Color me *shocked*


/sarcasm

If the SOLE reason he struggled last year was because he was playing out of position, what does that say about Andy Reid as a coach?

There's no way to pretty this up and make it not be a steaming pile of shit.

Either the GM didn't scout the right guy, the coach put him in a position to fail, or the player just isn't that good...

I'm not going to forget it.

It was the only 1.1 we've EVER had. That we wasted it on Eric Fisher is not something that should ever be forgotten.

I hate the pick too. He's never going to live up to the pick.

But he's on the team now. We have to start evaluating him as a player, not as the 1.1. As a player he improved quite a bit and has a ton of upside. He'll never live up to the 1.1, but there's lots of reasons to think he will continue to improve a lot as a starter.

It's also possible Andy Reid thought he needed a year befoer putting him on the blind side, especially given the shortened offseason practice schedule. He wasn't the only coach to move a LT to RT. Either that or blame Dorsey for botching the Albert trade.

Now you're talking about the future. That's fine.

Before you were talking about the PAST. And lining up 400 ****ing reasons why the guy sucked last year. I don't want to hear the excuses. He was the 1st overall pick. The excuses don't jive.

So put him on the right side and watch him fail? People talk all the time about sitting QBs so as to not "damage their psyche" but it's ok to do it with Fisher?

The double standards here are ridiculous.

this, well said

If you've given up on Fisher already, who was drafted on potential to develop, #1 overall in a shit stain of a prospect draft class, then you've already given up on Dorsey and Reid and the evaluations they've made. If you are, fine, but I'm not there yet.

If they were dead set on taking Fisher at 1, thee was no excuse not to get SOMETHING for Brandon Albert.

Once they knew they couldn't trade Albert, there was NO EXCUSE to not trade down...or take another player at 1.

I don't think anyone has "given up" on Fisher...but I CAN say that guys taken first overall NEED to flash the ability to play at a high level even as rookies.

I'm not sure i saw that out of Fisher.

If you truly believe that we should put QBs out there to fail early (I do), then we shouldn't be throwing bust labels at guys like Dontari Poe and Eric Fisher who are learning their way on the field in the first season. For as much as this fan base, both the homers and the critics, talk about taking chances we are way too risk averse.

Nobody ever called Poe a bust.

The guy flashed top end ability pretty quickly.

I didn't and never will understand why people think the true grade on a rookie, regardless of what position or where taken in the draft, is dependant on how they play in their rookie season. That's the kind of conversation that leads to safe picks, which is what Pioli was the king of.

I am not excusing Fisher's bad play last year. I am pointing out reasons why there's a good chance it's not representative of his actual skill set.And again, they aren't small reasons at all.

Pretty sure they could have traded Albert if they wanted to.

I believe the rumors right after the Chiefs picked Fisher was that the Dolphins were like the only team in talks and that they were offering a 3rd, but Dorsey was holding out for a 2nd.

But at least we'll get a 3rd round comp pick next year!

How they handled the Albert/first pick scenario was terrible wasting of resources.

It's like having 2-3 bananas that are ripe and going out and buying more bananas and eating them first and letting the older ones go bad and end up throwing them away when you are on a very limited income.