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Rasputin 06-25-2013 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9773863)
So, you're denying that you actively advocate Smith at 1.1?


I would have been ecstatic if we had drafted Geno Smith 1.1 & I'd be thrilled about it today.


I'm not denying I wanted Geno Smith with our first pick of the draft.


If it worked out that we got Geno Smith with our second round pick and not gave it up to Alex Smith I'd be also ecstatic and pleased that they took a chance on a quarterback with an early pick.

DaneMcCloud 06-25-2013 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9773866)
I would have been ecstatic if we had drafted Geno Smith 1.1 & I'd be thrilled about it today.


I'm not denying I wanted Geno Smith with our first pick of the draft.


If it worked out that we got Geno Smith with our second round pick and not gave it up to Alex Smith I'd be also ecstatic and pleased that they took a chance on a quarterback with an early pick.

Then, once again, YOU WERE WRONG.

The NFL disagreed with your "evaluation".

Just stop.

Rasputin 06-25-2013 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9773867)
Then, once again, YOU WERE WRONG.

The NFL disagreed with your "evaluation".



We are going round and round with this lol. I don't care if the NFL disagrees with me or even if the majority of Chiefs Planet disagrees with me. It would have been kick ass to draft a quarterback with our first or second round pick of the draft. A top prospect would have been great. I just happen to think Geno Smith was the best out of this bunch and no this wasn't a great class of quarterbacks. They are still prospects with upside greater than Alex Smith.

Rasputin 06-25-2013 03:00 AM

Hell I would have been happy to pick E.J. Manuel with our 1.1 pick if the Bills had enough convection to pick him at 8 then maybe he would have been worth our first. We couldn't get any trade offers to trade back.

Rasputin 06-25-2013 03:08 AM

I think what hurt Geno Smith stock the most is that he didn't show up to the senior bowl and NFL coaches wanted to see him there. There wasn't a clean cut number one quarterback and him not being there really made him drop. I think that is why the Chiefs went ahead and took Alex Smith at the time they did making it known to the public before the combine was over.

Geno Smith hasn't done himself any favors in that regards. I think he has taken bad advise but he is still a workable guy and I think he is eager to learn. We will see if he has what it takes or not. I very well could be wrong about him and not afraid if I am wrong to admit it. He just hasn't had the opportunity to prove himself yet for a full season or the next 5 seasons to see if he got any better or not. Give him time like all the draft prospects ge the time to prove themselves or not.


Eli Manning sure wasn't lighting fires when he got his start in the league.

Rasputin 06-25-2013 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9773867)
Then, once again, YOU WERE WRONG.

The NFL disagreed with your "evaluation".

Just stop.



Just how smart are these NFL scouts and GMs? Tim Tebow, Blain Gabbert, Brady Quinn & yet they all pass up a Tom Brady. The draft is full of pros and cons or boom or bust type players and you just don't know until they prove what they really are worth when they play on the grid iron. Teams are wrong all the ****ing time or they wouldn't be picking 1.1 & don't say this GM Dorsey and Andy Reid are any smarter or Andy Reid wouldn't have been fired and Dorsey is still a question mark at GM. He has to learn the job for the Chiefs.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-25-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9773849)
Dumb

How the **** is that dumb, you asshat? It's the truth. Alex Smith isn't going to do a GODDAMN THING in terms of getting this franchise to a Super Bowl.
I swear, you live in a ****ing fantasy world where Alex Smith is a legit first-rounder and Reid is still a top coach in this league. It's ****ing embarrasing, Dane.

Please....STOP.

Ah, ah, ah......STOP.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-25-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9772577)
Alex Smith would be closer to Rich Gannon/Trent Green than anything Drew Brees.

Drew Brees can single handed win games by himself. Alex Smith will never, ever be able to do that.

What Alex Smith can do is hopefully put up good efficient stats, like Green and Gannon did late into their careers.

Only different is Alex Smith is a #1 overall pick who you can argue is a draft bust at this point in his career until he proves otherwise.

To be fair. Brees couldn't do that either before he hit New Orleans.

mcaj22 06-25-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9774193)
To be fair. Brees couldn't do that either before he hit New Orleans.

Do what

Pasta Little Brioni 06-25-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9774205)
Do what

Win games "by himself"

mcaj22 06-25-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9774207)
Win games "by himself"

thats because he was never given the green light with his arm playing under Martyball with Cam Cameron as his OC

and he still was able to throw for 3000 yards and 20+ touchdowns


same with Flacco, Cam Cameron gets fired and Joe Flacco carries that team with his arm in the playoffs


Alex Smith doesnt have an arm like Brees or Flacco never has and never will

keg in kc 06-25-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9773867)
Then, once again, YOU WERE WRONG.

The NFL disagreed with your "evaluation".

Just stop.

There's a difference between the NFL disagreeing with your evaluation and being wrong.

Drew Brees is a great example. I didn't think he was a first round pick. The NFL agreed with my evaluation. As it turns out all these years later, we were both wrong.

DaneMcCloud 06-25-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9774134)
How the **** is that dumb, you asshat? It's the truth. Alex Smith isn't going to do a GODDAMN THING in terms of getting this franchise to a Super Bowl.
I swear, you live in a ****ing fantasy world where Alex Smith is a legit first-rounder and Reid is still a top coach in this league. It's ****ing embarrasing, Dane.

Please....STOP.

Ah, ah, ah......STOP.


LMAO

You're a real genius. Draft a guy a 1.1 that's rated by everyone else in the league as no better than a second rounder.

Draft a guy at 1.1 that acts like a cry baby at the draft, them fires his agent.

Draft a guy a 1.1 just because he's a QB.

:facepalm:

Dumb.

Ace Gunner 06-25-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9773866)
I would have been ecstatic if we had drafted Geno Smith 1.1 & I'd be thrilled about it today.


I'm not denying I wanted Geno Smith with our first pick of the draft.


If it worked out that we got Geno Smith with our second round pick and not gave it up to Alex Smith I'd be also ecstatic and pleased that they took a chance on a quarterback with an early pick.

weren't you one of the "tyler bray is going in the first" advocators ?

A lot of NFL pundits think the Jets made a poor choice taking GS that early. I was one of the guys on this board calling for the team to go with BA and take GS 1.1, BUT I also acknowledged this was going to be a big reach because I felt GS was no better than a 2nd round QB talent and since the Chiefs had no 2nd, I'd be okay with getting him 1.1... The lacking talent at the top of this draft was another reason I was for it.

I'd still like to see Reid paired with GS here, it can still happen -- I have little faith he will stick in jetsville. the fans/media are going to roast him and the team will either trade or cut sometime after a season or two.

DaneMcCloud 06-25-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9774240)
There's a difference between the NFL disagreeing with your evaluation and being wrong.

Drew Brees is a great example. I didn't think he was a first round pick. The NFL agreed with my evaluation. As it turns out all these years later, we were both wrong.

Geno Smith isn't Drew Brees.

Brees fell because of his height and that he came from the spread (and if you'll recall, I was a very vocal proponent of Brees).

Smith had no such concerns. His questions stemmed from his lack of maturity and decision making on the field. To date, he hasn't done anything to squelch those concerns.


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