I would like to know where we are going to find all these other players, you know, to actually field a football team, when we have to spend 5 picks a year on quarterbacks in the middle rounds in order to ensure the same quantitative amount of success as drafting one in the first round.

Where do you find this stuff. I actually want to look at the names of the QBs drafted. I know Bulger was a 4th, seems like there were a few others in the 2000-2004, but I don't know what years.

And also, there seems to be different grading scales.

In a thread in the draft forum, Joey Harrington was considered an average NFL QB, and not considered a bust, even though he was the #3 pick, so if that is the standard for average, I want to find the rest of these QBs.

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Pigpen's upside, his ceiling, is probably competent backup.

The ceiling for both Stafford and Sanchez is considerably higher. Will they be HOFers? No clue. But, yes, they both have that type of *potential*.

I guess you missed the part where we were talking about successful QB's taken outside the 1st round.

Yeah, and they suck. Hence not showing them as successes.

what % of NFL teams have a first round pick at starting QB compared to other rounds.

Bulger was a 6th, # 168 in 2000.

He and Brady are the 2 successful QB's outside the 1st round of the 2000 draft.

It's some kind of dictionary with a name that sounds like it was made up by those Islander people that kind of look like Chinamen.

Willfredia?
Honowaidia?

Wikipedia....I was way off

Here's my thoughts on Thigpen...

I like what I see with his competitive nature - I loved watching Green take off down field and nail someone for the ball carrier, yeah it's hard on QBs and no it isn't a good idea, but it shows a desire to win - I see this with Thigpen, he's got heart.

I also like Thigpen's ability to make things happen with his legs. He's got enough speed to gain some yards if he has to scramble.

He appears to be tough - at least tough enough to last the rest of the season behind this line.

I think he put up some pretty impressive stats for a 2nd year QB seeing his first real field time this year.

I think he's rough and needs work - especially his footwork. On multiple step drops he tends to throw off his back foot instead of stepping into the pass, sending the ball high. But I think some work on mechanics and more work at reading Ds could really make a difference.


I'm not necesarily saying I think Thigpen SHOULD be our starter, I've posted numerous times that I'm for drafting/signing some QBs and making him compete for the job.

I also, as I've stated before, am not impressed with Stafford or Sanchez. If Bradford were there at the 3rd pick, I'd take him in a heartbeat. I'd lobbying for him in threads from the time he declared until the time he was picked. Why, because I really believe he has what it takes to make a stud Pro QB - arm, intelligence, accuracy, ability to read Ds and adjust, etc. Sanchez started one year and I read that even his coach thinks he needs another year in college. Stafford put up some numbers, but I've also read where he really didn't play at his full potential - read one commentator that said with the talent he had around him his numbers should have been much higher. I really don't want to draft a 70 million dollar qb that may or may not make it when we could quite possibly trade down and get him for a third to half that amount and get another draft pick to boot. We could also pass on them, and nab a couple of QBs off the next tier level and see which ones pan out.



I guess my responding question to the "Anti-Thigpen" crowd is...

Do you really, really like either Stafford or Sanches and think that player is who we need, or are do you just want a first round draft pick QB so bad that you will take one of these two 'cause they are the best that's available?

You're probably going to have to do this Google thing yourself.

All the cool kids are using it.

to be honest, I don't use that often. Just type in 2000 QBs, etc?

drafthistory.com is a good resource

2000 NFL Draft.

That's kind of pointless.

We have a 7th starting.

Doesn't mean he's any good.

The Raiders have a 1st overall starting.

Doesn't mean he's any good either.

perfect. thanks man. Rep to you.