Ubeja was right all along,haha.

You don't have to ignore him completely. Just ask him which RB he wants in the 3rd round instead of the 1st.

18-19 were pretty subpar drafts and now we’re paying for it.

Clyde in the first in 20 hurt too.

Well he wasn't right, he happened to turn out to be right but that's because Taylor's skillset changed.

His fumbling issues are gone and he's catching passes. That's new information that Ubeja didn't have at the time

Most knew that on draft day. :shake:

Patrick didn’t.


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No doubt.


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Apparently the GM, HC, and owner didn’t know it either. All 3 of them signed off on that decision.

What do those guys know? Patrick made the final call.


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I’m glad you are asking that question. Did Mahomes make the call on Frank Clark and other bad moves by Veach?

My issue was his workload was really heavy.

when we win another Super Bowl and I'm the GM I'd ask Patrick who we should draft with our first pick


CEH had a great rookie campaign and everyone loved him then he got hurt and this year he was getting back to excelling but running backs get hurt so that happened again he was and is still a great pick if only he can stay healthy.

He was averaging like a yard or 2 a carry before he got hurt. When the line gives him holes that are 10 feet wide, he's been good. But when it's just normal sized holes, he goes back to being shit.

He kicked ass last year till he got hurt.

This year I think he just hasn't found his groove but he was going get there. I don't know how he will be after this injury I hope it's not major sit back but I expect him get healthy and Excell in this offense. I am still hopeful for him to have great seasons and contribute to winning championships but he does have to stay healthy.

Leg injuries seem to be piling up with this guy. That's 3 in 1 year. Not exactly good for a RB

I don't think he has the build to seek out contact like he has in the NFL. I know he's tough and tough to bring down (at least he was in the start of 2020), but he's not going to last if he keeps meeting LB's head on in the open field.

He had 2 good games. He had 8 games before the injury where he averaged 4 or less yards per carry. That's terrible.

Gore is taking the job and not giving it back.

Terrell Davis II

Meck still will not admit CEH is a JAG. Going to blame his injury despite CEH's 1.9ypc before the injury.

As soon as the holes disappeared so did CEH.

Who cares? Just move on. It's obvious he's a JAG. Some people want to hold out hope that he will actually be something. IMO he won't. He's too small and slow and on top of that he is injury prone. You can't do anything about those who don't see that...Meck knows his stuff. He has his reasons for holding out.

With all due respect to Meck and Raspy, both guys I like very much... I'm not gonna miss Clyde one little bit

Sorry, not sorry

Yes he had a couple 100 yard days this year, but in my VERY honest opinion... he left a shitload of yards on the field, and always does

Some of the gaping maws opened for him are just begging to be exploited for 30-40-50 yards, and he gets 10-15... even the best GMs make mistakes, and this was one for Veach

So much THIS.

Our offensive line is REALLY good.

The interior of our Oline is ****ing elite. Thuney,Humphrey, and Smith are all going to be All-Pro at some point. Our OT's aren't fantastic but they are solid. We should have a dominant running game. Many teams can create a good running game with his 2 good run blockers. We have 3 side-by-side with the other 2 being solid. Defenses are set to stop the pass too.

Why isn't our running game in the Top-3?

Coaching? RB? Both?

Parker says that CEH is Emmitt Smith, but wouldn't Smith would be averaging about 7 yards a carry behind this line?

This is me I don't particularly care for college football and seldom watch till the bowl games and championship. I did read a lot about his wonders from CP. I wasn't wanting to draft an RB I wanted an O-line or linebacker. I had no clue of this guy but what I read and I was swayed. I could see last year he was bad in pass protection and figured he would get better. He seemed to have some power to move a pile but got caught in the backfield a lot. I thought it was the o line. When he couldn't catch the ball out in the flat and we wouldn't run screens I got concerned. This year sealed the deal for me that he will be a jag and probably won't get a second contract. I just got to wonder if everything got screwed with covid in scouting and relied on tape and coaching evaluations from his college coaches. He looks like a guy you take a chance on in late rounds.

Can't make the club from the tub.

*First round running backs dont matter*
*Argues we should have had a different first round running back after ours gets hip and knee injuries*

Do you think those are mutually exclusive or something?

For a team that loves speed - I never understood why this team picked Clive over a handful of other RBs, some of who were available, namely Swift and Taylor.

I wonder if CEH would have been the pick had they known the line would look like this a year later.

Yep. The later rounds like they did with Darwin Thompson. Who was "bigger" and "faster" than CEH. Said it at the time and still can't believe they took CEH in the 1st round with his measurables. Dude is 5' 8" (on a tall day) with little to no break away speed and lacks vision. They were so enamoured with finding the "Next Brian Westbrook" that they completely blew the pick . :shake:

Well that ship sailed.

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If they really let Mahomes make our 1st rd pick, they deserve to get fired.

Mahomes can ask for more help at RB, or WR, he can go to Andy a let him know that a player on our roster really looks good or bad so Andy can adjust. But we don't let Mahomes actually make a ****ing draft pick.

Letting Patrick make a draft pick is dumber than letting Chris Jones change his position on the team.

Both players are paid very handsomely to shut the **** up and win games, not Coach/GM.

No more asking Mahomes who he wants...

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Donko back Javonte Williams dead last?
They had been propping him up as the next Gayle Sayers...

1 whole year ago almost to the day LMAO

ROFL

LMAO

Wrecked

You dumbshits. Show me some GIFs of Clyde running like that this year.

I just don’t think CEH has the body type to invite contact and go at it head on like that in the NFL. Which is a shame, as it was a big reason why he was effective last year.

CEH had great vision and was a fantastic receiver.

I imagine the thinking was that he would be a dual-threat weapon in the KC offense.

The receiver part never took off because he never really has gotten better at pass pro. You don't get to get catches if you can't pass block as a RB well.

That said pre-draft, I thought it was

1.Swift
2.Taylor
3.Dobbins

4.CEH

I really liked CEH. But I don't get why they didn't like Swift or Taylor more.

LMAO he was 7th in rushing before he got hurt. He didn't forget how to play football.

He may no the rules, but yeah his play and lack of athleticism and instincts dictate he isn't a quality NFL RB.

He forgot how to do anything remotely special on the field.

Running through cavernous lanes ain't impressive.

I think big backs are more suited for this offense. We need some toughness in there to counter balance the overload of finesse. Teams are trying to take our itty bitties heads off every play. We need to wear them down with some punishing runs from our plowhorses.

I thought I heard he was supposed to be MJD ish during the draft. Definitely not. Chiefs need to get backs similar to Hunts style

Mahomes didn’t make the pick you ****ing dipshits

Once Clyde gets healed up, he's going to look good again. Nice to develop Daryl and Jerrick(?) in the meantime.

That's why Kareem was so ****ing awesome.

Mahomes, Hill and Kelce would beat you with finesse and then Hunt would come barreling through the middle and absolutely ****ing truck some poor linebacker.

God that Early 2018 offense was a thing of ****ing beauty.

Can't keep a guy like that, though. Gotta cut him loose to a rising conference rival, if you can.

Give this Gore kid a shot and just run the damn thing down their throats. Chiefs have a strong interior OL, one of best in the league even with 2 rookies. CEH can not run between the tackles. Gore and Williams can.

He simply doesn’t look the same this year.

Yes. And when you do, the cool part is all the OUTRAGE, for what he did, magically ceases and the narrative changes into the player is getting a 2nd chance to turn his life around.

I just showed you several posts by YOU bragging about CEH breaking tackles and making multiple cuts LMAO

This is why nobody takes your football takes seriously, you are as fickle as a woman and will change your mind on a whim and then try to talk like you know what you are seeing.

I mean you were obviously either wrong before or wrong now right? Pretty easy to eventually be right when you just randomly switch back and forth on opinions given any 4 game stretch.

You need to stick to gifs and videos.

I didn't see a single pre-draft ranking that had CEH as the top RB. It was a mistake, I hope Veach learns from it. That being said, I still think CEH can be an average-ish starting RB in the NFL. That has value but he gets (perhaps unfairly) criticized because he was taken in the first round and before more talented backs.

The Chiefs could have DK Metcalf & Jonathan Taylor instead of Hardman & CEH.


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He was highly regarded coming out. One thing that seems to be forgotten is with a 1st round pick, you get that 5th year option. So if you can get a great RB for 5 years and then can move on from him when it's time for a big contract, you win. I don't necessarily agree with using one there but with the last pick in the first round you can lock up a key starter on a rookie deal for 5 years, I don't think it was insane. It just hasn't worked out like you'd hope.

I sometimes wonder where CEH would be picked if he was playing in this year's LSU offense rather than that ridiculously talented 2019 offense. Playing alongside Burrow, Jefferson and Chase probably helped him quite a bit.

Gore ****ing sucks.

So do you.

You don't get it.

CEH was GREAT last year as a rookie in several games...and hasn't been the same since.

The most notable thing he has done this year is fumble away two games.

I can't think of a single highlight play he made this year.

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Looks more like Darrel Williams than CEH to me.

Gore showed great vision, decisiveness, physicality and drive when he got the ball tonight. The whole offense was most effective on drives with a balanced attack.

Clyde has the worst vision of the 3 backs.

Nice take

No doubt.

There was that one time, at band camp, where he...

Our line has been opening massive holes, the RB's are now finding them.

I don't think Gore is any better than CEH, they are both JAGS.

Why the fook did we not run more in the 2nd half? We were destroying their line. It make zero damn sense with basically 6.5 guys in the box. Have no idea whats going on between Andy and Eric

Another observation: Patrick hesitates on every throw now and he limped badly after a run out of bounds. I think his toe is still a problem for sure

They started to pile of our 1st down runs.

It was becoming predictable.

Gore has better vision, no doubt.

Certainly, but he's nothing special. He isn't going to create anything that isn't there.

With this run blocking line we don't need anything special. As long as they don't CEH it into the ass of our linemen the running game will be productive.

Chiefs gained 39 yards on 11 carries after Frank Gore's drive.

They are not as good at running the ball as you believe.

For the most part, yes. However, Gore did look good near the goal line, studder & side stepping his way to the hole and then hitting it quickly in route to the end zone. Not sure CEH does that. But, yes, Gore is a JAG himself.

CEH absolutely does not do that.


We are seeing CEH skill level with a guy that has vision in Gore.

If CEH can pull his head out of his ass and just hit holes he will be a fine 3rd RB. Right now he's average as hell, and way below average with his fumbling problem and dogshit pass blocking.

Do you honestly believe that Darrel Williams is better than CEH?

You guys are so frustrated over CEH being a first round pick and not living up to that praise, so far, that you are suggesting players that are clearly worse than he is as being better.

CEH needs to get back to what made him so good in college and being more patient with the run game. He had a tendency when he saw the hole wasnt created where it was suppose to be to just put his head down and bull rush through 300lb men for as many yards as he could get before he got hurt. But he absolutely has the ability to change direction with the best of them, he just needs to trust his ability to make people miss in the open field to make up for his lack of speed to get around the edge.

CEH is still the starting RB of this team. Darrel Williams probably needs to be gone. Williams had 3 games of being the guy and he's had 3, 4, and 3.8 YPC in those games. It took 1 game for Gore to show he can do better.

Darrell is a 3rd string RB at best, too.

I didn't say anything different.

Also, just finding and hitting a hole doesn't make you good.

Why does CEH SUCK at pass blocking, and is a non-factor as a pass receiver?

Saying he is below average is not going out on a limb. It's the truth.

Darrel Williams isnt even a 3rd string back. RBs who run for 3 YPC are playing in semi-pro leagues.

Fine, whatever.

CEH isn't even a 3rd string QB. RB's who can't pass block, have no vision, are slow as **** are playing in semi-pro leagues.

See how this works?

I'm not saying CEH is a semi-pro RB, but he's certainly not even in the atmosphere of starting RB.