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duncan_idaho 01-25-2023 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16762849)
Just a reminder that Mahomes... just from the pocket... would still be the favorite to win the MVP this season.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Since everyone is talking about how Patrick Mahomes will be limited to staying in the pocket this week, I’ll go ahead and provide his numbers from the pocket this season: <br><br>71 comp% <br>4,598 yards <br>34 TDs <br>9 INTs <br>8.3 YPA <br>110 QB Rating <a href="https://t.co/UHJWandMB6">pic.twitter.com/UHJWandMB6</a></p>&mdash; 🗣🎙‼️ (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1617936935154245639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The Chiefs' two best and most complete games offensively, by far, this season, came against the Bucs and 49ers and featured plans where the Chiefs were clearly accounting for pressure in their game plan and focused on getting the ball out quick, being balanced, and relying on something other than "Well, if it goes bad, Patrick will run around and make magic happen."

Personally, I'm excited to see what the plans look like for that.

RunKC 01-25-2023 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16762777)
Mahomes isn't escaping this type of pressure with a high ankle sprain.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On the bright side, we can be happy that Orlando Brown Jr hired an idiot, otherwise we’d be angry thinking about having him for 4+ years at $20+M a year every time we saw him do this <a href="https://t.co/MQaaCoVOFJ">pic.twitter.com/MQaaCoVOFJ</a></p>&mdash; RHH &amp; BTB Keas (@YaBoiKeas) <a href="https://twitter.com/YaBoiKeas/status/1599844908051075072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Check. It. Down.


They are clearly trying to take away Kelce in the middle of the field. Get McKinnon the ball in space and he’s beating 1v1 most of the time.

Stretch them out. Make them go sideline to sideline.

Kman34 01-25-2023 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16762777)
Mahomes isn't escaping this type of pressure with a high ankle sprain.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On the bright side, we can be happy that Orlando Brown Jr hired an idiot, otherwise we’d be angry thinking about having him for 4+ years at $20+M a year every time we saw him do this <a href="https://t.co/MQaaCoVOFJ">pic.twitter.com/MQaaCoVOFJ</a></p>&mdash; RHH &amp; BTB Keas (@YaBoiKeas) <a href="https://twitter.com/YaBoiKeas/status/1599844908051075072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Calm down… There will be chips and max protections… The ball is coming out quick..

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2023 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16762876)
Check. It. Down.


They are clearly trying to take away Kelce in the middle of the field. Get McKinnon the ball in space and he’s beating 1v1 most of the time.

Stretch them out. Make them go sideline to sideline.
When is he supposed to check it down? When Hendrickson is in position to bat the ball or strip the ball? Mahomes took the best move available and rushed as fast as he could up the pocket to mitigate Hendrickson being behind him.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2023 10:35 AM
Hell, you can even see it in the video. If Mahomes goes to throw when McKinnon turns his head Hendrickson's hand is swiping at where Mahomes would be making the arm motion to pass it to him. Strip sack. Game over.

KC_Lee 01-25-2023 10:36 AM
Looks like he's moving around just fine.

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duncan_idaho 01-25-2023 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16762885)
When is he supposed to check it down? When Hendrickson is in position to bat the ball or strip the ball? Mahomes took the best move available and rushed as fast as he could up the pocket to mitigate Hendrickson being behind him.
When Hendrickson is engaged.

Mahomes had the time and space to get the ball out without Hendrickson affecting it.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-25-2023 10:38 AM
Nice! Again, no boot...

wachashi 01-25-2023 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16762818)
I don't care what the betting public is doing. The betting public is bad at betting, or books wouldn't stay in business.

What matters is where the "shark" money is going. That can be indicative of something unseen, especially when it is operating opposite of the betting public movement.
True statement. Plus, it's a common myth that Vegas creates odds/spreads/lines based on how they believe the public will bet. That's not true.

The opening odds are the oddsmakers' best guesses as to how the game will play out based on the information they have at the time (including injuries, weather, historical performance, home/away, etc). Lines move after that based partly on money coming in, but it includes other factors.

The fact that the Chiefs STILL opened as the favorite vs the Bengals - and those odds factored in Mahomes' injury - says a lot about the talent on this team and about how well Mahomes played through the injury vs the Jaguars. He led a touchdown drive in a critical moment on a bum ankle.

crispystl 01-25-2023 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16762902)
When Hendrickson is engaged.

Mahomes had the time and space to get the ball out without Hendrickson affecting it.
Plus it's freaking Patrick Mahomes. Ya know....the guy that once converted a 3rd down on the run left-handed while being wrapped up by Von Miller.

Marcellus 01-25-2023 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16762691)
Right now, the public is betting on the Bengals because they look unstoppable and Mahomes has an injury. It's Wednesday. Wait and see what the line does closer to game time.
The idea Cincy looks unstoppable is hyperbole at its best. They almost lost to Tyler Huntley at home and beat a Buffalo team in a snowstorm that's been in a spiral for a long while.

Chiefnj2 01-25-2023 10:46 AM
From PFF earlier this week:

Patrick Mahomes Dropback Splits
Overall Grade Rank* Passing Grade Rank*
Straight Drops Wks 1-12 90.3 2nd 87.4 2nd
Straight Drops Wks 13-18 72.6 17th 71.0 16th
Rolls/Scrambles Wks 1-12 86.2 1st 77.9 1st
Rolls/Scrambles Wks 13-18 88.3 2nd 85.6 2nd
*Among passers with at least 25 such dropbacks in each timeframe

The magic clearly hasn’t waned, but something is amiss from the pocket. One might ask why Week 13 was so arbitrarily used as the cutoff in the above table. The answer? That's when Kansas City faced its upcoming conference championship opponent, the Cincinnati Bengals.

Since then, Mahomes has been very ordinary when dropping straight back and throwing from the pocket. The Chiefs' approach appears to have become far more conservative, too. There are struggles at wide receiver, as well as a declining amount of man coverage being played against Kansas City since that Bengals game.

If recent trends hold, there will be many nervous onlookers waiting to see if Mahomes’ injury hampers his seemingly unstoppable improvisational skills. If that is the case, then we will see a battle of two quarterbacks dueling from the pocket. The difference between them? Mahomes has struggled of late from there, while Joe Burrow is currently the best pocket passer the league has to offer.

T-post Tom 01-25-2023 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 16762898)
Looks like he's moving around just fine.

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Nice post. Great to see an ambulatory Mahomes. He looks like he might be pissed. Maybe he's just hyperfocused on dismantling the 'Gals. :D

htismaqe 01-25-2023 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16762916)
The idea Cincy looks unstoppable is hyperbole at its best. They almost lost to Tyler Huntley at home and beat a Buffalo team in a snowstorm that's been in a spiral for a long while.
Oh I don't disagree. But the majority of fans don't believe it. They truly think the Bengals are going to trounce the Chiefs.

Danguardace 01-25-2023 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16762916)
The idea Cincy looks unstoppable is hyperbole at its best. They almost lost to Tyler Huntley at home and beat a Buffalo team in a snowstorm that's been in a spiral for a long while.
Buffalo's Defense n the post season vs competent to good qb play has been extremely torchable. Public going to get suckered into this one.


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