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Donger 03-12-2011 04:30 PM

Now there's another reactor that has lost emergency cooling at the same plant.

alnorth 03-12-2011 05:31 PM

Kinda wild, they had electric power to the cooling system, a backup system in case the power failed, and a backup to the backup in case the backup system failed. The earthquake killed the power, the tsunami killed the backup, and now for 3 reactors, the backup to the backup is apparently not working as intended.

They may eventually resort to just hoping that the 8-foot concrete walls will hold long enough for the nuclear reaction to finally come to an end after the fuel melts out of the reactor, thus containing almost everything that they did not intentionally vent. If that happens, it will be a three mile island incident instead of a disaster.

The good news is that a lot of very brilliant people will study what happened here, learn what they did wrong when they assumed this was a earthquake-proof tsunami-proof system, and better reactors will be designed from what we learn about this.

alnorth 03-12-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7485422)
Glad to hear it, Warrior.

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I find this peculiar.

http://www.icjt.org/npp/podrobnosti....4&lokacija=818


Connected plants
Name: FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI-1
Type BWR
Power Thermal 439 MWh
Last known 439 MWh
Dates Operating 17 Nov 70
Commercial 26 Mar 71
Shutdown 26 Mar 11
Operating years 32

That nuclear plant was scheduled to shut down this month.

heh, if it was scheduled to be shut down soon, then human nature being what is it, I wouldn't be surprised if we discover that everyone started getting lazy and slacked off on maintaining the backup power supplies. Why bother if everything is coming down soon anyway? Not like we'll have the biggest earthquake and tsunami in the nation's history within those next few months! I'd expect a lot of ritual suicides from some nuclear engineers.

Donger 03-12-2011 09:09 PM

Sounds like the Japanese are acknowledging that at least a partial melt occurred/is occurring in reactor 1. And, reactor 3 is facing the same.

Rams Fan 03-12-2011 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7486257)
Sounds like the Japanese are acknowledging that at least a partial melt occurred/is occurring in reactor 1. And, reactor 3 is facing the same.

The meltdown isn't the biggest worry, correct? It's the matter escaping the containment dome?

Donger 03-12-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7486267)
The meltdown isn't the biggest worry, correct? It's the matter escaping the containment dome?

That would be worse, yes.

Rams Fan 03-12-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Shirakawa, Japan (CNN) -- Japanese authorities are operating on the presumption that possible meltdowns are under way at two nuclear reactors, a government official said Sunday, adding that there have been no indications yet of hazardous emissions of radioactive material into the atmosphere.
More in the link: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/as...ake/index.html

****

tk13 03-12-2011 09:39 PM

Doesn't look good. But it seems like they've struggled to control the situation from the beginning.

alnorth 03-12-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7486283)

well, better them than us. Even in California, we only have to deal with one major fault. The island of Japan is in the middle of the horrifying dreaded "ring of fire" with 3 major active continental faults.

Even if Japan goes total Chernobyl with thousands exposed to high radiation, we'll learn a lot from their mistakes and design even safer reactors from this valuable experience. This should not discourage us ***at all*** from nuking up the entire United States, except maybe near the west coast and near the new madrid fault close to St. Louis.

Japan is a crappy place to build a nuclear reactor, but there are lots and lots of tectonically stable places far from any ocean in the US where nuclear reactors would be absolutely perfect and ideal.

rrl308 03-13-2011 01:28 AM

Tsunami from almost ground level.

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teedubya 03-13-2011 03:20 AM

Amazing use of Google Earth - Before and After images of the area hardest hit by the devastation of the Earthquake/Tsunami. Mother Nature was in beast mode. Unreal.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/ja...eforeafter.htm

MoreLemonPledge 03-13-2011 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7486708)
Amazing use of Google Earth - Before and After images of the area hardest hit by the devastation of the Earthquake/Tsunami. Mother Nature was in beast mode. Unreal.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/ja...eforeafter.htm

Incredible.

CrazyPhuD 03-13-2011 06:07 AM

Now if only we could get the Phelps clan to protest outside the plants with 'God hates Japan' signs.

Bowser 03-13-2011 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrl308 (Post 7486631)
Tsunami from almost ground level.

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Insane

BigMeatballDave 03-13-2011 06:19 PM

Here's something for teedubya to freak out over :) My son posted this on Facebook...
Quote:

USA lost many lives on 9-11-01 and now Japan has lost more lives on 3-10-11. Add the 2 dates together and you get 12-21-12. If you still don't believe me........September, 11th = World Trade Center Crash, January, 11th = Haiti Earthquake, March, 11th = Japan Earthquake ,12/21/2012 When the world will end -> 1 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 2 + 0 + 1 + 2 = 11.....I THINK SOMEONE IS TRYING TO TELL US SOMETHING


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