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Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289576)

DaneMcCloud

01-01-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11234736)

A little late, but let me just pop in and say that Carl and Herm did Trent dirty not bringing him back in '07. Carl went cheap ass to get LJ signed and Herm should have never ****ed with the offense. That is all.

Trent was 0-6 after the trade. At least Carl negotiated a draft pick for him, which led to drafting Brandon Albert via Detroit and Minnesota in the Jared Allen deal.

Hoopsdoc

01-01-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11234681)

Thanks for the debate. I agree with most of your points. Good luck to your Colts on Sunday.

Thanks and good luck to the Chiefs.

We may get by Cincy but no further than that.

BossChief

01-01-2015 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11234320)

I think we probably would have won 10-11 games with Andrew Luck this year

It's funny that Clay is referencing Andrew Luck like he actually watched him this year, though. Because clearly he didn't.

We would probably be the afc Super Bowl favorite with Luck at QB.

Jmo

Bowser

01-01-2015 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11234824)

Trent was 0-6 after the trade. At least Carl negotiated a draft pick for him, which led to drafting Brandon Albert via Detroit and Minnesota in the Jared Allen deal.

I don't remember Detroit being involved with the Allen trade. I thought his 1st and 3rd picks from Minny alone brought us Albert and Jamaal?

And yeah, Trent was not even close to the guy he was here in Miami. He was in the perfect system with the perfect players around him with the Chiefs. I still don't understand what Herm was thinking when he changed up the offense with Solari. Hell, he even said he wasn't changing anything when he came here in his press conference, lol.

Baby Lee

01-01-2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11234846)

We would probably be the afc Super Bowl favorite with Luck at QB.

Jmo

If we're just rampantly speculating, there's no way Kelce gets called for a fumble in the Ariz game is the pass had come from Luck.

No was Vonn Miller tattoos the bridge of his helmet on the shoulder blades of a Luck jersey without repercussion either.

Not sure that's a job skill I'd necessarily hang my hat on, but every little bit helps.

DaneMcCloud

01-01-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11234849)

I don't remember Detroit being involved with the Allen trade. I thought his 1st and 3rd picks from Minny alone brought us Albert and Jamaal?

Yeah, Detroit was involved with a deal with Minnesota which affected which picks we ultimately received through Minnesota (and Detroit).

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11234849)

And yeah, Trent was not even close to the guy he was here in Miami. He was in the perfect system with the perfect players around him with the Chiefs. I still don't understand what Herm was thinking when he changed up the offense with Solari. Hell, he even said he wasn't changing anything when he came here in his press conference, lol.

Because Herm?

If anything, it was a sad way for a guy like Trent Green to go out in Kansas City. I think he was probably the most liked QB since Len Dawson and his send off was quite unceremonious.

Bowser

01-01-2015 03:58 PM

Agreed. You could argue that Trent has been the second best quarterback to ever throw a pass for the Chiefs. Like I said, Carl did him (at least a bit) dirty.

BossChief

01-01-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11234849)

Iirc we moved up a spot or 2 with them to draft Albert.

I think the pick we used to do so was the one we got from the Trent Green trade.

BigMeatballDave

01-04-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11232128)

That's just hilarious to me.

See

On one franchise, the QB is the "singular driving force." Nevermind all of the errors he makes, or all of the receivers he misses (I saw Luck miss a wide open Reggie Wayne streaking down the sideline for a 70 yard TD that was every bit as bad of a miss as the Smith / Wilson miss).

All anyone says is, "Luck has to do it himself! His line doesn't block! His defense is terrible!"

Bull
****ing
Shit

You can't use excuses for one QB because his name is Andrew Luck and then turn around and consider those same excuses invalid for another QB because his name is Alex Smith, and it's counterproductive to your argument.

It's ridiculous.

LMAO You should get help for your crack addiction.

This is the only explanation for your perspective on Luck.

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