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I didn't think it was possible after the SB....but I like him just a bit more...

Skip really needs to **** off. It's like he didn't even want to be there interviewing Clark.

One of Frank's best appearances. I like Frank Clark.

Odd that Skip Clueless had no knowledge of Clark's childhood history (especially when you consider that Clueless is supposed to be a sportscaster). They didn't do any research at all into the players participating in the Super Bowl?

Clueless' transparent efforts to generate a headline were also amusing.

And good on Frank that he didn't take the chum that Clueless was dropping into the water. The Shark says, "Try all you want, but you're wasting your bait, man. Keep that up and I'm gonna sink your boat."

FAX

His response to Skip trying to goad him into saying multiple SBs back to back should be expected was perfect. Skip is such a troll and not a very good one at that.

Black Elvis on Whitlock's Speak for Yourself today:

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Weird to me that Whitlock wasn't hosting the show today, especially with Frank at the table. You'd think he would've wanted to fanboy a little.

I know he'll make some big play at the end of the game to make me look stupid but man this guy never gets any consistent pressure like a player of his salary should.

Whitlock is OUT at Fox Sports and has been since June

.... what

You think he gets consistent pressure?

Entire Dline failed to show up today. They just took naps instead.

Now you've done it.

This thread should never be bumped.

LMAO you’re arguing with a very old post

Didn't watch this game, so I'm not getting into this shit, but what do you mean by "consistent" pressure? Getting pressure on every pass play on half of them? Because I think you are just posting while emotional which is bad. Looking at total pressures for the year before today Frank Clark was 10th in all the NFL with 11 and Chris Jones was tied for 5th in total pressures with 13, but he only played in 3 games at the time.

So, how about you take some time to calm down and not post when you're mad. I don't know how anyone looked, but we ****ing lost to the Raiders and that's just shitty.

LMAO

The entire DL was shit today. Chris Jones got 1 pressure. That was pretty much it from the DL

Did Pennel get injured partway through the game? I didn't notice him out there a lot or at all in the 2nd half? He's crucial to our run D.....

Hi genius!

Check the date of that post of mine would you, sweetie?

Frank Clark isn't the problem. He could have been better, but the loss wasn't on him.

We REALLY missed L'Jarius Sneed out there today. His speed would have prevented some of those big plays by Ruggs or at least would have been able to make the tackle quicker.

At least one of those Ruggs catches was actually DD misreading the play at the snap. He really is something of a liability playing deep.

Yeah i dunno what the deal was there.

Gotta love MegaThreads

I have never seen ANYONE so protective of the shit they post.

Good ****ing grief, you're ****ing woman.

Hahahaha, yes donkey, keep crying. I tease you a little bit, and you make with the cursing and the insults. Who's the over-sensitive little girl?

Keep being you though. I love to see you get all bent. :thumb:

You just couldn't help yourself could you?

Had to come back for some more.

And you just keep on being a real ****ing ****.

He right you know.meme

You stepped on your dick. Did you honestly think you wouldnt be given shit for a mindless response to a 7 month old post, on CP of all places?

Must be slipping.

Clay, and it may be more than a stupid question.


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Patrick Mahomes is a flash in the pan.

Had to be said.



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and you're a know nothing bitch talking asshole who should stick to chase underage actresses in cali and leave football to the rest of us.


Time for another sabbatical, pussboy.

While I'm on a roll, however...

Can anybody tell me why Frank Clark with all his tenacity and attitude can't ever seem to finish sacks? He sure does leave a lot of them on the field where other guys seem to have no trouble taking down the QB and completing the big play.

Yeah, the pressure is nice and all, but...

It seems like he just yeets his body a qbs expecting them to fall sometimes. He could probably be a 20 sack guy if he follows through on those. It is a head scratcher. As a fatty who played DL and DE in high school I always considered that the easy part, and getting to the qb the actual job.

And this is Dane. Did you honestly think he wasn't going to call someone a **** for doing so?

Kolton Miller is developing.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kolton Miller shut down Frank Clark in Week 5. If you said these words two years ago on this website it would&#39;ve been dismissed &amp; laughed at by nearly everyone (including me). Incredible job by Tom Cable &amp; Miller. Great example of why &quot;traits&quot; matter so much in the process too. <a href="https://t.co/SXTHi7vhZM">pic.twitter.com/SXTHi7vhZM</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1316052165945942023?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

2 of those plays weren't Frank Clark, they were Willie Gay and Taco Charlton if I'm seeing correctly.

That being said, Miller did a fine job for sure.

This is my theory after watching a bunch of film from last season: he's aiming too high, like about shoulder height. He needs to aim for the midsection, and he'll bring people down a lot more consistently.

Funny thing is, I can't imagine why he hasn't seen it himself, or at least one of the coaches; it's kind of obvious to me. Which just leads me to think maybe I'm missing something.

It depends on a lot of factors. Just watching film sometimes isn't enough without knowing what Spags was trying to do. It seemed like they were more concerned with keeping Carr in the pocket and trying to interrupt pass lanes. Gruden likes to run a lot and use the 3 step game, so they probably didn't expect to get to him a lot unless they could force 3rd and long situations (which they didn't do a lot of) where they had to run 5-7 step type routes. Gruden ran a sh1t ton of play action with a little waggle as well so they had to play gap integrity first. Either way I expected better dline play that game. It was a sh1t fest even with 8 in the box, too much reading and not enough run blitzing.

Okay. But even if I agree with you, none of that explains why Clark seems to aim high when he tackles. Not all the time, but a lot.

Heard a quote on the radio, with Frank it is always really great or really horrible, no consistency or average games.

That's like half of the league, though.

Just throwing this out here but I wonder if it has to do with hitting the QB and being worried about getting flagged. I've seen two flags in the last two weeks for QB's getting hit in the thighs, which should be legal.

Maybe. It just seems so academic: aim just above the hips, so youreyes are focused on the hips and he can't juke you.

On a sidenote, I noticed that Chris Jones aims high as well. Missed a couple sacks already this season because he went for the shoulders and the QB ducked and basically went under his arm.

It's clearly an issue with this defensive line that needs to be addressed. I hope our defensive coaches are coaching them up. These should be easy fixes.

I have faith in the coaches. Chris Jones was a liability against the run in 2018 and started out 2019 much the same way. They refocused him after the Titans loss and he was a force for the rest of the season.

Yeah Spags is good at coaching dlines we should be alright in that area at least.

Also, our CBs and Safeties have to get better at defending the deep ball now that Ruggs is in the division.

Let's get ben Kneeman off the field allso

The two deep balls look like blown coverages or at least they seemed confused. The Agholor grab it looked like Honey was late rotating to deep middle (started as a two high look) and on one of the Ruggs grabs the DB let him run right by (need to recheck the a22).

That too.

Def have to be more careful w our soverages now that Ruggs is here. Make a mistake he'll burn you much like Tyreek.

Yep. Blown coverages. No deep help or late deep help.

Gonna need Sneed to matchup with Ruggs' speed, that will help too.

We'll see them again. We will be ready next time!

Fun fact most people didn't know: Frank Clark actually played today! Most people didn't even notice.

something is weird about his pass rush. Seems he ends up over penetrating and winding up 6 or 7 yards behind the QB. It's like he beats his man by blowing past him but can't seem to turn in, or something. IDK

Frank Clark will forever be a Legend in Chiefs Kingdom, as will Damien Williams. But, he has been MIA recently. Today we got up so quickly that the Jets couldn't really run the ball, which means I don't have to watch Clark ignore his edge responsibility and crash down the line of scrimmage, creating an opening for the running back on the edge where Clark should have been, when I watch the all-22.

This year our pass rush seems to be generated from the inside out, instead the other way around. But, we are playing well as a defense overall, so maybe Frank is just saving himself for the playoffs.

Honestly, I think that in big games Clark always shows up, so if he isn't lighting it up right now, I'm not that concerned.

But, it would be nice if he could set the damn edge and quit crashing down the LOS.


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The OT is letting him run himself out of the play.

He's def not like a Hali where you know guy will get at least a few pressures every game at minimum. Some games Clark is great and others he is nonexistent like you said.

I feel like a lot of Clark's sacks are due to coverage anyway. He's good don't get me wrong but he's not a Hali type, not even close.

We need more production from Clark. He’s not being paid $104m to occasionally show up. Last year he was playing hurt and then when he finally got healthy he was a force and had some key sacks at critical points in games. 3 sacks through 8 games isn’t good enough.

Maybe Clark just ate some hot wings again.

I’d rather him show up against the Steelers than the Jets.. Making plays in the playoffs is worth the 104 mil..

So he’s back to ****ing sucking again?

Clark has little to no bend around the edge.

I mean...ultimately this...but it's still disheartening to see him periodically show up given his salary.

It's not all about sacks, but he's being paid to get to the QB 13+ times a season.

Part of it I think is that the other DE spot has been so hit and miss. Teams can put more resources to a single DE and let the other one do whatever.

He’s fine. He pushed the qb back up in the pocket for Chris Jones to get.

If he disappears in the playoffs I’ll give a shit.

The regular season is just the warmup.

No he didn't. Chris Jones whipped ass multiple times and blew by the lineman.

Wait what? Chris Jones does 99% of the dirty work for the DLine. He gets his own and he sets up the DEs to get theirs. Clark benefits from Jones 100 times more than Jones benefits from Clark.

I agree 100%. The problem is that at this point he hasn’t really showed up at all. Really hoping his production picks up down the stretch.

This.

But he's paid $100million to not disappear in either.

Can’t wait to bump this stupid ass thread in a couple months. The same thing will happen and the same people will bitch.

Well the difference between Chris Jones and Frank Clark is that Chris Jones is an elite HOF talent and Frank Clark is just above average. Elite players consistently get pressure and make an impact throughout the game, but above average players go stretches where they don't look very good.

Outside of guys like Aaron Donald, you're talking about nearly every highly-paid defensive player in the NFL.

I'd rather pay $100 mil for a guy to ball out in the playoffs. If he was the reason we lost HFA, then I would bitch again, but I'll keep my mouth shut until he sucks in a post season, if/when that happens.

Should have put Chris Jones in that post as well. While he doesn't have the sacks, he has been collapsing the pocket consistently and getting a ton of QB hits and pressures forcing bad throws.

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people complaining about 3 FGs and players on our D is crazy...

Even Chris Jones has lapses in his game, particularly against the run.

He's on pace for 6 sacks man. Six. C'mon man.

I'd rather pay $100 to a guy that can do both. So you wouldn't complain if the chiefs had re-signed Sammy Watkins to a top 3 WR contract cause he balls out in the playoffs?

I get that. But so are quite a few other guys.

Sacks usually come in bunches. One game with 2 or 3 and he's on pace for 11-13, which we both know he probably won't reach this season.

Sacks are streaky. It's about pressure rate. His pressure rate is down this year and that's concerning. It's not the end of the world, however.