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alnorth 02-25-2016 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 12098766)
How about instead of having to throw four pitches for an intentional walk, the fielding team's manager takes a step out of the the dugout and gives a hand signal to the home plate umpire?

That'll never work, it makes too much sense.

Sure-Oz 02-25-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12098576)
Better offseason?

Orioles: Davis/Gallardo/Fowler = 12/216 (18 per)
Royals: Gordon/Kennedy/Soria = 12/169 (14)


(Orioles deferred 1/4 of Davis' deal and claim it's only 127 present value. This would take the Os AAV above from 18M to 16 per year)

@Ken_Rosenthal: Dexter Fowler has re-signed with the #Cubs, per @MDGonzales. One year deal with mutual option.

WhawhaWhat 02-25-2016 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12098790)
@Ken_Rosenthal: Dexter Fowler has re-signed with the #Cubs, per @MDGonzales. One year deal with mutual option.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">there was no fowler agreement with orioles, both sides say now. unusual to take $13M over $33M but nothing wrong with it.</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/702919765493420034">February 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">cant blame fowler for following heart. unfortunately, he would have been better off taking the $15M qualifying offer</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/702919483707543552">February 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Weird.

SAUTO 02-25-2016 12:27 PM

He just gave away a bunch of money just to not play for the Orioles.

jd1020 02-25-2016 12:46 PM

Resigning Fowler confuses the **** out of me. This means one of 2 things, say bye bye to Soler or Schwarber will be catching. I guess they could also platoon Schwarber and Soler in LF but that would be pretty weird.

He seems happy though

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a> fans ... If this doesn&#39;t make your day, check your pulse! <a href="https://twitter.com/DexterFowler">@DexterFowler</a> is back: <a href="https://t.co/VMMrdz7Rs6">https://t.co/VMMrdz7Rs6</a><a href="https://t.co/D6xYCHu403">https://t.co/D6xYCHu403</a></p>&mdash; Chicago Cubs (@Cubs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/702924766798180352">February 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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AJKCFAN 02-25-2016 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by noa (Post 12098688)
Rany's list is so much fun. Just checked out his latest update.
Posted via Mobile Device

It really is monumental. Loving every second of it. I'm the one who is commenting on the game by game and player by player list of moments.

Wanted to ask.

Game 2 Astros
Game 4 Astros
Game 5 Astros
Game 2 Blue Jays
Game 6 Blue Jays
Game 1 Mets
Game 4 Mets
Game 5 Mets

In terms of greatness of the game itself (and not focusing on significance of the impact of the win) how do you rank them from best game to worst?

Then, where would Wild Card Game rank if added to the list?

(You could also make cases for Game 1 Angels, Game 2 Angels, Game 1 Orioles, Game 2 Orioles being in this elite level of classic games, among others but figured to ask everyone about those 2015 games and compare it to Wild Card game only...)

duncan_idaho 02-25-2016 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12098698)
Davis vs Gordon is a wash.



Gallardo vs Kennedy to the Orioles but I would put it as a lean towards Gallardo because he's always been up and down. Kennedy gets to work with the Royals D now as well along with his K rate.



Fowler vs Soria to the Orioles too, however they are both filling separate needs there. The Orioles OF would have been Adam Jones and 2 JAGs, at best, and Fowler helps a lot there. The Royals wanted another arm to replace Greg Holland, Soria doesn't replace Holland's production, who does really?, but Fowler is the better player.



I'll say Orioles win but if Gallardo goes back to being terrible and Soria steps into the Royals bullpen monster and produces then that can swing the other way.


I'm confident Kennedy is going to be a better player for KC than Gallardo will for Baltimore. Gallardo is cheaper and has fewer years on his deal, so there's less risk that way, but he also seems to be a much larger injury risk than Kennedy to me (declining K and help rates might indicate something is about to pop).

There's also a sizable gap in the draft pick sacrificed: No. 14 vs No. 24 pick.

Davis is a better offensive player than Gordon, but he has a smaller track record of performance. I think he's got more risk because the deal is bigger and he doesn't add as much value all-around as Gordon does. Both will age well, IMO.

Pitt Gorilla 02-25-2016 03:11 PM

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...42194800_o.jpg

Yick. Keep your stink away from our team!

Pitt Gorilla 02-25-2016 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12098738)
Looking at the contracts, it appears you could have both Fowler + Gallardo for Gordon. I'm not sure which is better. Last year they produced 5.7 WAR vs Gordon 2.8 (obv due to injury). Steamer projects 3.4 vs 3.8 for Gordon.

Fowler didn't sign with the O's.

lewdog 02-25-2016 03:29 PM

A few shots on Facebook I liked today.

https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...75376717_o.jpg

https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...67889920_o.jpg

Prison Bitch 02-25-2016 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 12098770)
Don't forget to subtract the WAR for whoever Gallardo would be pitching instead of in the rotation.

True. Some folks online claim the Os screwed both Gallardo and Fowler over by low balling them after "failed physicals". Apparently Fowler didn't put up with the charade.


Not sure if that sounds believable or not, but why would Fowler do this?

tk13 02-25-2016 06:16 PM

The Orioles have always been brutal when it comes to passing a physical.

duncan_idaho 02-25-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12099658)
The Orioles have always brutal when it comes to passing a physical.


And generally correct.

Demonpenz 02-25-2016 11:13 PM

is that rafael belliard for the braves out there?

TomBarndtsTwin 02-26-2016 02:08 PM

Single game tickets went on sale today. Get em for the games you want while you still can.

FYI, game 2 versus the Mets already sold out. They were gone in about 5 minutes.

Why Not? 02-26-2016 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 12101342)
Single game tickets went on sale today. Get em for the games you want while you still can.

FYI, game 2 versus the Mets already sold out. They were gone in about 5 minutes.

Waiting on the lottery draw for game 1. If I miss and any of you hit and want to sell, PM me.

Coach 02-27-2016 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12099599)
True. Some folks online claim the Os screwed both Gallardo and Fowler over by low balling them after "failed physicals". Apparently Fowler didn't put up with the charade.


Not sure if that sounds believable or not, but why would Fowler do this?

I think that the Cubs have a better chance of making it to the playoffs/World series than Baltimore will, especially in the AL East. Of course, on the other hand, the NL Central is probably going to be tough, minus the Brewers and the Reds.

Plus the Cubs are more talented.

WilliamTheIrish 02-28-2016 07:44 AM

Twins update:

All players have reported and they are closing in on the royals.

lewdog 02-28-2016 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 12103523)
Twins update:

All players have reported and they are closing in on the royals.

ROFL

Pitt Gorilla 02-28-2016 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 12103523)
Twins update:

All players have reported and they are closing in on the royals.

What is Yost doing?!?

C3HIEF3S 02-28-2016 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 12103523)
Twins update:

All players have reported and they are closing in on the royals.

mother****er. :cuss:

eDave 02-28-2016 06:20 PM

Lewdog and I caught practice today. Rode in the Mustang. It's sweet and Dog is so cool.

Guys are having fun. Salvy, I think, shanked a BP hit and Gordan yelled out "World Champions!" from left. Was funny. Early during base running, Salvy rounded third, where we were and the crowd cheered him. He stopped and tipped his cap, laughing the whole time.

Hitting looked really good, for batting practice. Lot's of bunting.

Salvy is entertaining. Great day overall. My face is burnt.

Oh and KU was playing Oregon in the game stadium. Lost 3-0.

Why Not? 02-28-2016 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12104252)
Lewdog and I caught practice today. Rode in the Mustang. It's sweet and Dog is so cool.

Guys are having fun. Salvy, I think, shanked a BP hit and Gordan yelled out "World Champions!" from left. Was funny. Early during base running, Salvy rounded third, where we were and the crowd cheered him. He stopped and tipped his cap, laughing the whole time.

Hitting looked really good, for batting practice. Lot's of bunting.

Salvy is entertaining. Great day overall. My face is burnt.

Oh and KU was playing Oregon in the game stadium. Lost 3-0.


WTF!!!!!! No invite!!!!!!


Just busting your chops. LD told me about it. I had to do taxes today.

lewdog 02-28-2016 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12104252)
Lewdog and I caught practice today. Rode in the Mustang. It's sweet and Dog is so cool.

Guys are having fun. Salvy, I think, shanked a BP hit and Gordan yelled out "World Champions!" from left. Was funny. Early during base running, Salvy rounded third, where we were and the crowd cheered him. He stopped and tipped his cap, laughing the whole time.

Hitting looked really good, for batting practice. Lot's of bunting.

Salvy is entertaining. Great day overall. My face is burnt.

Oh and KU was playing Oregon in the game stadium. Lost 3-0.

Was nice to not have to go up there by myself today! Thanks for driving out my way.

Good day of baseball.......although I'm not sure there's really a bad day of baseball for Royals fans lately. No player meetings today but oh well.

HOO BOY!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 12104327)
WTF!!!!!! No invite!!!!!!


Just busting your chops. LD told me about it. I had to do taxes today.

LAME.

Lewdog's taxes were done weeks ago and return is already in hand.

WINNING.

Why Not? 02-28-2016 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12104372)
Was nice to not have to go up there by myself today! Thanks for driving out my way.

Good day of baseball.......although I'm not sure there's really a bad day of baseball for Royals fans lately. No player meetings today but oh well.

HOO BOY!



LAME.

Lewdog's taxes were done weeks ago and return is already in hand.

WINNING.

Yes. Anyone who can have "tax return" in any part of their discussion on taxes is a winner against me.

But I'm a tough out in a round of "how big is the check I am writing to Uncle Sam this year".

Buehler445 02-28-2016 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12104372)


LAME.

Lewdog's taxes were done weeks ago and return is already in hand.

WINNING.

I had to pay in. It sux0r.

For the sake of accuracy, the return is what you file to the IRS. The refund is the money. In my case the money is a ****ing draft from my bank account.

Fairplay 02-28-2016 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12104252)
Lewdog and I caught practice today. Rode in the Mustang. It's sweet and Dog is so cool.

Guys are having fun. Salvy, I think, shanked a BP hit and Gordan yelled out "World Champions!" from left. Was funny. Early during base running, Salvy rounded third, where we were and the crowd cheered him. He stopped and tipped his cap, laughing the whole time.

Hitting looked really good, for batting practice. Lot's of bunting.

Salvy is entertaining. Great day overall. My face is burnt.

Oh and KU was playing Oregon in the game stadium. Lost 3-0.


Sounds like a fun day, were the Royals all smiles in the dugout and all? What was the overall vibe the team gave off eDave and Lew.

eDave 02-28-2016 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 12104663)
Sounds like a fun day, were the Royals all smiles in the dugout and all? What was the overall vibe the team gave off eDave and Lew.

Very relaxed, lots of joking around, but serious with their work if that makes sense. Ned is very involved but light hearted giving guys shit if they messed up or didn't hustle. They are hazing Ventura quite a bit and hardening him up. He seemed to like it. Expecting some maturity this year and hope he opens against the Mets.

Fairplay 02-28-2016 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12104670)
Very relaxed, lots of joking around, but serious with their work if that makes sense. Ned is very involved but light hearted giving guys shit if they messed up or didn't hustle. They are hazing Ventura quite a bit and hardening him up. He seemed to like it. Expecting some maturity this year and hope he opens against the Mets.

Thanks bro you're a good person.

Sure-Oz 02-29-2016 09:40 AM

@JonHeyman: Royals, Salvy Perez are still working on possible extension/reworking of his alltime bad deal (7M/5 yrs, 3 club options)

Fairplay 02-29-2016 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12105066)
@JonHeyman: Royals, Salvy Perez are still working on possible extension/reworking of his alltime bad deal (7M/5 yrs, 3 club options)

It was a decent deal at the time, Perez was an unknown at the time remember.

Some of those rookies with contracts like his remain unknowns, its hit and miss.

Good that the Royals are getting him a better contract though.

Discuss Thrower 02-29-2016 10:33 AM

Someone smarter than me, explain this:


Assuming Salvy can't physically be a catcher for the majority of a regular season, what kind of the expectations are there for how much he can improve as a hitter by DH'ing or playing 1st?

Saul Good 02-29-2016 11:09 AM

If he can't play Catcher, he has no value as far as I'm concerned.

Prison Bitch 02-29-2016 11:55 AM

Hopefully we can renegotiate Infante's awful deal downward. Fingers crossed.

Saul Good 02-29-2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12105349)
Hopefully we can renegotiate Infante's awful deal downward. Fingers crossed.

No chance. Why would he be willing to do that?

Demonpenz 02-29-2016 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12105154)
Someone smarter than me, explain this:


Assuming Salvy can't physically be a catcher for the majority of a regular season, what kind of the expectations are there for how much he can improve as a hitter by DH'ing or playing 1st?

There maybe a small uptick but I wouldn't say much of an uptick. Joe Mauer is what you are looking at. The good thing is that Salvy would just be in the lineup. He is important to the teams chemistry for sure.

Chiefspants 02-29-2016 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 12105431)
No chance. Why would he be willing to do that?

He's making an argument against paying Salvy more.

Saul Good 02-29-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12105445)
He's making an argument against paying Salvy more.

Oh. Hopefully there's value that comes with keeping Sal happy and gaining favor with agents for future negotiations. Pie in the sky, I know...

Chiefs Pantalones 02-29-2016 02:22 PM

I'll be at Wednesday's and Saturday's games. Can't wait.

lewdog 02-29-2016 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12105588)
I'll be at Wednesday's and Saturday's games. Can't wait.

What will you be wearing.............

sedated 02-29-2016 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12105719)
What will you be wearing.............

nothing

<img src="http://imgur.com/NbA1tNH.gif">

ROYC75 02-29-2016 05:11 PM

Sal's mother was robbed in Venezuela
 
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-...her-was-robbed

Appears to be OK.

suzzer99 02-29-2016 05:30 PM

Wonder if they didn't know she was Perez's mom, and if they did they might have kidnapped her. Scary.

Chiefs Pantalones 02-29-2016 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12105719)
What will you be wearing.............

Royals thong. That's it.

eDave 02-29-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12106031)
Royals thong. That's it.

Enjoy the ladies. They won't be wearing much.

Spring Training in AZ is a wonderful season.

lewdog 02-29-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12106031)
Royals thong. That's it.

I'll be there.............




wearing the same thing!!!

eDave 02-29-2016 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12106039)
I'll be there.............




wearing the same thing!!!

How will I know who is who?

lewdog 02-29-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12106042)
How will I know who is who?

I'm hung like a peanut.

Hope that helps.

KChiefs1 02-29-2016 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12105349)
Hopefully we can renegotiate Infante's awful deal downward. Fingers crossed.


Players don't do that.

KChiefs1 02-29-2016 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 12105473)
Oh. Hopefully there's value that comes with keeping Sal happy and gaining favor with agents for future negotiations. Pie in the sky, I know...


Yeah that always happens.

Wilson8 02-29-2016 06:28 PM

Hosmer open to long-term deal with Royals

First baseman remains committed to winning championships in KC

SURPRISE, Ariz. -- Certainly the popular narrative about the Royals this offseason has been that the team has a two-year window for future success, closing after the 2017 season.

That's when several players -- Eric Hosmer, Mike Moustakas, Lorenzo Cain, Wade Davis, Alcides Escobar, etc. -- could become free agents.

And the general consensus is that the hardest free agent to keep will be Hosmer, an immense talent whose career continues to ascend. But Hosmer disputes any notion that he would be the first one out the door after '17.

"It's not like if [general manager] Dayton [Moore] came knocking on my door to talk about [a long-term contract] I would say no. Of course, not," Hosmer told MLB.com. "But also, having just won a championship, it's not like you go making any demands to Dayton, either."

Hosmer also is quick to dismiss the notion that he yearns to take his good looks and talent to a big market such as New York, Chicago or Los Angeles.

"That's just outside perspective," he said. "I don't play this game to be in commercials for hair products. I'm playing to try to win championships. Sure you want to give yourself the best opportunity in terms of financially, but at the same time, you want to give yourself the best chance to get to the playoffs.

"If this group stays together, the best opportunity is right here."

And Moore isn't conceding he won't be able to retain free agents such as Hosmer as well.

"We fully expect to sign as many of our players that we currently have on our team to long-term contracts," Moore said. "We anticipate that happening as we go forward. Will we get them all? Time will tell.

"We've had success keeping our homegrown players. Alex Gordon is a guy we've signed twice now to multiyear deals. We'll do our best to keep as many of our players here."

Hosmer said Kansas City's market size doesn't enter into the equation about where he would like to stay long term.

"You create those opportunities by what you do on the field," Hosmer said. "You look at what Golden State is [in the NBA]. I don't know if that's necessarily a top market, but you got Steph Curry and his team, and they will make everyone remember them for a long time.

"I think we can create that through the way we play. If we make it to another World Series that's three times in a row. We've caught the attention of America and the whole world.

"If you're a true player in this game, your dream is to win and create some history."

While some observers are skeptical that the Royals can keep their core intact, Hosmer isn't among those skeptics.

"Honestly, what is so cool about this organization is that everyone trusts everyone in their role," Hosmer said. "We trust Dayton that he will do the best job he can to keep everyone together. It's out of our control, but we trust Dayton."

Hosmer has seen what it means for someone such as George Brett to play an entire career for one organization, and then still be a part of it when the playing career ends.

"It's everyone's dream to be drafted by one team, play your whole career for that team and have your jersey retired by that team," Hosmer said. "But I'm not going to go out in the media and get myself a [long-term] contract just by talking about it.

"You look at what we've started in Kansas City, it's special. I got drafted by an organization I knew nothing about. It looks like a quick process [the last two years] but the truth is that guys like Salvy [Salvador Perez] and Moose [Moustakas], we've all been together since the low Minors. We feel like we've flipped this organization and that's a credit to Dayton and the front office.

"If it was up to us, we'd like to keep it together as long as we could."

So, if Moore and his staff came calling about a new deal?

"Yeah, you're going to listen," Hosmer said, smiling.

http://m.royals.mlb.com/news/article...al-with-royals

KChiefs1 02-29-2016 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12105975)
Wonder if they didn't know she was Perez's mom, and if they did they might have kidnapped her. Scary.


Can you imagine what Salvy's salary is like in Venezuela? Bill Gates compared to me.

lewdog 02-29-2016 08:03 PM

Hosmer is not dumb enough to say anything bad at this point or anything other then talking about how much he loves KC.

Doesn't mean it's true.

DaneMcCloud 02-29-2016 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12106037)
Enjoy the ladies. They won't be wearing much.

Spring Training in AZ is a wonderful season.

I need to escape for a few days and watch a Spring game.

I have meetings this week but maybe the second week of March?

I can bring an air mattress and pay for Uber.

:D

duncan_idaho 02-29-2016 08:21 PM

*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12105154)
Someone smarter than me, explain this:


Assuming Salvy can't physically be a catcher for the majority of a regular season, what kind of the expectations are there for how much he can improve as a hitter by DH'ing or playing 1st?


I could see someone making a case for his offense looking like it does over the first half, except over a full season.

He's a much more effective offensive player when he is better rested and not beaten down by sitting in the crouch 5 days a week.

lewdog 02-29-2016 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12106221)
I need to escape for a few days and watch a Spring game.

I have meetings this week but maybe the second week of March?

I can bring an air mattress and pay for Uber.

:D

Make the trip and I'll pay YOU, $10 per hour to hangout with me.


Think about it.

DaneMcCloud 02-29-2016 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12106278)
Make the trip and I'll pay YOU, $10 per hour to hangout with me.

Think about it.

LMAO

suzzer99 02-29-2016 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12106214)
Hosmer is not dumb enough to say anything bad at this point or anything other then talking about how much he loves KC.

Doesn't mean it's true.

No but it still keeps my dream alive that Hos/Wade/Cain will pull a LeBron/Wade/Bosch and agree to team friendly deals as long as they know they aren't the only one staying. Esky, Moose and Kendrys are also welcome to join the party assuming they don't drop off.

CaliforniaChief 03-01-2016 10:40 AM

The deal is done.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Salvador Perez’s new deal picks up three team options, adds two years. Starts in 2017, at least $30M in new $. <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman">@JonHeyman</a> said it was close.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/704707101906509824">March 1, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 03-01-2016 10:49 AM

Dayton is my homeboy

CaliforniaChief 03-01-2016 10:50 AM

And here's an article by Passan about it. The Royals will announce it later today. Will be a straight 5 year deal starting next year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source-...182419175.html

alnorth 03-01-2016 10:50 AM

No options, its a straight 5 year deal

alnorth 03-01-2016 11:00 AM

5/52.5

So, we're paying $36MM for the 2 extra years.

Halfcan 03-01-2016 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 12107016)
And here's an article by Passan about it. The Royals will announce it later today. Will be a straight 5 year deal starting next year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source-...182419175.html

:clap: Salvy is the heart of the team. He deserves every penny. Would love to see him get several more World Series MVP's.

Hosmer - you are on the clock!!

Chiefs Pantalones 03-01-2016 11:07 AM

@DBLesky There's no good reason from a baseball perspective to give Perez this deal, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have value. #Royals

alnorth 03-01-2016 11:09 AM

Out of that 52.5MM, $6MM of it is a signing bonus.

suzzer99 03-01-2016 11:09 AM

Prison Bitch will be apoplectic.

alnorth 03-01-2016 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12107046)
:clap: Salvy is the heart of the team. He deserves every penny. Would love to see him get several more World Series MVP's.

Hosmer - you are on the clock!!

Barring a minor miracle, he and Moose are both going to test free agency. They don't have midwest ties like Gordon did, nor were they locked into a very team-friendly deal like Salvy.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2016 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12107017)
No options, its a straight 5 year deal


Sounds like a win-win.

Salvador Perez gets much more security and money up front. Royals get some additional years of control at rates that will still be good as long as he holds up.

Adds some risk for the Royals, but they add control of the final few years of what should be his prime as compensation.

suzzer99 03-01-2016 11:15 AM

Do we get more years of control? I thought they just turn the last 2 club option years into guaranteed years.

CaliforniaChief 03-01-2016 11:16 AM

At the end of the day (or contract), every player's going to want top dollar.

But this was a good way for the Royals to add control and gain a sense of trust. The Gordon/Perez deals will go over very well in the clubhouse.

Again, not saying this gets Hosmer any closer to a deal, but I think it's a good move. Is there a more respected front office inside baseball than ours? I mean, even Scott Boras likes working with us.

CaliforniaChief 03-01-2016 11:17 AM

2 added years of control.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12107069)
Do we get more years of control? I thought they just turn the last 2 club option years into guaranteed years.


Previous team options ran through 2019. This adds two years to the deal.

suzzer99 03-01-2016 11:18 AM

Awesome!

Halfcan 03-01-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12107059)
Barring a minor miracle, he and Moose are both going to test free agency. They don't have midwest ties like Gordon did, nor were they locked into a very team-friendly deal like Salvy.


Mike Moustakas agreed to a two-year, $14.3 million contract with the Kansas City Royals on Thursday to avoid arbitration, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports.

They just gave Moose a big pay raise. If he continues to keep improving- I bet they won't let him go. Same with Hosmer.

These guys are Big fish in a little pond. This is home. They would most likely get more money elsewhere-but would be just another player. Money isn't everything.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12107059)
Barring a minor miracle, he and Moose are both going to test free agency. They don't have midwest ties like Gordon did, nor were they locked into a very team-friendly deal like Salvy.


I've long expected them to leave as free agents, with maybe an outside chance at keeping Moustakas.

Because the team keeps surprising me, I think I have adjusted the likelihood of them staying in KC up a few notches.

Keeping Perez, Hosmer, and Moustakas together for five more years (and incorporating younger players at the positions that require major athleticism - CF and SS) doesn't seem impossible at this point.

Nightfyre 03-01-2016 12:05 PM

Duncan, don't let the recent success fool you! Expectations management is critical to weathering the long droughts KC sports brings.

alnorth 03-01-2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12107122)
Mike Moustakas agreed to a two-year, $14.3 million contract with the Kansas City Royals on Thursday to avoid arbitration, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports.

They just gave Moose a big pay raise. If he continues to keep improving- I bet they won't let him go. Same with Hosmer.

These guys are Big fish in a little pond. This is home. They would most likely get more money elsewhere-but would be just another player. Money isn't everything.

Buying out arbitration years really doesn't mean anything to me re: willingness to sign long-term. Its low risk for the player to add a bit of security for years where he's stuck with the team in case he has a bad year and is staring at an unpleasant arbitration hearing.

Scott Boras believes that even if you want to stay with your team, even if you want to give them a discount, you should still test free agency to find out what you are worth. Then you can go back to your team and say "I found out that I'm actually worth X. I'll give you a discount of Y, but you gotta at least do that much"

frozenchief 03-01-2016 12:20 PM

A bit off topic but Justice Sotomayor referenced the "World Champion Kansas City Royals" in a Supreme Court opinion today:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...-8358_o7jp.pdf

Nice to see the Royals recognized in legal opinions.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 12107176)
Duncan, don't let the recent success fool you! Expectations management is critical to weathering the long droughts KC sports brings.


Not saying I love the chances, but they now seem better than the nearly zero percent chance I previously would have put on it.

Of course, if Hosmer goes 300/30/100/100/.375/.550 this year and next, they dim again.

I like the commitment to the players and to winning that is being displayed.


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