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BigMeatballDave 02-20-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444192)
Sure. It's hard to completely remove that kind of programming. It is what it is.



Big time.

Okay, so it's not so much the marijuana as it is the image of smoking.

That is a legit reason for turn off.

Hammock Parties 02-20-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 10444199)
.I was curious why it was a deal breaker

It's a gut reaction, an innate thing. It's like seeing a girl you've been dating blowing a 400 pound hobo in an alley.

That sum it up?

Hammock Parties 02-20-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10444203)
Okay, so it's not so much the marijuana as it is the image of smoking.

That is a legit reason for turn off.

It's everything. The image, the way her eyes look, her body language, the potential for her behavior to change. Just nothing positive about it.

LoneWolf 02-20-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444192)
Big time.

I make no judgements. Everyone's allowed to have their own personal preferences in what they look for in a partner.

BigMeatballDave 02-20-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 10444189)
Because it's illegal? Regardless of your personal feelings on the subject, the legality of the two is a notable difference, and could very reasonably be an issue someone doesn't want to deal with.

If someone doesn't want to date someone who smokes weed, or drinks, or whatever else, what does it matter? Everyone has their criteria for dating...

It's annoying to me that Alcohol is glorified and Marijuana is vilified.

Cephalic Trauma 02-20-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444206)
It's a gut reaction, an innate thing. It's like seeing a girl you've been dating blowing a 400 pound hobo in an alley.

That sum it up?

Why don't you just suck it up and start dating stoners?

Hammock Parties 02-20-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10444209)
I make no judgements. Everyone's allowed to have their own personal preferences in what they look for in a partner.

Thank you. I don't feel that I'm being unreasonable.

Perineum Ripper 02-20-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444206)
It's a gut reaction, an innate thing. It's like seeing a girl you've been dating blowing a 400 pound hobo in an alley.

That sum it up?

That works and can leave you with a mental image to walk away with

BigMeatballDave 02-20-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444208)
It's everything. The image, the way her eyes look, her body language, the potential for her behavior to change. Just nothing positive about it.

These also occur with alcohol use.

And to a greater extent with behavior change.

BigMeatballDave 02-20-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444215)
Thank you. I don't feel that I'm being unreasonable.

You're not.

I was bored.

:)

Hammock Parties 02-20-2014 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10444221)
You're not.

I was bored.

:)

Just go ahead and tell me I need to date a girl who looks like Matt Cassel, smokes pot and loves Dexter McCluster.

LoneWolf 02-20-2014 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444231)
Just go ahead and tell me I need to date a girl who looks like Matt Cassel, smokes pot and loves Dexter McCluster.

Women like that only exist in our dreams.

Cephalic Trauma 02-20-2014 09:39 PM

I'm pretty sure weed cures everything, so the girls you would potentially date would be extremely healthy.

tk13 02-20-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444215)
Thank you. I don't feel that I'm being unreasonable.

If that's what you want that's what you should be looking for. Unless it's some stupid superficial thing, you shouldn't really have to answer to anyone. People make lifestyle choices and you should find someone that fits yours.

ThaVirus 02-20-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10444117)
I love the people who use the "it's natural, so it's not a drug" argument. Natural things can be pharmacologically active and extremely toxic.

And, I'll just place this right here:

http://adai.uw.edu/marijuana/factshe...oryeffects.htm

Now, I don't care if you use or not, because that's your prerogative, but marijuana is not an innocuous substance.

I'm not a weedologist or anything but it seems like the ill effects of marijuana come from the smoke, not the plant itself.

The only negative thing that article had to say about ingesting it is that it takes longer for the effects to take hold and; therefore, it's easier to overdose. I've literally never heard of a single case of marijuana overdose in my life.

ThaVirus 02-20-2014 10:12 PM

Smoking cigs is an absolute deal breaker for me. As are most pills, coke, meth, crack, heroin, etc.

I could deal with weed and ecstasy/Molly, alcohol in moderation.

Katipan 02-20-2014 10:28 PM

I couldn't date a smoker ever again. Too much of what's left of their lives revolve around the logistics of smoking. Couldn't date an alcoholic again. Heh, same problem. Far too much history with men that pop pills, so there's no getting around that vice. Coke? Heroin? E? I'm an old lady with kids. I don't have the energy for that shit.

It's peaceful cruise from here on out.

Cephalic Trauma 02-20-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10444290)
I'm not a weedologist or anything but it seems like the ill effects of marijuana come from the smoke, not the plant itself.

The only negative thing that article had to say about ingesting it is that it takes longer for the effects to take hold and; therefore, it's easier to overdose. I've literally never heard of a single case of marijuana overdose in my life.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to imply that ingestion would have any of the same effects. I was trying to make the point that people have this false sense of security in inhaling or ingesting anything natural, while these synthetic drugs (engineered to mimic endogenous substances) are somehow way worse because they aren't natural.

Hammock Parties 02-20-2014 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 10444333)
I'm an old lady with kids.

Kids are also a deal breaker. Sorry, babe.

Cephalic Trauma 02-20-2014 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444355)
Kids are also a deal breaker. Sorry, babe.

NSFW


Katipan 02-20-2014 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444355)
Kids are also a deal breaker. Sorry, babe.

Eh, they'll be out of the house in a few years. I can quit pot for a minute.

No.

No, that's a horrible idea.

ghak99 02-20-2014 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10444363)

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Hammock Parties 02-20-2014 10:54 PM

It's like continuing from someone else's saved game.

Hammock Parties 02-20-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 10444366)
Eh, they'll be out of the house in a few years. I can quit pot for a minute.

If I ever get some MILF wanderlust I'll hit you up.

Katipan 02-20-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10444363)

I installed a zipper with the first kid.

Saccopoo 02-20-2014 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10444298)
Smoking cigs is an absolute deal breaker for me. As are most pills, coke, meth, crack, heroin, etc.

I could deal with weed and ecstasy/Molly, alcohol in moderation.

Funny...

I find the taste of cigarettes on a woman's mouth highly arousing.

Maybe it's because I've never smoked myself. I dunno...

Discuss Thrower 02-20-2014 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10444368)
It's like continuing from someone else's saved game.

All this saying does is cast dudes who don't want to be attached to some one else's kids in a negative light.

Katipan 02-20-2014 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10444410)
All this saying does is cast dudes who don't want to be attached to some one else's kids in a negative light.

Oh it was funny. There's no shame in shying away from a step daddy role. It's a different kind of challenge and should only be done by the people that really want it. Anything less the kids can smell.

ThaVirus 02-20-2014 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10444382)
Funny...

I find the taste of cigarettes on a woman's mouth highly arousing.

Maybe it's because I've never smoked myself. I dunno...

That's weird, dude.

You're weird.

ghak99 02-20-2014 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10444382)
Funny...

I find the taste of cigarettes on a woman's mouth highly arousing.

Maybe it's because I've never smoked myself. I dunno...

This is the first time I've ever heard this. I've never smoked tobacco and have always found the taste utterly disgusting. Even the faint smell on the clothes and house is a huge turn off anymore.

Discuss Thrower 02-20-2014 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 10444420)
Oh it was funny. There's no shame in shying away from a step daddy role. It's a different kind of challenge and should only be done by the people that really want it. Anything less the kids can smell.

I'm not talking specifically of Wendler tahere. I've noticed that that line has appeared on a handful of Reddit threads over the last few days. I'm calling my shot before someone starts to whiteknight the idea that you're a prick if you don't want to deal with your paramour's existing children.

Discuss Thrower 02-20-2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10444382)
Funny...

I find the taste of cigarettes on a woman's mouth highly arousing.

Maybe it's because I've never smoked myself. I dunno...

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Saccopoo 02-21-2014 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 10444432)
This is the first time I've ever heard this. I've never smoked tobacco and have always found the taste utterly disgusting. Even the faint smell on the clothes and house is a huge turn off anymore.

I guess it's kind of like tattoos. I don't have any, loathe them actually, really don't like them on women, but if they have one that has yellow in it, it drives me crazy.

AussieChiefsFan 02-21-2014 01:56 AM

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Hammock Parties 02-21-2014 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 10444514)

http://i.imgur.com/EKHY27a.gif

Discuss Thrower 02-21-2014 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 10444514)

So you found some sheila going through moral bankruptcy protection and you schtupped her, huh Aussie?

Also, you just posted a gif with an obscenity which is a bypassing of the filter so BAN HIS ASS

Pasta Little Brioni 02-21-2014 09:33 AM

Someone got some Aussie poon

Pasta Little Brioni 02-21-2014 04:41 PM

Anyone ever read the pe gym or try their excercises? ROFL

ThaVirus 02-21-2014 09:50 PM

I wouldn't mind having a bigger dick. I'm talking 8 inches of coke can girth.

Would probably make getting head a no go but the reaction when you whip that log out would be hilarious.

Buzz 02-21-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10446168)
I wouldn't mind having a bigger dick. I'm talking 8 inches of coke can girth.

Would probably make getting head a no go but the reaction when you whip that log out would be hilarious.

Did you try keggle exercises?

Pasta Little Brioni 02-21-2014 10:06 PM

Kegles work. Stretching your dick seems kind of creepy though. These guys are shooting for that coke can look Virus mentions. The shock and awe look.

Buzz 02-21-2014 10:29 PM

curling 50 pound dumbbell's, my junk is bigger than my forearms.

Bowser 02-21-2014 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10446168)
I wouldn't mind having a bigger dick. I'm talking 8 inches of coke can girth.

Would probably make getting head a no go but the reaction when you whip that log out would be hilarious.

Then your girl would just cheat on you with some guy that she could actually handle without feeling like her soul is going to be ripped in half?

ThaVirus 02-21-2014 10:44 PM

I've never done kegels and I was just kidding about having a dick that big. That would just be ridiculous LMAO My dick is big enough to do some work and any bitch that doesn't think so can kick rocks.

I boned this fat chick after the club one time. She had been begging for the D for a while but I was like nahhhhhhhh, you're fat. I was hella drunk leaving the club, struck out with a couple late night booty call attempts and got desperate.

So I texted this chick and threw up the Hail Mary. She was probably pushing a deuce fitty so of course she caught it. I roll through and get to helping this bitch burn some calories but just couldn't keep my lil partna in the game. I ended up going through two or three condoms that night because I kept going soft (which was probably a combo of whiskey dick and this chick being a behemoth). I roll over, drunk as hell so you know I didn't give a damn that I just failed to perform and she's like "welllll, you know, I'm on birth control so you don't have to wear a condom....." NEGATIVE, GHOST RIDER. Bitch tried to catch me slippin!

Anyway, I passed out shortly thereafter and woke up the next morning to her rubbing my back. I had the illest headache and she was trying to cook me some eggs but I just wanted to get the **** out of there. I figured I'd be nice and talk to her for a bit so somehow we ended up talking about dick size and she's like "yeah, my ex boyfriend grew his dick an inch and a half by doing kegels". She swore on it and said she'd seen the process and everything. I don't know if it was true but just thought I'd share.

ThaVirus 02-21-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10446226)
Then your girl would just cheat on you with some guy that she could actually handle without feeling like her soul is going to be ripped in half?

Yeah, **** all that.

I like to go deep. I'm talking burying my sword to the hilt, feel me? I've actually hit cervix on a few girls I've had sex with and it's not a pleasant feeling. Imagine only being able to use 75% of your **** stick.. Or not being able to get head.

No. That's not the life for me.

Buzz 02-21-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10446241)
I've never done kegels and I was just kidding about having a dick that big. That would just be ridiculous LMAO My dick is big enough to do some work and any bitch that doesn't think so can kick rocks.

I boned this fat chick after the club one time. She had been begging for the D for a while but I was like nahhhhhhhh, you're fat. I was hella drunk leaving the club, struck out with a couple late night booty call attempts and got desperate.

So I texted this chick and threw up the Hail Mary. She was probably pushing a deuce fitty so of course she caught it. I roll through and get to helping this bitch burn some calories but just couldn't keep my lil partna in the game. I ended up going through two or three condoms that night because I kept going soft (which was probably a combo of whiskey dick and this chick being a behemoth). I roll over, drunk as hell so you know I didn't give a damn that I just failed to perform and she's like "welllll, you know, I'm on birth control so you don't have to wear a condom....." NEGATIVE, GHOST RIDER. Bitch tried to catch me slippin!

Anyway, I passed out shortly thereafter and woke up the next morning to her rubbing my back. I had the illest headache and she was trying to cook me some eggs but I just wanted to get the **** out of there. I figured I'd be nice and talk to her for a bit so somehow we ended up talking about dick size and she's like "yeah, my ex boyfriend grew his dick an inch and a half by doing kegels". She swore on it and said she'd seen the process and everything. I don't know if it was true but just thought I'd share.


so you nailed the whale with your Bar S frank, it's cool brah.

Bowser 02-21-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10446246)
Yeah, **** all that.

I like to go deep. I'm talking burying my sword to the hilt, feel me? I've actually hit cervix on a few girls I've had sex with and it's not a pleasant feeling. Imagine only being able to use 75% of your **** stick.. Or not being able to get head.

No. That's not the life for me.

My first roommate in the Air Force said he hit bottom on some white chick so hard that she puked pretty violently. Also said she wouldn't stop calling him, either. Heh.

ThaVirus 02-21-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 10446251)
so you nailed the whale with your Bar S frank, it's cool brah.

Well, yes, I guess so. The reason I told the story was because PGM mentioned penis enlargement. This chick swore that it worked so I wanted to share.

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10446254)
My first roommate in the Air Force said he hit bottom on some white chick so hard that she puked pretty violently. Also said she wouldn't stop calling him, either. Heh.

Hah. I wouldn't doubt it.

I don't want to turn this thread into a filthy sex pot, but it's late and you guys are my road dawgs so **** it. Lately I've been getting more into the rough stuff. Nothing major but, you know.. Some hair pulling, biting, spanking, and just generally trying to blast through her stomach.

I can confirm that women really, really like that stuff.

Buzz 02-21-2014 11:07 PM

thread turned stupid, I'm out.

ThaVirus 02-21-2014 11:08 PM

LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni 02-21-2014 11:28 PM

Nice story haha. There was a poster here that swears by jelqing.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-21-2014 11:30 PM

Oh......and who has not gone soft with a chubby ROFL. Never had a whale like virus though.

Buzz 02-21-2014 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10446254)
My first roommate in the Air Force said he hit bottom on some white chick so hard that she puked pretty violently. Also said she wouldn't stop calling him, either. Heh.

so your the 40 year old virgin getting played.

Buzz 02-21-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10446275)
LMAO

how many multz you play?

Pasta Little Brioni 02-21-2014 11:35 PM

Buzz is drunk as ****.

Buzz 02-21-2014 11:37 PM

don't be a dumbass, your dad will get punched in the gut.

Buzz 02-21-2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10446308)
Buzz is drunk as ****.

what ever dumbass, your being trolled.

ThaVirus 02-21-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10446300)
Oh......and who has not gone soft with a chubby ROFL. Never had a whale like virus though.

She was a biggun, that's for sure. Sweet girl though. She still hits me up from time to time.

I'd love to get some head from her again (she was a pro) but I don't think I could finagle that deal without having to service her somehow.

ThaVirus 02-21-2014 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10446295)
Nice story haha. There was a poster here that swears by jelqing.

Shit, I wouldn't knock it. I bet you could add a little size that way.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-21-2014 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10446329)
Shit, I wouldn't knock it. I bet you could add a little size that way.

Teedubya had a big thread on the issue.

Some extremes have gone from like 4 to 7 on the gym. Pretty crazy claims.

Discuss Thrower 02-22-2014 12:18 AM

Something something size of the boat something something motion something ocean.

Katipan 02-22-2014 07:58 AM

Dr. Oz said you gain half an inch for every 50lbs you lose.

Hammock Parties 02-22-2014 08:05 AM

Very successful 2nd date last night. Going to do something sporty next time.

Katipan 02-22-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10446461)
Very successful 2nd date last night. Going to do something sporty next time.

I had a real life smile for that post.

Rausch 02-22-2014 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 10446459)
Dr. Oz said you gain half an inch for every 50lbs you lose.

Never helps when your fun parts are obscured by flop-gut...

Pasta Little Brioni 02-22-2014 08:38 AM

I lose 50 pounds I will look like white Urkel

HoneyBadger 02-22-2014 07:04 PM

Houston I have a problem:

I had a girlfriend for about 5 years, we broke up 2 years ago and recently started dating again. She's swell and all, but I'm not sure if she's my safety blanket and we are talking again because we're bored.

I'm also dating this other girl. She's a few years old than I am. She really likes me but I'm not too into her. She's decently cute but I just don't see long term.

Should I just keep one around? Both? None?

Anyone else date multiple girls (or guys NTTAWWI)and not really be into either?

ThaVirus 02-22-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 10447539)
Anyone else date multiple girls and not really be into either?

All the time.

HoneyBadger 02-22-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10447579)
All the time.

How long do you keep them around before you move on?

Titty Meat 02-22-2014 07:29 PM

Getting pretty bored with the girl I'm seeing

Pasta Little Brioni 02-22-2014 07:32 PM

Tell us a story billay

Hammock Parties 02-22-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 10447539)
Houston I have a problem:

I had a girlfriend for about 5 years, we broke up 2 years ago and recently started dating again. She's swell and all, but I'm not sure if she's my safety blanket and we are talking again because we're bored.

I'm also dating this other girl. She's a few years old than I am. She really likes me but I'm not too into her. She's decently cute but I just don't see long term.

Should I just keep one around? Both? None?

Anyone else date multiple girls (or guys NTTAWWI)and not really be into either?

Just be glad you aren't this guy.

http://i.imgur.com/NhGLfOZ.jpg?1

HoneyBadger 02-22-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10447657)
Just be glad you aren't this guy.

http://i.imgur.com/NhGLfOZ.jpg?1

That's how I felt with the last girl I dated.

HoneyBadger 02-22-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10447616)
Getting pretty bored with the girl I'm seeing

Wanna swap?

Pasta Little Brioni 02-22-2014 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 10447660)
Wanna swap?

You sure? His gal's nickname is his screen name.

ghak99 02-22-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 10447539)
Houston I have a problem:

I had a girlfriend for about 5 years, we broke up 2 years ago and recently started dating again. She's swell and all, but I'm not sure if she's my safety blanket and we are talking again because we're bored.

I'm also dating this other girl. She's a few years old than I am. She really likes me but I'm not too into her. She's decently cute but I just don't see long term.

Should I just keep one around? Both? None?

Anyone else date multiple girls (or guys NTTAWWI)and not really be into either?

Anymore I'm pretty honest. They know I'm not in a hurry. They know there are probably other women. They know they're not the only ex hanging around. Some are cool with it, others go ape shit and you don't hear from them again. For whatever reason they normally don't see other guys as they're pretty busy with life and work so it all works out.

If I find someone I think might be the special porn star who likes to cook and clean, I normally tone down or stop the other activities all together.

Whatever you do, keep their names and stories straight! Even the coolest of chicks despise crossing that line in the sand. LMAO

GordonGekko 02-22-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 10447539)
Houston I have a problem:

I had a girlfriend for about 5 years, we broke up 2 years ago and recently started dating again. She's swell and all, but I'm not sure if she's my safety blanket and we are talking again because we're bored.

I'm also dating this other girl. She's a few years old than I am. She really likes me but I'm not too into her. She's decently cute but I just don't see long term.

Should I just keep one around? Both? None?

Anyone else date multiple girls (or guys NTTAWWI)and not really be into either?

Sounds expensive.

I did this for awhile a couple years ago, but both were fresh girls. Ended up going with the wrong one.

HoneyBadger 02-22-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 10447701)
Anymore I'm pretty honest. They know I'm not in a hurry. They know there are probably other women. They know they're not the only ex hanging around. Some are cool with it, others go ape shit and you don't hear from them again. For whatever reason they normally don't see other guys as they're pretty busy with life and work so it all works out.

If I find someone I think might be the special porn star who likes to cook and clean, I normally tone down or stop the other activities all together.

Whatever you do, keep their names and stories straight! Even the coolest of chicks despise crossing that line in the sand. LMAO

Made the mistake of calling one by the wrong name. That made the rest of sex awkward.

HoneyBadger 02-22-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10447721)
Sounds expensive.

I did this for awhile a couple years ago, but both were fresh girls. Ended up going with the wrong one.

Actually one really likes me so she always takes me out and pays to impress me. My ex that I'm dating just likes coming over. So overall it's cheap.

GordonGekko 02-22-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 10447748)
Actually one really likes me so she always takes me out and pays to impress me. My ex that I'm dating just likes coming over. So overall it's cheap.

Yeah, I went with the one that seemed to like me better. Big mistake I made.


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