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Bearcat 01-19-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16747136)
Almost seems higher than their average win %

Heh, that was my first thought.

All time record... 189-261 (.420)
Under 36⁰... 8-14 (.364)

Pepe Silvia 01-19-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16746738)

LMAO

rfaulk34 01-19-2023 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16747113)
who's got the jaguars record under 40 degrees

Lost to the Bengals in '00. 9 degrees
Beat GB in '04. 12 degrees
Lost to the Browns '09/'10. 16 degrees
Beat Pitt '17/'18 divisional round of playoffs. 18 degrees
Beat Browns in '05. 28 degrees

ThaVirus 01-19-2023 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16747099)
Brady got experience playing in cold weather games at Michigan and then of course playing in New England.

Trevor Lawrence played high school football in Georgia, college football at Clemson and now in the NFL in Jacksonville… he probably hasn’t played in many if any snow games in the entirety of his football career.

I still don't buy it.

The league is filled with guys who grew up in and went to college in California, Florida, Texas, Alabama, South Carolina, etc. who never struggled in cold weather NFL games.

Frazod 01-19-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16747209)
I still don't buy it.

The league is filled with guys who grew up in and went to college in California, Florida, Texas, Alabama, South Carolina, etc. who never struggled in cold weather NFL games.

It really doesn't seem like things like cold weather and high altitude effect players they way they used to. I think science, better cold weather gear and modern conditioning has negated them to a certain extent. Can't remember the last time I saw a visiting team fall apart in the 4th quarter in Denver because they were gassed, for example. As we all know too well, that happened frequently in the past. Seemed like those ****ers always got a couple of home wins that they otherwise wouldn't have because of it. Just doesn't seem to be a factor anymore. Even crowd noise doesn't seem to bother visiting teams like it once did.

It's not like Lawrence is going to be standing around shivering for three plus hours this weekend. We should beat them because we're better, not because they're cold.

FloridaMan88 01-19-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16747209)
I still don't buy it.

The league is filled with guys who grew up in and went to college in California, Florida, Texas, Alabama, South Carolina, etc. who never struggled in cold weather NFL games.

There are players who do struggle to adapt to cold weather... Tua for example.

It's not every player, but considering this will be Trevor Lawrence's first snow game in the highest of pressure situations... an NFL playoff game... it will be interesting to see how it affects his play.

TwistedChief 01-19-2023 03:22 PM

Marcus Mariota grew up in Hawaii and beat us in the second coldest game ever at Arrowhead. I’m not holding out much hope for the weather.

Megatron96 01-19-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16747285)
There are players who do struggle to adapt to cold weather... Tua for example.

It's not every player, but considering this will be Trevor Lawrence's first snow game in the highest of pressure situations... an NFL playoff game... it will be interesting to see how it affects his play.

And it doesn't have to be the QB that has the problems. I remember a game where the C was having issues snapping the ball in shotgun; he kept worm-burning it across the snow or over-compensating and snapping it almost over the QB's head, which resulted in the OC pretty much eliminating shotgun plays from the game.

Or a WR that has trouble catching/holding onto the ball in cold/wet weather, which is more common.

FloridaMan88 01-19-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16747300)
Marcus Mariota grew up in Hawaii and beat us in the second coldest game ever at Arrowhead. I’m not holding out much hope for the weather.

In the Before Mahomes Era.

wazu 01-19-2023 03:32 PM

Got to listen to Warren Sharp break down the gambler's perspective on this game. Sounds like among the "sharps" it's pretty much an even split of people making cases for either side of the 8.5 spread. Said a bunch of people are teasing it down to 3 points, and so casinos, etc will be hoping very strongly that the Jaguars just win outright.

Marcellus 01-19-2023 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16746252)
Looks like the weather is going to be shitty Saturday. 38 but rain and snow. Bad weather increases uncertainty

I used to think it was an act, now I'm convinced you are actually reeruned.

stevegroganfan 01-19-2023 03:35 PM

The wind is forecast to be minimal and studies/stats have shown it is severe winds that impact scoring much more than cold/snow. It has been like this for a while.

With severe wind, even someone with a strong arm like Josh Allen can't prevent the ball moving quite a bit in the wind. This is why the Bills lost that severe wind game to Mac Jones handing the ball off.

Jags in all likelihood will lose this weekend but the weather should be a very minor factor unless it causes a key player to fall/get hurt.

BWillie 01-19-2023 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16747300)
Marcus Mariota grew up in Hawaii and beat us in the second coldest game ever at Arrowhead. I’m not holding out much hope for the weather.

Alex Smiffs fault

BWillie 01-19-2023 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16747325)
I used to think it was an act, now I'm convinced you are actually reeruned.

Last game in bad weather nobody could catch a football.

Im not worried about Mahomes. Im worried about tipped passes leading to freak ints leading to....

Drumroll please.

Uncertainty.

Uncertainty when you are the favorite is bad. Uncertainty when you are the dog is good.

Pepe Silvia 01-19-2023 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16747323)
Got to listen to Warren Sharp break down the gambler's perspective on this game. Sounds like among the "sharps" it's pretty much an even split of people making cases for either side of the 8.5 spread. Said a bunch of people are teasing it down to 3 points, and so casinos, etc will be hoping very strongly that the Jaguars just win outright.

Well that’s not good.


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