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Marcellus 06-15-2014 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10691835)
I'd like to hear why people think he has another year, but it was ok to cut Flowers now.
Because pass rushers are harder to find than CB's.

-King- 06-15-2014 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10692269)
He is put in a position that he hasn't been in prior to last year, but he's been one of the most phyical corners in the league during his career.
Oh yeah I agree. I've always said he's extremely interested physical. That's my point. Him playing in a system that puts him in those positions even more is probably not a great thing for him at this point in his career.
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Marcellus 06-15-2014 08:46 AM
I will add that cutting Flowers only makes sense if we use the money for Houston etc.....

OnTheWarpath15 06-15-2014 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10692276)
Because pass rushers are harder to find than CB's.
Shouldn't be an issue, as we apparently just drafted the next Derrick Thomas.

OnTheWarpath15 06-15-2014 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10692279)
I will add that cutting Flowers only makes sense if we use the money for Houston etc.....
This is my issue with it.

If they cut him and don't bother putting the money towards Houston THIS YEAR, they could have waited.

And to be clear, I'm not necessarily upset with the move. I figured he was gone next year. Hali as well. Just not sure why if you're cutting guys who are getting older and losing a step, why Hali is some sacred cow and Flowers is expendable.

Or better yet, if you're just looking to save some money, why Flowers has to go NOW, while guys like Daniel, DeVito, Fasano and Colquitt are making $4M each.

Not a single one of those guys would be missed, and all are ridiculously overpaid.

bobhill 06-15-2014 09:24 AM
Colquitt would. Unless your boy Sucupp is punting for you?

ThaVirus 06-15-2014 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10692345)
If they cut him and don't bother putting the money towards Houston THIS YEAR, they could have waited.

This is my issue. If we don't extend Houston or Smith with these savings this season, we just cut a good CB for absolutely no reason.

WhiteWhale 06-15-2014 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10692264)
He isn't being asked to be more physical? He has to play press more. He has to tackle more seeing as he'll be left alone by himself more often. He had 20 more tackles last year than he had any other year of his career. I don't think that's a fluke.
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Where did you find that stat? Your imagination? It's not a fluke.. it's just not true.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...F/FlowBr99.htm

http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonflowers/754/profile

TEX 06-15-2014 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10692279)
I will add that cutting Flowers only makes sense if we use the money for Houston etc.....
My thoughts exactly...

jjchieffan 06-15-2014 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10692192)
By waiting until June 1, they can spread the cap hit over two seasons instead of absorbing it all this season.
That's incorrect. Under the new CBA they could have cut him sooner and still designated him as a June 1 cut. I believe teams are allowed to do that with 2 players each year. The Chiefs did it with none so the option was available. Waiting this long makes no sense

Rausch 06-15-2014 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10692481)
That's incorrect. Under the new CBA they could have cut him sooner and still designated him as a June 1 cut. I believe teams are allowed to do that with 2 players each year. The Chiefs did it with none so the option was available. Waiting this long makes no sense
This was my point...

OnTheWarpath15 06-15-2014 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10692481)
That's incorrect. Under the new CBA they could have cut him sooner and still designated him as a June 1 cut. I believe teams are allowed to do that with 2 players each year. The Chiefs did it with none so the option was available. Waiting this long makes no sense
I'll preface this by saying I'm not 100% sure, but IIRC, the money still stays on your cap until June 1st.

The Cowboys did this with Miles Austin, I believe.

xztop123 06-15-2014 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10692122)
Holy shit, your dumbassery needs to end. If you truly believe that just because you're playing Cover 3 means that you're going to have success, you are a complete mongoloid.

In the Div round this year, the Broncos had 3rd and 17 with 3:07 left with the ball on their own 20. Peyton correctly worked away from the rotation and found Thomas for a 21 yard gain.



The defense the Chargers called?



Your beloved, all-powerful, unstoppable Cover 3.



Hoo. ****ing. Ray.
The chargers dont play cover 3 press out of the 4-3 under.

xztop123 06-15-2014 11:05 AM
Would Flowers make Seattles roster if they could have him for cheap? No becuase they'd take a 6'2 UDFA who can run over him

xztop123 06-15-2014 11:11 AM
But yes installing a cover 3 press won't make your defense = to Seattles. Or else the Jags would be the second best D in the league.

The point is that you need the players, and that's how my comments relate to this thread, the players Seattle is choosing in the secondary are large UDFA type CB's


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