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luv 03-22-2009 10:05 PM

It's funny. Football threads turn into basketball threads, and now basketball threads turn into football threads.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-22-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5602952)
Agreed. That's how Bill Snyder turned K-State into a football power. DCS suggests Anderson will start stealing Self's recruits. What a dunce he is.

I don't know shit about satellite dishes either crank-ass, but feel free to use your ****ing Harvard PHD in trailer trash to hip me to the nuances!

petegz28 03-22-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 5602954)
The officiating was pretty one sided. Up until the last minute of the game, Marquette had 33 FT attempts and Mizzou had 16 yet all you could hear at the end of the game was a bunch of booing by Marquette fans because the 35 second shot clock rule was enforced and the refs caught their guy stepping on the inbounds line with the ball.

And the refs did call MU for a bullshit foul there late as well. They tried to get Marquette back in it but they actually missed one of their FT's.

Having said that, there were multiple non-calls on Marquette, like when Lawrence was under the basket and went up for the shot and 2 guys from Marquette mugged him and the ball went out of bounds and they called it to Marquette. A couple obvious travels were not called, a non-call on a charge, and then the quickess in which the whistle blew against MU. Aside from the foul on what should have been a jump ball, there was a break away where the Marquetee guy tripped over his own feet and they called us for a foul cause he slid, the whistle blew before he left his feet and yet it was a shooting foul. Complete bullshit.

I am not sure what the over\under or the line was on the game but it sure looked like the refs had an interest. And we know for a fact refs have had a vested interest in the past and this was the perfect type of game to try an pass that shit off.

Skip Towne 03-22-2009 10:10 PM

As that fat UNLV coach once said "Recruiting BB recruits to KU is like recruiting drunks to a New Years Eve Party"

DeezNutz 03-22-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5602972)
And the refs did call MU for a bullshit foul there late as well. They tried to get Marquette back in it but they actually missed one of their FT's.

Having said that, there were multiple non-calls on Marquette, like when Lawrence was under the basket and went up for the shot and 2 guys from Marquette mugged him and the ball went out of bounds and they called it to Marquette. A couple obvious travels were not called, a non-call on a charge, and then the quickess in which the whistle blew against MU. Aside from the foul on what should have been a jump ball, there was a break away where the Marquetee guy tripped over his own feet and they called us for a foul cause he slid, the whistle blew before he left his feet and yet it was a shooting foul. Complete bullshit.

I am not sure what the over\under or the line was on the game but it sure looked like the refs had an interest. And we know for a fact refs have had a vested interest in the past and this was the perfect type of game to try an pass that shit off.

This is the bullshit that gets old, though. The refs sucked shit. Just stop there. They weren't trying to "get Marq back into" anything.

The line was Mizzou -4. I'm sure Marq fans are arguing the exact same thing, that calls happened at the end so that Mizzou would cover.

petegz28 03-22-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5602985)
This is the bullshit that gets old, though. The refs sucked shit. Just stop there. They weren't trying to "get Marq back into" anything.

The line was Mizzou -4. I'm sure Marq fans are arguing the exact same thing, that calls happened at the end so that Mizzou would cover.

You can say that all you want, but I think the majority of those on here who watched the game would agree with me on this game.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-22-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5602696)
Frazod, a question of intellectual honesty if you will:

Do you believe it is possible that Anderson could begin to out-snag Self in terms of collecting the most sought after talent?

Not necessarily immediately, but over a period of say, two to three years? I believe it's very possible.

Back in August, no one here believed that MU would accomplish what they've accomplished, and yet here we are.

Now you tell ME who Sporting News Coach of the Year should be.

No.

Most truly top level recruits do not want to play the kind of basketball that Anderson preaches. They don't want to play in a motion offense. They want to slackass on defense, get fed the ball every possession, isolate and drive, or shoot jumpers.

Think about Nolan Richardson's Arkansas teams. Who was the best player to ever come from there? Todd Day? Corliss Williamson? Oliver Miller's fatass? None of those guys were transcendental athletes by any stretch of the imagination.

Missouri will never out-recruit Self at KU. We'll never even have the level of talent that we had with Quin's first few classes, or Norm's better ones. But we will have teams that play much better as a team.

DeezNutz 03-22-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5602994)
You can say that all you want, but I think the majority of those on here who watched the game would agree with me on this game.

That the refs sucked total balls? Absolutely.

But saying that they were purposely trying to alter the outcome of the game *for another team* calls for the tin hats.

You didn't address my point about the line (-4). This obviates your assertion.

Skip Towne 03-22-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5602985)
This is the bullshit that gets old, though. The refs sucked shit. Just stop there. They weren't trying to "get Marq back into" anything.

The line was Mizzou -4. I'm sure Marq fans are arguing the exact same thing, that calls happened at the end so that Mizzou would cover.

Exactly right. In the first half Carroll obviously pushed a Marquette player in the back to prevent a layup. Nothing was called and the MU fans didn't mention it. But the announcers did. The refs don't see every foul. Bad calls go both ways but they are rarely the reason you pissed away a 16 point lead. Good teams overcome bad calls.

DeezNutz 03-22-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5603006)
Exactly right. In the first half Carroll obviously pushed a Marquette player in the back to prevent a layup. Nothing was called and the MU fans didn't mention it. But the announcers did. The refs don't see every foul. Bad calls go both ways but they are rarely the reason you pissed away a 16 point lead. Good teams overcome bad calls.

I remember that play now that you mention it. Good example.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-22-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5602838)
Self is the top coach in the country, no question.

Outside of the top 5 (UNC, KU, UCLA, etc.), I'd say a great model that all other programs should aspire to would be Memphis. This is a program driven by having a top-tier coach. When JP leaves, I'm guessing they will regress substantially.

Calipari is the best coach in the country, IMO, followed quickly by Pitino.

petegz28 03-22-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5603002)
That the refs sucked total balls? Absolutely.

But saying that they were purposely trying to alter the outcome of the game *for another team* is a level calls for the tin hats.

You didn't address my point about the line. This obviates your assertion.

Your had no point about the line. And you can say whatever you wish about my speculation. Based on the lopsidedness of the calls, particularly after MU jumped out to a lead would make one question. I never said they DID try to alter the outcome. I said it sure smelled like it and refs have done it in the past.

petegz28 03-22-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5603010)
I remember that play now that you mention it. Good example.

Actually I think several of us, myself included said Carroll was lucky he didn't get called.

DeezNutz 03-22-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5603014)
Your had no point about the line. And you can say whatever you wish about my speculation. Based on the lopsidedness of the calls, particularly after MU jumped out to a lead would make one question. I never said they DID try to alter the outcome. I said it sure smelled like it and refs have done it in the past.

No point? Yeah, stepping over the the line on the inbounds play gave Mizzou a chance to cover.

petegz28 03-22-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5603006)
Exactly right. In the first half Carroll obviously pushed a Marquette player in the back to prevent a layup. Nothing was called and the MU fans didn't mention it. But the announcers did. The refs don't see every foul. Bad calls go both ways but they are rarely the reason you pissed away a 16 point lead. Good teams overcome bad calls.

Yes we did mention it. Nice try, Skippy.


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