

Quote:

Realize this. I had to call out the Lakers fans last night. This thread was languishing somewhere in Page 8 and most of y'all were conveniently commenting on other topics. My guys got severely beaten tonight, caned, whipped, royally f'd up, much worse than you guys and I have the balls to get in here and face the music.

What's more. Some of you have QUIT on your team... your 3-peating team that ISN'T on the brink of elimination.
Jesus Christ Adam, pat yourself on the back some more.
Big friggen deal, you made a post after you got slaughtered, congratulations. You want a fan of the year award because you can take lumps.

It's called reality and I'm sorry if your world doesn't allow reality to set in. Reality is that I've watched three Laker championship teams the last three years and this team doesn't even come close to last years team and couldn't shine the shoes of the teams in 2001 and 2000.

I said two months ago that I just felt the Lakers weren't good enough this year to repeat. Winning back to back championships is hard enough, winning four in a row is a damn miracle. When every one in the west gets better and you stay the same year in and year out, it eventually catches up with you.

I haven't quit on this team, I have become realistic about their chances this year. This is not the same Lakers team and I can recognize that. I think San Antonio is the better team this year. They obviously have the Lakers number by beating them six times in a row.

I will still watch the game tomorrow night and root for the Lakers. But I realize it will take a miracle for them to come back and win 4 of the next 5 against a team that has their number.

Again, I apologize for allowing reality to set in.

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 10:50 PM

Fair enough, Bad Guy. Personally, I'd keep believing until the ride ends (especially when you have Shaq and Kobe), but we have a difference in opinion... understood and respected.

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 11:00 PM

The SI Jinx Lives
 
Quote:

Originally posted by California Injun


Hey Adam!

Did you check out the latest cover issue from Sports Illustrated?ROFL

Yes I did... guess the next time we see #24 on the court, he'll be wearing a plastic mask (hopefully this Saturday for Game #3)

AJKCFAN 05-08-2003 11:02 PM

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Cal is talking about this...

Chiefs Pantalones 05-08-2003 11:25 PM

What's gonna hurt Sac is having back to back games on Saturday and Sunday. How did that get scheduled anyway?

California Injun 05-10-2003 07:13 AM

Speaking of rescuing this thread.......:rolleyes:

Page 1 when the Lakers get stomped, Page 7 when they win. Where's Adam when you need to be saved?

What a difference a few nights make between the fortunes of the Kings and Lakers, huh? As "predicted" yesterday in a prior thread (ask Adam for the exact quotation), the Lake Show came out on a mission and throttled the Boot Accessorizors.

Hell, even the #1 Laker Fan was ready to take out a "Few Good Men" (i.e. the refs) with his "You can't handle the truth" as they attempted to kick him off the court.

Speaking of "The Shining"....

Where did Bowen, Gianoble, and Parker go last night? All that strutting in Game #2 is out the window. Talk about deer in the headlights expressions.

As now we have the Kings debacle. (BTW, where is Adam's comments about CWebb being OFFICIALLY out for the year?) I guess the only lumps he is willing to take are those phony losses to the Greybeards and Cigars that mean nothing until the Conference Finals where they will meet a REAL team.

Break out the Grape Kool-Aid farmers. Your Title hopes just went crashing to the floor with that phantom ACL. Oh that's right, the Kings have so much "depth" they will overcome losing their ONLY inside presence.

This injury don't mean "Jack" (not Nicholson) against the defenseless Cuban Cigars. But how are you going to contain Big Daddy or the Twin Towers in the Finals?

Scott Pollard? Keon Clark? The Bearded Fish?

:LOL:

But enough about those pretending pseudo Champs in Cowtown. The NBA Championship is being played this week and I look for the soon to be 4-time Champs to even the series going back to Texas.

Game #5 will be H-U-G-E

It's all good in Lakerland......:toast:

California Injun 05-10-2003 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by AJKCFAN


Before tonight, Cal's latest remarks and predictions. As usual, like his other :bong: predictions (see the 74-8 prediction he once had ROFL ), they were wrong, so I'm sure the Spurs are quivering in their boots.

(quiver, quiver, quiver......)

When you predict the the Lakers will win the Chmapionship (this is now the 4th straight year BTW), I wound venture a guess that those proverbial tree limbs keep getting weaker each time.

At least I put my neck out there (unlike our infamous broom salesmen in Wolfville).:rolleyes:

Feel free to pull up a few predictions that actually happened to provide some balanced perspective.

Unless you are still obsessesd with the "score to settle" mantra these Kool-Aid drinkers keep chanting.:p

DJay23 05-10-2003 07:28 AM

Wow, I've been watching some of the NBA playoffs, initially because there was nothing else on, but I discovered they're a great sleep aid.

I've been getting lots of sleep lately.


BOOOOOOOORRRRIIIIIINNNNGGG

California Injun 05-10-2003 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DJay23
Wow, I've been watching some of the NBA playoffs, initially because there was nothing else on, but I discovered they're a great sleep aid.

I've been getting lots of sleep lately.


BOOOOOOOORRRRIIIIIINNNNGGG

What?

No Monster Truck Rally's on in May?

AJKCFAN 05-10-2003 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by California Injun
As now we have the Kings debacle. (BTW, where is Adam's comments about CWebb being OFFICIALLY out for the year?)
Cal_Injun, I've started to think you're related to Bill Walton.

7:11 your time last night, just as the story broke, check out who broke the news on the Planet about Webber's season ending injury.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...threadid=59948

So there goes my hiding in the face of bad news. I'm eager to know where you were after Games 1 and 2 of the Spurs series....

As for losing Webber, why lie? It f'n kills us that he's gone. Webber was having his best postseason yet, stepping up his game in all aspects of the game.. even his FT shooting wasn't as nightmarish as expected. Kings just lost their best player (though Peja has had an awesome postseason too) and you're right, Cal. He's the man for the Kings inside. No Webber means the Kings now become even more of a jumpshooting team in the playoffs and that's not what wins championships.

Although...

For the Mavs series, the Kings must still remain committed to ripping apart the Mavs interior D, or lack thereof. They went away from it in Game 2 after building a 20-10 lead and very foolishly allowed to be caught in a macho streetball game which plays right into the Mavs hands. Found out in a big way playing that way is poison for any team playing the Mavs.

They still will run the offense through Divac, who has notoriously stepped up his game when Webber has been out with injuries (which unfortuantely has been quite often lately). However, he's no spring chicken and sooner or later, he won't be able to get it done when you expect to see him get it done.

They have Pollard, Clark for starters. I'd start Clark because he brings athletic ability and quickness which resemble Webber. Playing Divac and Pollard together against Dallas must mean one thing... Eastern Conference style halfcourt, take the air out of the ball kind of basketball... for if it's high-paced, the Kings become too slow.

The wild card is Hedo. As his minutes rise, I really expect him not to let the Kings down... this injury is a statement now for Hedo to show what a mistake it has been to have him off the rotation. He should be very fiery every game... and should the Kings advance (I still believe this is a winnable series with the Kings having homecourt now), he's going to be a difference maker.

In the future, we needed Webber to help answer the dominance Shaq presents. In the Spurs case, to help answer the greatness Duncan presents. In either case, the Kings have definitely gone from potential favorites to clear underdogs.

For the Kings, in the past when Webber has been hurt, the entire team does play better. It's a mystery as to why and I am NOT advocating the Kings are better without Webber, for they definitely are not. But the Kings respond well to adversity caused by injuries. If you had one 12 man team, comprised of the best players in the world, one can make the case that Peja makes the team (not as a starter, but on the roster), Bibby was on this team last year but he's not now, for he has been inconsistent in these playoffs... absolutely MUST change starting tonight. These two can be our bread and butter on offense. As far as the rest, I am not expecting Bobby Jackson to be Mr. 6th Man right away from a broken cheekbone... I'm expecting intensity, but not the fearless game he brings. Jim Jackson has to step up, for it's very apparent Christie is as bad an offensive liability as any team has in the playoffs, he's becoming sort of a backcourt version of Rodman (all defense, no offense) and that's bad. We'll never see him, but I sure would love to see a bit of Gerald Wallace... the kid can play.

We'll find out soon enough how much the Kings have left in them....

AJKCFAN 05-10-2003 11:07 PM

Thought Game 3's winner would likely win this series... it certainly appears that Dallas is in the driver's seat now.

Every year, as the Kings championship dreams go up in smoke, there always is at least one game that is a "punch to the balls" type of loss.

In 1999, vs the Jazz, Games 4 (Stockton's shot with 0.8 seconds) and 5 (losing an OT heartbreaker).

Not really much in 2000 and 2001, it went down kinda painless.

But in 2002, vs the Lakers, Games 4 and 7.

This year, if the Mavs win the series (and the series has drastically swung in favor of the Mavs to win), Game 2 (because of the Webber injury much moreso than the 83 the Mavs dropped on us in the 1st half) and Game 3 (blowing yet another game at home) are the games which will sicken me.

Between the Kings and the Chiefs playoff losses in 1997, 1995, and 1990, there's been a lot of torment...

The Bad Guy 05-10-2003 11:16 PM

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Between the Kings and the Chiefs playoff losses in 1997, 1995, and 1990, there's been a lot of torment...
I'm amazed at the fact that you haven't jumped off a bridge by now.

Believe it or not, I was a much bigger fan of the Lakers when they weren't winning championships. The 1998 team will probably go down as my favorite team because of the true talent that team had. Shaq, Elden Campbell, Jones, Kobe, Van Exel, Fox, Fisher, it was just truly an incredible team that couldn't win because of coaching. Van Exel was by far my favorite Laker.

With the Chiefs sucking ass since 1997, if LA didn't win something I would of taken the bridge.

Stick in there man. It's only 2-1.

California Injun 05-11-2003 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by AJKCFAN


Every year, as the Kings championship dreams go up in smoke, there always is at least one game that is a "punch to the balls" type of loss.

Between the Kings and the Chiefs playoff losses in 1997, 1995, and 1990, there's been a lot of torment...

Great game and a tough loss, Adam.

Despite my intense dislike for the Kings, I still see them beating the Cuban Cigars as they are too streaky and inconsistent. Freaking Walt Williams going off was akin to Bruce Bowen's 27 points in Game #2 against the Lakers. It won't happen again the rest of the series.

So you pick your poison at this point. Is it better to win this series and get beaten in the Finals (no C-Webb = no way against the Spurs/Lakers), OR....

Lose to the Cigars and watch them get killed in the Finals?

The Lake Show will even the series this afternoon before the BIG GAME in Tejas on Tuesday night. The NBA Champion will be crowned in Game #5 (unless the Spurs pull a Sacktown Meltdown a lose in 7).

Pay close to attention to the bricks being tossed up by the Parkers, Gianobles, Jacksons, and Bowens as the series gets tighter. Far too easy to jack up shots in games that have no meaning.

Let's see who has the nads when the Title in is the balance.

BIG_DADDY 05-12-2003 10:20 AM

AJKCFAN wrote:
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My guys got severely beaten tonight, caned, whipped, royally f'd up, much worse than you guys and I have the balls to get in here and face the music.

What's more. Some of you have QUIT on your team... your 3-peating team that ISN'T on the brink of elimination.
You are sooooooooooo full of chit it's ridiculous. Show me one person that conceded. MAny said they didn't like their chances after the way they played the first two games but nobody ever conceded to the best of my recollection. Furthermore several Laker fans have been right with you throughout this including me. I am only online at work (for 2 more weeks) so I can't respond immediatly after the weekend games but if it makes you feel like a bigger man because you can then all the more power to ya.

BIG_DADDY 05-12-2003 10:21 AM

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Oh yea, just a reminder. The LAkers own the Queens.

The Bad Guy 05-12-2003 10:27 AM

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You are sooooooooooo full of chit it's ridiculous. Show me one person that conceded. MAny said they didn't like their chances after the way they played the first two games but nobody ever conceded to the best of my recollection. Furthermore several Laker fans have been right with you throughout this including me. I am only online at work (for 2 more weeks) so I can't respond immediatly after the weekend games but if it makes you feel like a bigger man because you can then all the more power to ya.
He is refering to me Big Daddy.
I said that I didn't think LA could beat San Antonio this year. I also said that I didn't think we would four-peat.

I felt with a team beating the Lakers six straight times that LA didn't stand a chance.

Maybe I was wrong after watching this weekend, maybe I wasn't. Who knows. I'm not saying another word on this topic unitl the offseason because when I keep my mouth shut good things happen.

BIG_DADDY 05-12-2003 10:36 AM

Bad Guy,

That last two games were huge. Coming back from 16 down with no Phil Jackson or Fox against a very good Spurs team was impressive indeed. I can't believe they got George up and going so fast. If they pull out their fourth straight against these teams now nobody can talk trash about the Lake show but I am sure they will anyway.

ROYC75 05-12-2003 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by BIG_DADDY
Oh yea, just a reminder. The LAkers own the Queens.

That pic is a dagger........:grr:


May the Kings return the faver !:toast:

California Injun 05-12-2003 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by California Injun


I find it interesting that nobody calls me out when I fail to post after the Lakers punked the T-Cubs (as predicted when they went down 2-1). Adam should be fully aware that I do not hide from anything as it relates the the Lake Show.

The Boot Accessorizors played completely out of their minds these first two games and will win the series if they keep jacking up 55% on their shots. But like the T-Cubs, they will start to feel the noose getting tighter as the clinching games approach. (Kings fans know all about CLINCHING games, right?):LOL:

I look for the Lakers to re-group and come away with a 6-7 point victory in Game #3. All of a sudden it is 1-2 and the MVPs start shivering.

The Lakers will then pull out Game #4 on Sunday to tie it up at 2 with a HUGE game in Texas for Game #5. This is where the series will be decided.

Given the Zenmasters ability to outcoach MVP Greg, don't be surprised when the short-handed Champs rip the Accessorizors hearts out.

Just your friendly Lakers Nostradamus pulling up some prophecies when the Champs were down 0-2....ROFL

California Injun 05-12-2003 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by California Injun


The Lake Show will even the series this afternoon before the BIG GAME in Tejas on Tuesday night. The NBA Champion will be crowned in Game #5 (unless the Spurs pull a Sacktown Meltdown a lose in 7).

Pay close to attention to the bricks being tossed up by the Parkers, Gianobles, Jacksons, and Bowens as the series gets tighter. Far too easy to jack up shots in games that have no meaning.

Let's see who has the nads when the Title in is the balance.

I overlooked inbounds passes with the game in the balance.

My bad........:D

BIG_DADDY 05-13-2003 11:52 AM

Big game tonight, any thoughts?

shakesthecat 05-13-2003 12:02 PM

IF the Lakers can win tonight, (and that's a big IF) then you can start engraving the trophy.

San Antonio is learning what Portland, Minn, and Sactown, have all learned before them.

When you have a chance to kill the Lakers, you'd better make sure they're dead.

I expect tonight to be fargin' war.

BIG_DADDY 05-13-2003 12:56 PM

Shakes,

I totally agree with your assessment. The game tonight should be the best of the playoffs. Hope the Lakers bring their A game.

PunkinDrublic 05-13-2003 07:58 PM

Queens fans your team is in trouble. You ran into a tired Mavs team Sunday night. Tonight the Mavs once again showed how vulnerable the queens are without Webber.

AJKCFAN 05-13-2003 08:06 PM

Not Giving Up, But It Sure Doesn't Look Good
 
Kings needed to maintain the good things they built off Game 4.. and for a half they did.

Then they decided to bookend the most emabarrasing 1st half ever on defense (Game 2) with the most embarassing 2nd half ever on offense (tonight).

I am giving the Mavs credit... they HAVE BEEN better than the Kings... and more alarmingly, hungrier than the Kings.

Still, what could be worse, giving up 83 points in a half or scoring 32 points in a must-win 2nd half against an inept defnesive team like Dallas?

Nick Van Exel is the MVP of the series... as if anyone didn't know that. Looking at the Top 5 players of the series, at least 3 and probably 4 of them are on Dallas

1. Van Exel
2. Dirk
3. Nash
4. Peja
5. Finley

It wouldn't surprise me to see the series end in Arco, although I'll go with the school of thought that the Kings will regroup at home and win, setting up Game 7.

I don't see much reason to hope the Kings will win in Dallas, but until it's over, I got to have faith, even if it's blind.

California Injun 05-13-2003 09:18 PM

Down by 21 midway through the 3rd quarter so might as well post a bit early tonight.......

Don't tell the Lakers but there was a Game #5 this evening.:banghead:

Now we're on the 17% end of teams that can overcome a 2-3 deficit after losing a Game 5. That's the bad news.

The good news? We just pulled that rabbit out of a hat last year against the Kings.

My next prediction on this series? (You'll notice I made none for this game tonight)

Game #7 in San Antonio with the game coming down to the final 4 minutes.

Lakers just need to keep it close as the Boot Accessorizors will melt under the pressure. No pressure when you're up by 23 fuggin points tonight.:huh:

B2chiefsfan 05-13-2003 09:21 PM

Kobe got his shorts yanked down to his ankles on that last defensive play.


ROFL ROFL ROFL

California Injun 05-13-2003 09:26 PM

Good thing they don't award 2 wins with this ass-whipping tonight. But I'll hand it to the Lakers, when they tank a game, they roll out the latest hardware in the Panzar Division.

Thank goodness for sattelite television and the internet on nights like these...:spank:

KcMizzou 05-13-2003 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by shakesthecat


I expect tonight to be fargin' war.

much like the recent war in Iraq.

California Injun 05-13-2003 09:34 PM

Hmmm..... Kobe hits a 3 at the buzzer?

Lakers down by 16 going into the 4th.

Scratch it to single digits and them Boot Accessorizors might start dry heaving.

:eek:

|Zach| 05-13-2003 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by California Injun
Hmmm..... Kobe hits a 3 at the buzzer?

Lakers down by 16 going into the 4th.

Scratch it to single digits and them Boot Accessorizors might start dry heaving.

:eek:

The Lake Show's dominance is impresive :p :D

California Injun 05-13-2003 09:49 PM

10 point lead with 5:48 to go?:eek:

Boot Accessorizors turning the ball over like its a Chinese Fire Drill.

A monu-MENTAL tank job in the balance?:p

Next update shortly after it gets down to 6-7 points.....:toast:

California Injun 05-13-2003 09:55 PM

90-86 with 3:30 to go?

Say it isn't so!!!!!!!

Boot Accessorizors feeling the pressure AGAIN!!!!

Genaro Pargot pulls up for a clutch 2. He's a rookie with ice in his veins.

Slava going 5 for 6?

What the hell is going on here?:toast:

KcMizzou 05-13-2003 09:58 PM

good lord.. dont those fuggers ever quit?


keep us posted, wouldja Cal?

The Bad Guy 05-13-2003 10:05 PM

That F&cking bullshit technical foul on Shaq is going to be the difference in this game...

California Injun 05-13-2003 10:06 PM

95-94 with 19.7 to go............

Who is gonna have the nads to take over this game?

My money is on #8 or #34?

Is there another "Horry for 3...........YES?"

the Talking Can 05-13-2003 10:09 PM

Laker ball down by 2...they refuse to lose

B2chiefsfan 05-13-2003 10:11 PM

Gopher in that hole!!!!!!ROFL ROFL ROFL

B2chiefsfan 05-13-2003 10:11 PM

No glory this time!!!!!!:p

Mr. Kotter 05-13-2003 10:12 PM

HORRY, from THREE.....:eek:

It's NOOOOO good; Spurs WIN!!! ;)

:D

the Talking Can 05-13-2003 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by the Talking Can
Laker ball down by 2...they refuse to lose

oops, I mean they refused but lost any way...

B2chiefsfan 05-13-2003 10:14 PM

One more baby.

:)

AJKCFAN 05-13-2003 10:17 PM

They May Have Lost The Game But....
 
The Lakers won the series tonight.... the Spurs proved tonight they won't be able to finish the Lakers off.

The Lakers are a lock to beat the Spurs ass at Staples in Game 6.

The Spurs will not be able to survive Game 7.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-13-2003 10:20 PM

Good game.

The Lakers need more depth, though. I expect them to win this series in 7, but I don't know how they'll do against the Kings or the Mavs who are deep.

My observations from this game...

1. Phil Jackson shouldn't of held Shaq out of the game so long in the 4th, and he took him out in the 2nd too when the Spurs were making a run...if they had average roll players, then it would probably be fine, but they are terrible.

2. The roll players are terrible. I don't care if they win a 4th straight title this year or not, they need to upgrade. Teams are about to pass them up.

The Bad Guy 05-13-2003 10:21 PM

Adam,

Who would of thought that both the Lakers and Kings would both be facing an elimination game in the semifinals.

It sure wasn't me.

Good luck in game 6. I need the number for Phil Jackson's doctor because I need an angioplasty after that game.

California Injun 05-13-2003 10:32 PM

I don't know what is worse..... well yes I do.

Getting you asses kicked the entire game is a helluva lot easier on the peptic ulcer than this gut-wretcher.

That damn ball was in the hole, which made this loss a killer emotionally.

I'm wondering why Kobe didn't draw that foul when Bowen jumped on the pump fake. It would have been 3 FTs for a possible win.

I'll STILL take a wide open Horry with the game on the line though.

Great night to be a proud Laker fan!!!!!!:toast:

The Bad Guy 05-13-2003 10:33 PM

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I'm wondering why Kobe didn't draw that foul when Bowen jumped on the pump fake. It would have been 3 FTs for a possible win.
If the refs don't blow the whistle on the last blatant foul by Bowen on a pump fake then there's no way they blow it with 10 seconds left.

California Injun 05-13-2003 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Cody
Good game.

The Lakers need more depth, though. I expect them to win this series in 7, but I don't know how they'll do against the Kings or the Mavs who are deep.

The only depth the Kings/Mavs have over the Lakers is "CHIT",
as in deep fecal matter.

You still need clutch players to hit big shots, not "depth" from no-names.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-13-2003 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by California Injun


The only depth the Kings/Mavs have over the Lakers is "CHIT",
as in deep fecal matter.

You still need clutch players to hit big shots, not "depth" from no-names.

Whatever you want to call it.

How's this...

The Lakers need more clutch players to hit big shots because teams are and will catch up to them if they don't improve personnel. Nothing good comes from standing pat.

The Lakers roll players are terrible.

AJKCFAN 05-13-2003 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by The Bad Guy
Adam,

Who would of thought that both the Lakers and Kings would both be facing an elimination game in the semifinals.

It sure wasn't me.

Good luck in game 6. I need the number for Phil Jackson's doctor because I need an angioplasty after that game.

Barkley and Magic couldn't say it any better in the post-game just now...

Barkley: "Those that think the Kings were just as good without Webber are seeing how stupid they are. Who cares how they are in the regular season without him? You're playing the Clippers and Denver. This is where the Marines come to play."

Magic: "Not only that, but no Webber means Bibby can't go off like he did last year in every series. Kings best play is the pick and roll and nobody runs it better for the Kings than Webber. Now without him, Bibby is being swarmed and can't get his shot."

The Kings were fatally wounded when Webber went down in Game 2. The breathing stops either in Arco Thursday night, in Dallas Saturday, or in the next round. :(

If it is this series, let it be in Dallas, where they can go out like warriors... frankly, I'm sick and tired of leaving a season going into the Arco tunnel...


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