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TEX 04-09-2014 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10550146)
He was completely lost.

He's got guys that are 280 lbs JUKING him right off the line.

He's bull rushed over.

He's slapped and pushed.

He was beaten every way a man can be beaten short of prison seggs...
Exactly like Bruce Mathew's first season...He was a low 1st round pick himself, with a lot of expectations, and he was flat out terrible year 1. Mathews has stated many times that Fish has everything to become an excellent LT. He knows a bit about the subject and situation. I for one believe him. However, I understand how many folks wouldn't.

chiefzilla1501 04-09-2014 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10550282)
Nobody ever called Poe a bust.

The guy flashed top end ability pretty quickly.
Please. Throughout the season there was a nonstop bitchfest about how dumb the Chiefs were for taking a guy who flashed nothing in Memphis. The "bust" label may not have been thrown out as much, but the majority of posters on CP hated the pick all of last year.

BossChief 04-09-2014 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10550293)
Please. Throughout the season there was a nonstop bitchfest about how dumb the Chiefs were for taking a guy who flashed nothing in Memphis. The "bust" label may not have been thrown out as much, but the majority of posters on CP hated the pick all of last year.
A lot of posters didnt like the pick until the guy got on the field.

By mid season as a rookie, he was already playing at starters level and by years end was making plays.

chiefzilla1501 04-09-2014 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10550295)
A lot of posters didnt like the pick until the guy got on the field.

By mid season as a rookie, he was already playing at starters level and by years end was making plays.
That didn't stop people from bitching. The majority of people still hated the pick. It wasn't until this preseason that people started to change their minds. I know, because I was one of the few that defended the pick from day 1 (different from Fisher, where I've criticized the pick from day 1)

htismaqe 04-09-2014 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10550280)
If you truly believe that we should put QBs out there to fail early (I do), then we shouldn't be throwing bust labels at guys like Dontari Poe and Eric Fisher who are learning their way on the field in the first season. For as much as this fan base, both the homers and the critics, talk about taking chances we are way too risk averse.
I think all players should play. I've never been a fan of sitting players.

But the same people here that make excuse after excuse for a guy like Fisher are the ones that say we should sit a QB and let him learn behind a veteran.

It's all the same message - just win 9 games and make the playoffs. "Give me hope."

It's all BS.

BossChief 04-09-2014 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10550303)
That didn't stop people from bitching. The majority of people still hated the pick. It wasn't until this preseason that people started to change their minds. I know, because I was one of the few that defended the pick from day 1 (different from Fisher, where I've criticized the pick from day 1)
I don't remember it going down like that at all.

Sorry.

jd1020 04-09-2014 07:49 AM
I dont even recall people hating the pick.

I recall a bunch of people just wondering why the Chiefs couldn't have traded down to the late teens/early 20's and making the same pick while adding more draft picks.

BigMeatballDave 04-09-2014 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10550313)
I dont even recall people hating the pick.

I recall a bunch of people just wondering why the Chiefs couldn't have traded down to the late teens/early 20's and making the same pick while adding more draft picks.
Because it was a shit draft and no one wanted to move up.

jd1020 04-09-2014 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10550334)
Because it was a shit draft and no one wanted to move up.
Are you serious? Trades were happening left and ****ing right that draft.

In fact, Seattle traded the pick right after ours to go down 3 spots and added a 4th and 6th round pick.

RunKC 04-09-2014 08:15 AM
Fisher also played with a severely hurt shoulder and hand all year. That's not easy.

jd1020 04-09-2014 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10550348)
Fisher also played with a severely hurt shoulder and hand all year. That's not easy.
All he wanted was a number...

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7908056832/hEB71548E/

BigMeatballDave 04-09-2014 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10550339)
Are you serious? Trades were happening left and ****ing right that draft.

In fact, Seattle traded the pick right after ours to go down 3 spots and added a 4th and 6th round pick.
No one wanted 1.1. Why the **** would they?

htismaqe 04-09-2014 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10550370)
No one wanted 1.1. Why the **** would they?
He's talking about the Poe draft.

RealSNR 04-09-2014 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10550370)
No one wanted 1.1. Why the **** would they?
I know jd1020 was talking about 2012, but even this is bullshit.

The Raiders traded down from #3 overall. We could have easily done the same with the Dolphins and made Branden Albert a part of the deal.

milkman 04-09-2014 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10549931)
And you're this regime's Eeyore.

I'm sorry that if I don't blindly jump off cliffs because a guy struggles in his first season. I hated the pick. I still do. And I don't think he's an elite Left Tackle. I laid out plenty of reasons why he may be better but have never said he's a guaranteed success. I'm sorry if even the smallest hint of optimism smells like farts to you.
Show me where I have ever been critical of Fisher.
I've been critical of Dorsey for picking Fisher, but not of Fisher himself.

The Rufus Dawes comment is about you and the way your every post in every thread is defending every thing the Chiefs are doing.

I feel like I'm at a sewage facility and you're trying to tell me that smell in the air is chocolate.


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