I'll bet you my sig and a night with your sister that we finish over 500

Exactly, but drafting a second or third round caliber QB in round 1 does not suddenly guarantee success. The first round QBs who succeed usually come with first round grades. Russell Wilson would have been at least a top 10 pick had he been 2-3 inches taller. He had every quality you want in a franchise QB except height apparently.

There is no such thing as a "Sure Thing" in the NFL draft, especially in the second round.

Every move that is made is a risk. There is absolutely no doubt that it was a risky move to trade for Alex Smith but it would have been even riskier to reach on a QB that has very little chance to even play at the same level as Smith the past two seasons, let alone become a Franchise QB.

I'm still trying to figure out why anybody thought that either Cousins or Stanzi was worth a shit going into that draft.

His sister doesn't sleep with guys that have a robot heart

I didn't say anything about drafting a quarterback.

I'm having a really hard time even fathoming your perspective right now.

Drafts happen before players play NFL games, so we're forced to ascertain "value" before the latter happens.

Barkley was value. I don't give a flying **** how he performs. These are separate issues, and you know this. What the hell is going on?

I know you didn't ask me, but I expect a team that will be in contention for either AFC West champions or AFC Wild Card all season long. 2010, the bulk of this team was in the playoffs. 2011 they damn near made it without Charles and Berry the whole season... with Palko at the helm for part of the season. Succop makes a FG against the Faid, and the 2011 team is in. 2012 could have been the season, but Pioli saddled the team with his boy Gus. IMO, that is the sole reason for the 2-14 debacle. Haley wanted him gone... instead Haley got gone. RAC wanted Orton. Pioli would have none of it. RAC tried to change his stripes and say he backed Gus, but the players that were here knew better. Winston went to bat for Gus. Nobody else did. And I'm not just talking the injury thing.

Enter new regime and Smith. The players are already saying the chemistry is great. Bowe and Charles are talking career years. Things are looking up.

I'm expecting playoff contention all year long. Maybe even a playoff run. Stranger things have happened.

Indeed, sir... indeed.

I don't necessarily think height was the ONLY reason, but it was one of the few.

I want to see him do it longer before I crown him, but for what he is as a Qb he's in the perfect situation.

Situation is something that doesn't get talked about much on here, but it's a huge factor IMO. Kaep, Wilson, Cousins etc, all were drafted into the right situation.

I don't think it would have mattered who we would have taken the past 4 years, they weren't succeeding here.

I still think Cousins is worth a shit. Stanzi I don't know dick about but Cousins, to me looked good, and when he played at the next level did something.

This is also under the tyranny that was the Pioli regime. Things have changed. Hell Haley got fired for saying F you to Pioli by playing Palko.

It's a pig heart so....

Proudly displaying badgirl's quotation is far more important than anything the Chiefs could possibly do.

FTR Dane it's a moral dilemma every time I eat bacon, but in the end....Bacon always wins.