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Mr_Tomahawk 07-20-2013 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9824102)
@evansilva: Geno Smith was "uneven" at OTAs, "didn't wow anyone," struggled with "basic skills" like snap count&huddle presence: http://t.co/REuKEpwR1g
He is a cant miss hall of famer!

O.city 07-20-2013 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9824140)
No one is discounting them.

But there is conclusive data that suggests that the Chiefs haven't been able to identify long term, contributing players for more than 20 decades in the second round.

I think it's safe to say that Alex Smith is better than Mike Elkins.
If you put it that way, it's pretty safe to say we don't knwo what the hell we are doing in trading for QB's either. :evil:

splatbass 07-20-2013 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9823525)
If 8-8 gets this guy the fat payday, it's time to just close up shop.

Which brings me to:



Change for the sake of change doesn't mean much to me in regards to the Chiefs. The problem, as I see it, is this; I don't see Clark Hunt as a "football guy". Not at all. I see a man who is more concerned with his father's legacy than a man who eats, sleeps, lives, and breathes the game of football. I see Hunt as a guy who hires guys like Dorsey and Reid, and tells them, "well if there's a problem, YOU figure it out; that's what I'm paying you for". I'm not saying the man isn't "hands-on", but if I owned a team, I guarantee you I would know more about upcoming coordinators, managers, and coaches than what I could glean from my owner-buddies at the once-a-year round table meeting.
Your business is either your passion or it isn't. And in the case of KC; it shows.
So you want a hands on owner like Al Davis, Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones? Brilliant!

O.city 07-20-2013 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9824128)
That is NOT what I said at all, and you know it. Dishonesty doesn't look good on you.
It's ok, football discussion doesn't look good on you either.

DeezNutz 07-20-2013 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9824140)
No one is discounting them.

But there is conclusive data that suggests that the Chiefs haven't been able to identify long term, contributing players for more than 20 decades in the second round.

I think it's safe to say that Alex Smith is better than Mike Elkins.
There isn't conclusive evidence that the KC Chiefs franchise cannot identify legit talent in the draft. There is, however, conclusive evidence that dumb ****s like Pioli and Grandpa cannot.

The Chiefs aren't jinxed; they simply repeat the same stupidity, and that's the result of, unbelievably, purposeful decisions.

tredadda 07-20-2013 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9824143)
He is a cant miss hall of famer!
Too bad we didn't pin all of our hopes on him. We would be SB bound with this superstar!

O.city 07-20-2013 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9824143)
He is a cant miss hall of famer!
Coming from the guy with an undrafted Free agent, stating he is the future of the franchise as his sig, well, I dunno what to think. :thumb::p

DaneMcCloud 07-20-2013 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9824144)
If you put it that way, it's pretty safe to say we don't knwo what the hell we are doing in trading for QB's either. :evil:
Matt Cassel was an abortion even before the trade was consumated.

Alex Smith has had two seasons in which he's performed very well and several seasons earlier in his career in which he didn't perform well.

Any transaction of this type comes with risk.

splatbass 07-20-2013 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9824139)
I know it isnt' what you said. I was paraphrasing what you were thinking.
No, you weren't. You were ASSUMING the WRONG thing. Because you don't know shit.

splatbass 07-20-2013 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9824153)
It's ok, football discussion doesn't look good on you either.
POS.

DeezNutz 07-20-2013 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9824172)
No, you weren't. You were ASSUMING the WRONG thing. Because you don't know shit.
How would you define a successful season for the Chiefs in terms of overall record?

DaneMcCloud 07-20-2013 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9824158)
There isn't conclusive evidence that the KC Chiefs franchise cannot identify legit talent in the draft. There is, however, conclusive evidence that dumb ****s like Pioli and Grandpa cannot.
Carl Peterson rarely had success in the second round. Tim Grunhard was a nice 10 year starter and Reggie Tongue was decent. But outside of those guys and Brandon Flowers (who was a Herm/Kuharich selection), the cupboard was fairly bare.

Look around the NFL and you'll find similar stories.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9824158)
The Chiefs aren't jinxed; they simply repeat the same stupidity, and that's the result of, unbelievably, purposeful decisions.
I would like for you to tell me which QB should have been named starter for the 2013 season.

What should Hunt, Reid and Dorsey done?

O.city 07-20-2013 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9824169)
Matt Cassel was an abortion even before the trade was consumated.

Alex Smith has had two seasons in which he's performed very well and several seasons earlier in his career in which he didn't perform well.

Any transaction of this type comes with risk.
I'm just curious to see how he does in a pass first offense.

DeezNutz 07-20-2013 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9824178)
I would like for you to tell me which QB should have been named starter for the 2013 season.

What should Hunt, Reid and Dorsey done?
I've already answered this. I would have given up a 4th rounder, no higher, for Smith. If this wouldn't have closed the deal--and no big deal if not---I would have acquired Flynn or Stanton.

None of these players are legit options. They're all stopgaps, so you have to try to get "value." Two second-round picks are not indicative of value; they're indicative of no Vaseline.

O.city 07-20-2013 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9824172)
No, you weren't. You were ASSUMING the WRONG thing. Because you don't know shit.
No, I was making fun of you, mainly, for being a guy that comes to a football message board and rarely, if ever, talks football.

Instead, just bitches.

But to each his own I guess.


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