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pugsnotdrugs19 04-07-2017 01:40 PM

I fully expect Cleveland to trade up from 33 in order to get 3 total first round picks, and take a QB with the 3rd one. They liked Davis Webb a lot when coaching him at the Senior Bowl, IIRC. They could come away with a first round haul that includes Myles Garrett, O.J. Howard, and Davis Webb if they trade up back into the first round to get that 5th year option.

If the Chiefs want a QB, they need to be safe and trade up a little. Otherwise, they will be getting leapt without question by another team. Not to mention, they have teams ahead of them like Houston and NYG that seem interested in QBs too.

Dorsey should be targeting a trade that puts them in the late teens, maybe 20.

The Franchise 04-07-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12814484)
I fully expect Cleveland to trade up from 33 in order to get 3 total first round picks, and take a QB with the 3rd one. They liked Davis Webb a lot when coaching him at the Senior Bowl, IIRC. They could come away with a first round haul that includes Myles Garrett, O.J. Howard, and Davis Webb if they trade up back into the first round to get that 5th year option.

If the Chiefs want a QB, they need to be safe and trade up a little. Otherwise, they will be getting leapt without question by another team. Not to mention, they have teams ahead of them like Houston and NYG that seem interested in QBs too.

Dorsey should be targeting a trade that puts them in the late teens, maybe 20.

Colts at 15 or Dolphins at 22 are good spots depending on who they want.

Coogs 04-07-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12814497)
Colts at 15 or Dolphins at 22 are good spots depending on who they want.

Titans at 18 might not be bad either.
That is a 220 point differential though, which would be both of our 3rds.

It also works out close to give them our second, and flip both of our thirds. 83 and 100 from them for 91 and 104 from us.

Mr. Laz 04-07-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 12814192)
I'm in this camp.

And I may be alone here, but I am all for moving up to get the one we want (we being Dorsey and Reid). I know it's a deep draft and we have some other needs, but this is almost the perfect situation for us to go QB in the 1st.

I don't think that Dorsey is not a big Trade Up guy. I think many GMs think that the cost is almost always too high. Although maybe Dorsey will trade up for a QB when he really wants one.

But does Reid really want one?
Will Dorsey trade up for anyone?

Has Dorsey traded up since he came to KC?(I only remember trading down)

Imo it seems like there are 2 main types of GMs in the NFL.

One is the President/GM type guys who are buyers and sellers. They hire a player personnel guys to run their scouting and player evaluations while they focus on wheeling and dealing and being the President of the team.

The other type is a Scout/GM and they "grew up" in the scouting dept. They believe that quantity is better than quality when it comes to draft picks. They trust that their eye for talent will accumulate more talent in the long run as long as they have enough draft picks.

staylor26 04-07-2017 03:43 PM

Dorsey traded up for Conley

Mr. Laz 04-07-2017 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12814659)
Dorsey traded up for Conley

Thanks

DaFace 04-07-2017 09:00 PM

Well, that was a train wreck. Carry on...

stumppy 04-07-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12815192)
Well, that was a train wreck. Carry on...

Good call.

BossChief 04-07-2017 09:33 PM

No way in hell I'd trade up to the teens for Mahomes.

In most drafts? Sure.

And I love the kid.


But, this draft is going to have FIRST ROUND TALENT IN THE THIRD.

Wanna move up? Use next years second or third.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-07-2017 09:45 PM

Peterman is a turd.

MahiMike 04-08-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12810829)
I don't agree with that.

I just think that Kansas/Missouri etc is a conservative part of the country. No, i'm not talking about politics. I lot of Chiefs' fan just don't want to REALLY suck. The boom/bust moves that some people want to take is not something that people in these parts are comfortable with.

Most Chiefs' fans are all for improving the QB position, they just don't want to go "all in" to do it. Not the same as not wanting to win a super bowl.

I wish we were more aggressive, but Reid/Dorsey are about as conservative as it gets. They are a good fit for this part of the country.

This is very true and the reason why the chiefs and Royals flourish here. Hard working honest folks will endure more than most.

splatbass 04-08-2017 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12815540)
This is very true and the reason why the chiefs and Royals flourish here. Hard working honest folks will endure more than most.

You must not be talking about people on CP, because all I see here are people that cry like little bitches every time the Chiefs don't do what they want them to do.

nychief 04-08-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12815540)
This is very true and the reason why the chiefs and Royals flourish here. Hard working honest folks will endure more than most.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJbSvidohg

Red Dawg 01-05-2019 05:38 PM

Pretty clear we drafted the right guy. Watson is still learning but Mahomes is also. It's just that Mahomes is miles ahead of him.

Bewbies 01-05-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12815272)
No way in hell I'd trade up to the teens for Mahomes.

In most drafts? Sure.

And I love the kid.


But, this draft is going to have FIRST ROUND TALENT IN THE THIRD.

Wanna move up? Use next years second or third.

Nailed it. LMAO


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