Yeah, I remember that Duncan play. The Spurs employ the moving screen so often. They're quite excellent at it and even better at getting away with it.

Fair enough. They are pretty much a forgettable program on the national scale. Still doesnt change that SA is a terrible sports town

He's not rising to the occasion.

Dirk scored 48 in a conference finals game. Had 40 in another game that same series.

We're waiting, LeBron.

I don't care who wins. I just want 7 extremely physical games.

ROFL it hurts you that old onewinski is going to fade into obscurity huh?

Your posts are so stupid they don't even deserve a response, but I'll humor you (while also noting that LeBron went 45, 15, and 5 in an elimination conference finals game just last year on the road).

Anyway, LeBron won Game 1 on two drives to the basket in the last 20 seconds, he had a triple double in game 2 to nearly beat them again (but got absolutely no help from his teammates), he dominated Paul George in the post in game 3 to get an easy win on the road, and today he was by far the best player on the court again (but again got no help from his teammates outside of Chalmers).

He's also shooting 53% in the series while averaging 28 points, 7 rebounds, and 5 assists and being the best defensive player on his team. But yeah...totally not rising to the occasion. Try watching some of the games next time before spouting such ignorance.

It's a clear-cut moving screen.

LeBron's position as soon as Stephenson lifts his leg to move right.
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LeBron's position after he sets a moving screen. Notice how wide his legs are. Also, notice that as soon as LeBron's foot hits the floor, it makes contact with Stephenson's. His body is so wide he's pretty much taking up an entire arc.
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LeBron's position post-screen clearly indicating that his final screen position is dramatically different from his initial position (moving).
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ROFL Lebron clearly stepped on Stephenson's foot intentionally. Unless he has the widest base in NBA history.

Don't think anybody has argued that it wasn't a moving screen. They've just argued that it's a laughable call in that high leverage situation considering how many moving screens are made (and not called) in the NBA from possession to possession.

I want LeBron in a rematch from 2007 against the Spurs. That's the matchup I wanted last year (while most wanted Durant and the Thunder) and I don't want the Pacers to spoil it again like the Thunder did.

I think the Spurs will end up crushing the Pacers if they end up pulling the upset in this series, but I honestly don't know what would happen in a Heat/Spurs series.

Pacers got screwed for a while, then Miami got some bad calls. I pretty much just never want to see Joey Crawford officiating an NBA game ever again. Somehow that dipshit lingers in this league. Maybe he has photos of David Stern wearing a sheep costume with a ball-gag in his mouth getting it on with Ernie Johnson. I really don't know but it baffles me.

Yeah I was going to say...

LeBron was pissed down the stretch. It was him vs...

Bosh is worthless. Wade blew.

Don't worry, LeBron will have an eff you game 5. Oh and they need to let him rest more on defense...the fact he has to exert so much energy down low is bad for the team.

Did I mention Bosh is worthless?

I've always thought Bosh was a bitch. Even when he was the man in Toronto and scored a lot of points.

I think the Spurs would beat Miami relatively easily. If the Pacers can dominate Miami so easily on the inside then the Spurs will as well. While I like Paul George, I think at this point in time the Spurs backcourt is superior to the Pacers meaning not only can they beat Miami inside, but they could make things interesting for the Heat on the outside. Outside of Lebron who is a mismatch on whoever covers him, the Spurs match up against the Heat very, very well. I at this point in time would take Duncan over Bosh and Parker over Wade.

Don't care about all the excuses. LeBron needs to score 35+ in these games if he wants to be compared to MJ. He loses this series just shows he's a notch below MJ yet again.

Good player though. GOAT status still in question.

And FYI, yes, I know he had a great game against the Celtics last year.

THAT WAS LAST YEAR.

He better bust out some more of that shit or he's gonna get laughed at again.

MJs teams had good big men. They weren't consistently getting dominated like the Heat's big men are. That makes a difference. Jordan was great but when he won all six rings he was supported by a terrific supporting cast. He had a lights out shooter (Paxson, Kerr) two of the top forwards in the game (Grant, Pippen, Rodman) and a competent center who could hold his own (Cartwright or the other white guy whose name eludes me).

Lebron has none of that this series. Wade is a non factor as is Bosh and Miami is getting abused on the inside. That is not all on Lebron. He leads the team in scoring and rebounding and is shutting down Paul George. At some point others need to step up.

And they cant keep playing LeBron 40+ min a game if they want to extend this series or have him fresh against the Spurs.
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I see. So now LeBron's supporting cast isn't good enough. LMAO

Shit, LeBron only took 18 ****ing shots last night. You can't do that in a game where your elite supporting cast is being shitty.

LeBron took the night off, and fouling out was the icing on his shit cake.

If the Heat lose this series, look back to this game and LeBron being merely "good" when he needs to be "great."

Because if he ain't...then baby, he ain't.

Not this series. Anyone who is actually watching the games and not just hating on Lebron to hate on Lebron can see that. Wade and Bosh are non factors this series.

LeBron took the night off?

wow

what were you watching?

or let me guess

you didn't

I dislike LeBron as much as anybody here, but he's playing a good series. George is playing as good of defense as you can for a guy who can't be stopped when he's on. That being said, the defense he's seeing is also the kind of defense Jordan would see every single game in the playoffs. But it's hard to knock 30 or so points, especially when your other shooters are cold. That being said (again), Durant's supporting cast was a hell of a lot colder in the finals last year including usually reliable studs like Harden.

From a good basketball perspective, I would rather see Miami. From a fan wanting a championship, Indiana.

Spurs would knock out Indiana in 5 tops. Miami would be tougher but Spurs take it in 6 or 7. Their ball movement and down low play from Duncan and Splitter would be the difference.

This

I think Spurs can absolutely beat the Heat. Hell, they can beat them in 5.

Never doubt Pop. The guy does shit like bench all his starters down double digits and still finds a way to win. He's in the Phil Jackson tier of coaching.

Agreed. He's in the Norv Turner tier of faces also.

Just like Miami was supposed to "roll" over Indiana, right? This series is 2.1 seconds from being 3-1.

LMAO Everytime I see him I think he's a few years away from looking like Al Davis.

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Pacers have good interior defense but San Antonio's ball movement would neutralize that. Pacers also make a lot of young team type of mistakes. Spurs would kill Indiana on those mistakes.

The Spurs are a much better TEAM than Miami. Miami has the best player in basketball though, so they'll always be in contention because of that.

LeBron would punk your ass and win it again.

The Heat are winning it all, but enjoy your little fantasies.

ROFL Ok.

Didn't Dirk single handily take them down in the finals 2 years ago? that team wasn't even as good as the Spurs are now.

The Spurs are better than the 2011 Mavs and Thunder of last year (thanks to Harden disappearing).

I wouldn't count out the Spurs given the 2-3-2 format. I always liked that for the team without home court advantage.

No way the Heat beat the Spurs, if they even get that far.

Not a slam dunk. The pacers are competing off of fast passing and great ball movement. San Antonio does that. Parker is a surer ball handler than hill and will be a match up problemfor cCole and Chalmers. Kwahi kLeonard is the type of defender who can at least look respectable against LeBron.

To beat the spurs Miami shooters have to show up. They haven't against indy and showed up too sporadically against the bulls. Would be a good match up.

Not a slam dunk. The pacers are competing off of fast passing and great ball movement. San Antonio does that. Parker is a surer ball handler than hill and will be a match up problemfor cCole and Chalmers. Kwahi kLeonard is the type of defender who can at least look respectable against LeBron.

To beat the spurs Miami shooters have to show up. They haven't against indy and showed up too sporadically against the bulls. Would be a good match up.

You calling it rare is like you saying that holding in the NFL is a rare call, even though they call it a tiny fraction of the time compared to every play there is probably 10 guys holding. But holding in the NFL is not a rare call, it is routine just like moving\illegal screens are now a routine call in the NBA and have been since they decided to start focusing on it.

You can question the timing but Garnett has been called several times late in games on moving screens. This isn't something new.

Yeah, not even worth getting into a discussion when such blatant, ignorant trolling involved. LeBron has been fantastic this postseason.

I agree with all of your points and I can see the Spurs winning for all of those reasons, but the Heat are the team with LeBron James. That factor alone gives them a great chance in any series as well.

That few times he's been called on it, though, is only a small fraction of the amount of times he's done it late in games. Usually, both for him and others, it is let go...especially late.

Miami’s LeBron James and Indiana’s David West Fined $5,000
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The Heat’s LeBron James and the Pacers’ David West have been fined $5,000 each for violating the league’s anti-flopping rules during Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals. View video>>

Indiana’s Lance Stephenson Fined $5,000
May 29 2013 1:21PM
The Pacers’ Lance Stephenson has been fined $5,000 for violating the league's anti-flopping rules during Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals. View video>>

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$5,000 ain't enough.

I hate Lebron, but the guy does so much more than just score. He's just a beast all around player. Comparisons to Jordan at this point is stupid. That's something you gotta do after Lebron's career is over.

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Wade is shooting 48 percent this series.

Bosh is shooting 46 percent.

Is this the "weak supporting cast" we were told was hurting LeBron?

Nice turnover, LeBron.

Looking like an MVP tonight.

5 pts and 3 turnovers in that qtr for LeBron.

Great player.

What in the ****?

Turdman should be booted for that shit.

Paul George and Hibbert have all 29 points for the Pacers.


Chris Andersen and Hansbrough fighting over who gets to be the token white player.

Boot that kiddie lover out

How is that not a Technical?

Birdman is a goon.

Don't know how the **** it's a double technical.

Reggie going after the refs.

This is a ****ing joke.

He shouldn't even be in the game.

I was in the "I don't give a **** who wins" category, but now I am starting to lean towards "**** Miami".

What's even more hilarious is that Anderson was going after the wrong guy.

Unless Hansbrough farted in his face from a distance.

Would that be considered a "fragrant" foul? LMAO

A flatulent foul #2

West is a grown-ass man.

Bad sign. Pacers dominated the first half but are only up 2. Gotta get some guys besides George and Hibbert to make shots, especially from the outside.

LeBron's being a big pussy tonight. Bad sign.

Unless he finds his nuts in the 2nd half...curtains.

West missed 4 point blank layups this half.

I'm not sure if there's even any point in playing Chris Bosh in this series. He quite literally has been a huge negative for the Heat.

Spolster is clueless. They need offense.

Chris Bosh? He's played like an all star compared to Dwyane Wade.

He's shooting like 47 percent.

LeBron just isn't as good as everyone wants him to be.

We get it Clay.

They've both been total shit, but Bosh can't defend West or Hibbert even if he wanted to and he's not rebounding at all.

LeBron's teammates picking him up!

Your only purpose in this thread is to troll LeBron isn't it?

Indiana has ZERO outside shooting.

two awful back to back calls on hill.

Can Granger come in for a shot or two?

I'm pretty sure David West could kick the shit out of anybody on the court including LeBron.