So you have a huge nose and you hate spending money. That's cool.

No, what you did is pick a fight with someone about a meaningless opinion. Someone who is a fan of the same ****ing team. I'm a KU fan through and through. Ask any people on this board who have met me. Hell -- ask a couple of MU guys who I've spoke to on this board. I get that KU has a lot of arrogant, self centered fanboi(whatever this ****ing means) prick fans, but I can assure I am not one of them.

And sorry, my opinion of a lazy player is someone who is constantly careless with the basketball. Over and over and over again. That's fine if you disagree, but I am not going to get my panties in a bunch for you having a differing opinion.

And I'm sure as hell not going to call you out for being a fanboi(Chinese KU fan) for having an opinion about one ****ing player on the team.

And you keep referencing the defensive aspect of the game. Where I've made it more than clear EJ has been lazy on the offensive side.

CJ- 2

TC-1

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I'm not trying to make this a pissing match.

It is a simple difference of opinion.

Don't call me out like I creampied your sister.

You were winning. Excuse the **** outa me!

:D

I've always enjoyed TTC's posts, not just KU oriented -- but about the Chiefs and Geno, too.

Just can't believe it escalated that quickly.

It's like daddy hit mommy at the dinner table and everyone pretends it never happened and they try to continue to eat.

Guys, guys, guys. We're all KU fans here. Fans of the best program in the nation. This team has its faults but so does every team. Just as KCC mentioned, this team is better than the one that went to the title game last year. I feel more confident this year than I did last year. We'll be fine. This is KU.

TTC has always been a good dude. No problems here. Sheesh try to have fun with some people..... ugh.

I feel less confident than last year... and I had no confidence we'd beat UK... but it's still awesome being a KU fan.

LOL Good lord.

If he knew my sister he wouldn't volunteer that kind of info.

I'm more confident because of this guy...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCEVi4OCcAE4PZA.jpg:large

This pic was from today. This guy was messing around in AFH and captured this pic of BMac shooting around by himself.

Still feel less confident?

It was worded very poorly.

It was directed to TCC.

But, with enough Smirnoffs I may creampie your sister too, Johnny.

:)

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Check out the #8 in our projected bracket. LMAO

I see them continuing to fall off, though. If they're even in the tournament, it will probably be a higher seed than 8.

Cool. Marry her too then. I'd probably like you better than my idiot BIL.

Yes. I'm never confident once KU reaches the elite 8. After that it's all icing. What a guy can do in an empty gym... as a freshman... means exactly nothing when it comes to the big stage.

KU had lost 4 games at this time last year (including one to Davidson). I also don't think there is any super team like UK this year, although Florida might prove me wrong (going to take more than blowing out shitty teams in the SEC to do that, though).

He's putting in the work. He's not your ordinary freshman. He wants to be the best. He's arguably THE best player in the nation. He just needs to be more aggressive.

If you get to the elite 8, each of the games is pretty much 50/50 at this point anyway. That's exactly when I stop worrying and just enjoy the moment (well unless they play a team like VCU...they should have beaten VCU, damn that Shaka Smart).

Holy ****. Weren't they top 10 at one point? They're barely above .500? In the S-E-Mother****ing-C? Kentucky isn't even good this year. I know they got pisspounded by Florida, which is understandable, but my ****, LSU and Ol Miss? And their best win is Illinois? God damn.

At first glance I thought someone snuck a camera in to heaven and sent the picture down from above. I hope that's what's waiting for me in the great beyond.

I think Jeff Withey might be the most impactful player in the nation. He should win the equivalent of basketball's Heisman (whatever that's called...the Wooden award, I think), but he never will. Not hyped enough.

McLemore might be the nation's best prospect. I haven't quite decided who is better between him, Muhammed, and Noel and who should be the #1 pick, but that's because they all seem to be getting better all the time.

That's all well and good. I'm going to keep my expectations at a minimum and enjoy whatever ride we take come tourney time. It's still college bb. It's still kids playing. Teams from nowhere get hot... good teams lose. I don't care how the rest of cbb is playing I only care about KU. Play great or get beat by someone else who does when it really counts.

I would love to pound them in the tournament for old times sake.

Don't disagree at all. I just want another title and he isn't going to win it alone.

I guess the thing I am looking forward more so than anything else in regards to the tournament this year is the simple fact there are no clear cut favorites.

March is the best ****ing month of the year.

Yeah, MU isn't good. They don't play any defense and their offense isn't anywhere what it was last season. I had hopes they could go into UK and get a win, but there's no chance of that shit happening. They need to just worry about holding serve at home and getting in the tournament.

That's the truth. It's a free for all this year. Gonna be fun.

That's why I'm not as worried as some of ya'll. I like our chances.

Don't misunderstand me. I like our chances too. I watch the few games I get to see and make the few judgements I can make. I just know we can play a lot better than we have and I really want us to do that... to reach our potential. A KU title means more to me than just about anything. You should have seen me the 2 times we've won it all in my lifetime. No one is happier than me. I want it so bad I probably obsess too much about our shortcomings once it comes tourney time. During the regular season I forgive and hope... but this year just feels different. This team feels like it can be really special if they clean it up. Just clean it up for the love of GOD!

I can tell you this is a good board to talk ku hoops. I don't consider myself negative at all, especially compared to Jayhawk fans on CP but youll get lynched on Scout if you question any player, any coach, or any decision made by the staff. The beauty of message boards is supposed to be sharing of opinions and insight not freaking out bcuz someone has a different viewpoint than you.

I will say this if this team is going to make a deep March/April run, Perry Ellis HAS to improve. It will be that time of year where's he's played/practiced enough that's he no freshman any longer. Kevin Young can eat up some mins a little bit but Withey isn't a dominating offensive force....someone down low has to pick up some slack.

He's a extremely weak back to the goal type of player. I think he's a boy playing w/ a bunch of men out there. He was very big fish in a very small pond in HS, now he's playing against much better talent and he no longer can use his poor mechanics and dominate.

He's in my shit house right now. I can't believe he was a top McD's guy.

Your expectations are way too high. Five star freshmen are still freshmen. He will be fine. Just not this year early. He's been far improved as the season has gone along. He'll be fine.

I lurk on phog.net just because there's a lot more info to be gathered there, but you're right, I don't post there because I don't want to get into a pissing match with another KU fan who can't be objective. Here we seem to have a small core of guys who all sort of gather around for the games and occasionally talk about stuff in between. As long as we understand that people are allowed to have their own opinions, this is the best place to discuss KU hoops for me.

Since 2010 I've gotten so tight leading in to March. I get grouchy and I feel physical evidence of stress. It's ridiculous. I'm a grown man, I shouldn't get this worked up, but damnit I love KU basketball. I think the combination of making the title game last year and some other much more difficult personal shit happening right now have calmed me because I feel a lot more...zen about KU right now. I know they aren't playing their best right now, but I'm excited to see them put together a game like against Colorado again. It's going to happen, and just at the right time.

The loss to Northern Iowa in 2010 was the worst for me. That team should have steamrolled to the title, plus Sherron might be my all time favorite Hawk. I took that loss harder than any other loss of any of my favorite teams (the loss to the Dolphins in the playoffs in '90 is probably 2nd. Damnit I was so upset after that). I didn't watch basketball until the title game, and only then I watched the second half.

Man, he's not that bad. He's got some really good moves down there. But it has taken him awhile to get used to the physical play. He's not a physical beast like Robinson was, but right now, he's playing one hell of a lot better than Robinson was at this stage in his career. The last few games, he has been scoring some points and doing really well on the boards IMO.

The fact is he didn't go to a prep school or some place that he went for D-I prep. He played Kansas High School Ball. I mean FFS, my HS in the middle of bum****nowhere played against Frankamp's team that was a constant opponent of Eliis' a few weeks ago, and took them to overtime. Lets be real here. SCHS isn't necessarily good training for D-I players.

I'm with Silock. Your expectations were a little high. I'd scale them back some with Frankamp.

Hey man, sorry about your personal stuff. But I was all zen with last years team. I looked up and down the roster and thought there's no way they win the conference, much less do ANYTHING in the tournament. I had no idea Robinson would be the best player in the nation, and Withey would do what the NPOY winner did better than the NPOY winner. I expected a lot out of TT, and while he did surpass my expectations, nothing like Robinson and Withey. My god Withey could barely walk the year before.

So yeah, there was a LOT of icing on the cake for me last year. And I think I'm a little more worked up about this years team, it is nothing like the 08 team in terms of being "due".

:hmmm:

Were you in grade school during 1997 & 1998?

Why not? KU has the best recruits every year in the league, why shouldn't they win it every year?

They should turn the lights on for him.

Watching Syracuse at Pitt is like watching paint dry.

I don't think he wanted anyone to know he was in there.

LMAO

Bill Self ruins guards!!!11!!1!!



I'm not back through all the arguing, so I'll just say.....EJ is playing out of position. He's a 2 guard playing point.

No, I was a student at KU. But there was too much else going on at that time to get that upset about a game. Even with everyone around me pissed/depressed about it I was too focused on studying and work to let basketball affect me. Now that I'm a professional and work stays at work and doesn't come home like school often does, it's different.

Winning by association.....YAY SEC!!!1!!1!! LMAO

It makes me happy to see Syracuse lose.

I guess the thing that can be said that a lot of spoiled KU fans seem to forget is that we may not be playing well, but it hasn't turned in to losses yet.

Meh. KU is bound to lose one they shouldn't sooner or later. We go through these ups & downs every year - and I'm sure all teams do. Fact is KU will still win the Big 12 by 2 games, still be a #1 seed, and still have as good of chance to win the championship as any team in the country.

They probably have a better chance than quite a few schools.

I feel better about our chances this year than last.

I've taken to cringing when Elijah sets to shoot.

How dare you say KU sucks and disrespect Bill Self like that.

are you saying that Self doesn't know where to put his players?

ugh... Elijah.

Ughlijah

EJ needs a sports psychologist.

No flow on offense, can't guard thus far on D.

Tyshawn Taylor Jr.


He learned well.

We had better wake up ugly ugly ugly.

You've got to be ****ing kidding me with this shooting.

Our defense is bad too, typical shooting and start for us but we can't seem to stop them.

OSU is just getting wide open shots all over the place.

our defense isn't really designed to stop outside shooting

we just assume that eventually they will cool off and things will balance out.

EJ put us in this hole to start with his selfish play trying to get out of his slump.

OSU is playing atypically for them. They are not a 3 pt shooting team.

If we can't make layups might as well just hang it up today.

Moves? Uhh...he has zero moves on the block.

He plays with his back towards the basket...has no god damn idea how to post up with a good angle. I think not having Manning at KU is hurting this team's low post players.

But yes Ellis is that bad...so far

This is how we lose in the tourney, when we do.

another forced pass to a guy that wasn't open intercepted.... KU never learns.

Yup, one player we have no answer for and just poor offensive selection.

Self needs to get through to these guys. It seems like he's not.

This shit is gay.

Traylor!!!!!!!!

Bmac!!!!!

That's what is needed. Ben asserting himself on both ends.

EJ jacking up another one



saved by Bmac!!!

It's hard to get through to kids that can, and are, half assing it to victory. It seems every year we have a similar problem.

McLemore needs to be more aggressive like that more often than he does. He's too passive.

Ben needs to step up big time in this game, our offense is not good without him scoring 30+.

This game is really,really good for us.


better now than in the tourney

The energy just isn't there like it was at the beginning of the year before the layoff after the Ohio State victory.