DM can do whatever he wants, he's earned that right. I'd rather have it go to Perez than Glass. But it's still bullshit it's a 1-way street. Sal earns a raise sure....but Outfante damn well deserved a cut

This is awesome. The case is a rather dry one where in this phrase: “relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward.” does "involving a minor or ward" apply to only the third item in the list, or all 3? (The court said only the last item by a vote of 6-2)

To make that point, Sotomayor (who is a huge Yankees fan) wrote this:

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We got Gordon and Salvy locked up now for the future.

Here is how I would rank the next class in importance of getting signed/value:
1. Hosmer
2. Moose
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3. Cain
4. Esky

Typically, do players like LoCain see a sharp drop-off related to age?

Personally, if there were one player we were planning on keeping between Hosmer, Moustakas, Escobar, and Cain, I would prefer Cain.

I personally feel like Cain and Moose are rather interchangeable. Cain has the potential to age like Torri Hunter due to his late development as a player.

Your best WAR years are usually between age 28 and 32. Cain will be 31/32 when he hits the market and is injury prone. Hosmer would be 28. Hosmer could potentially be a player looking at two big pay days. If you are keeping one and hypothetically they stay, Hosmer would be the one by far.

So you're ok with letting Cain walk?

Rany articulates what a lot of Royals fans probably felt in this tweet.

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Cain is a pretty easy one to let walk. Age, injury issues, and his game is based on his legs.

Does Rany feel bad about Outfante's deal?

His offensive production in 2015 was not leg-based.

I predict Outfante's going to be completely healed and bounce back this season. He's a proud guy. He doesn't want to go out as a giant anchor around the team's neck.

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What great news... this will go over well in the clubhouse.

The Royals are built to be a dynasty. I ****ing love Dayton Moore.

Cain's entire game is built around speed and athleticism. We will have gotten his best WAR years for cheap. Thanks for the memories and let somebody else pay for his down years.

Why is Moose so important?

He's a pretty average player right now.

Not sure why people think different.

Moose was 4.4 in WAR last year, second on the team. He is 27. Third isn't exactly stacked in our minor league system. He is going to be in the 2 hole again this year.

probably, how many posts are you going to dedicate to this agenda?

Of those four, Cain is the oldest. Hosmer is the youngest. If I could only have one, it'd be Hosmer. If I had to let one go, it would be Escobar.

I really like Hunter Dozier who's at AA right now.

Why? He is 24 and sucking ass in AA. I think Cuthbert is next in line.

Duncan would know better than I, but I believe Dozier's ceiling is higher than Cuthbert. I don't believe the Royals see Cuthbert as a replacement for Moose but Dozier might be.

Albert Pujols disagrees.

Cuthbert has shown potential imo

Would like for them to really push him this year and see what happens

He always was an asshole

I thought Cuthbert looked like he belonged last year. I know they've played around with him in the OF but I don't think anything's come of it. It's too bad because it'd be nice to have his bat in the lineup. It's a good situation to be in. Between him and Dozier, they have options. And you'd generally think Moose would be easier to sign than Hosmer. I think they'll legitimately try to re-sign both though. At least by then most of their contact will be covered by the new TV deal.
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Dozier has looked way too stiff when I've watched him play. He needs to lay off the juice.

I wonder if Dayton is going to reach out to any of those guys for a long term deal now that Salvy is done. I assume they at least try.

What about keeping Cyborg after 2017? Does everyone think he's just going to fall off the table, or be too expensive? Rivera was able to keep his cutter magic going for a long long time.

I am not sure that is the best example. Hosmer is a great player but has nowhere close to the production of Pujols. The Cards already gave him a 100 million contract and then offered him a great deal before he went to the Angels.

Here is a quick wrap up.

Three teams were reported to be interested in Pujols during the offseason: the Cardinals, the Miami Marlins, and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. The Cardinals offered Pujols a 10-year, $210 million deal (with $30 million deferred), but Pujols rejected it. His wife explained on a radio talk show that they were "insulted" and "confused" that the Cardinals had initially offered Pujols a five-year deal.[149] The Marlins reportedly offered Pujols a 10-year contract too, but on December 8 he signed a 10-year deal with the Angels worth around $254 million.[150][151][152] The contract offered by the Marlins was reportedly around the value as that offered by the Angels. However, the Marlins (who have a history of fire sales) refused to include a no trade clause in the contract.

I don't think Hosmer would be "insulted" by 210 million bucks- but I guess if some team throws that kind of crazy money at him, he would have to take it.

In hindsight-the Cards really dodged an albatross of a contract.

Does anyone other than Bro Harper get a 10-year-deal ever again?

I have a feeling Wade's cutter would age pretty well. K-Rod, Madson and O'Day are recent examples of bullpen guys maintaining their effectiveness into their 30's.

Trout maybe? The Angels are pretty dumb with contracts.

Today was an amazing day in Royals history. There are fans who are unhappy because the Royals are spending too much money.

Not really, but I never thought I'd see the day where people would question a signing like Salvy's.
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That's who I immediately thought of, but I'm not sure how well he will age. Kevin Kiermaier could be a contender as well.

No, really:

http://www.royalsreview.com/2016/3/1...vador#comments

Aroldis Chapman 30 game suspension, not going to appeal.

I miss him.

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NOAH SYNDEGAARD IS 60 FEET AWAY, ANDY!!!

You forgot the other 6 inches...


ROFL what a ****ing douche that guy is.

Gonna have to unfollow McCullough. I can't sit through 100 Yasiel Puig updates just for the occasional twitter feud with Mellinger.

His first game will probably be against KC on 5/9.

Potentially. If his bat stays at 2015 levels, and he adds a smudge more power, he could be a plus RF well into his mid-30s like Hunter was. Just depends on how the bar holds up.

He's going to lose some IF hits as he ages, but if he's hitting 20 HR and 35 2b, he plays just fine there.

Letting Cain go has gotta be one of the dumbest thoughts on the planet. He was team MVP and a BIG BIG part of our success.

Not limited to the planet.

Cain's value is heavily tied to his legs. He had a ton of IF hits in 2014 and 2015, which contributed to his BA. His defense is heavily reliant on his speed and range.

Those are all things that are unlikely to age well as he hits his mid-30s.

If he becomes merely a good RF rather than an elite (top 3-5) Cf defensively, and his BA drops 15-20 points with fewer leg hits, he will need to continue to be the type of power hitter he was in 2015.

If he puts up another .300/15-20 HR/.350 OBP/.475 SLG season, ok. Extending him makes a lot more sense. Otherwise,
In extending him, you're risking having the next Carl Crawford on your payroll.

Clifs: you have to be cautious about the commitments to you make to speed guys as they enter their 30s.

I love me some LoCain but it's absolutely right to be very cautious with an aging outfielder who's value on both sides relates to his legs.

I stand corrected. I was just basing that comment on a couple of small comments I've seen on Rany tweets. That's pretty brutal, even for Royals fans.

There's always risk, but it's not like catchers always fall off a cliff either. Molina's best seasons were in that 29-30 range. Perez is only 25 years old. They just signed a 25 year old multiple Gold Glove catcher to a a 6 year deal that is $30 million less than what guys like McCann and Martin got. I get they already had him under contract, and he definitely needs to rest more.... but people are talking like he's going to be a 1B at 28. He's probably the toughest guy on the team, and his value to this team will be extremely difficult to replace too.

Yeah, a lot of Royals internet fans are being dumb about this.

They're the same type of folks who keep insisting that the Royals need to trade Hosmer after this season for prospects and restock the farm rather.

Yeah, there's a growing number of people on the Royals subreddit who think trading Hos after 16 is the way to go.

**** that noise. I don't care what the next year brings, you simply don't gut a WS caliber team.

Absolutely not. No they likely won't be as good after 17, but they'll still have Gordon and Perez. Ventura will be entering his prime and he's locked up long term. And hopefully they can sign Moose or Hos. Then add Mondesi and Cuthbert to the mix, maybe Starling can come around, plus Zimmer, Almonte, maybe Ashe Russell. Plus any contracts they hand out will be mostly under a new TV contract. It hopefully won't be that bleak.

Hosmer's agent is Boras

It might come down to 'trade him or lose him for nothing'


unless Hos has a bad year, Boras will be shooting for a bigger market

Cain is still probably our best player overall

Thanks to everyone for their MLB.TV recommendations.

I'm definitely in.

:D

At worst they would get a pick for the qualifying offer. They wont end up with nothing.

Uh, a potential WS in 2017 isn't "nothing".

Championships are why you play the game.

I imagine they will wait until it's a trade deadline situation for it anyway.

If we are out of it, try to make a killing from some team desperate for a bat.

So what'd you do? Take the $85 single team package for the Royals?

Cheapest route. The dude only gives his kids $5/tooth FFS.

I haven't signed up yet but I'm going to do the full deal, even though I probably won't use it.

I just like the option of watching other teams, especially during the day.

It might be fun to watch the Cubbies day games this season.

Stopped by the Surprise Complex today and got my daughter a spring training Royals hat. She's almost 2 but she knows where we're going Saturday lol.

Well played

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Right now? Yes. In 2018? He might be then, too. The question is if you give him a lucrative long-term deal for age 32-on, how does he hold up? If he stops putting up elite defensive and baserunning contributions and stops getting 20 leg hits a year, are you still getting enough from him for what you're going to pay him?

If he hits at the same level in 2016 and 2017 as he did in 2015, then year, you probably feel pretty good about that.

Hell, if he hits at the same level in 2016, you can start talking to him then, probably, and feel pretty good about him holding up.

It won't come down to losing him for nothing. If he leaves as a FA, there will be some sort of compensation for KC. It makes no sense to move that key of a member of the team before the 2017 season, a season in which KC will be expecting to repeat regardless of what happens this season.

I also no longer am 100 percent certain Hosmer will leave. If his play levels out where it did last season, they will have a chance to keep him. Maybe not a great one, but better than zero.

It's that way on the Scout board, too. I just don't get it. The logic of trading away a piece that can help you have a championship type season NOW to get guys who may help and who may not help you get back to that point down the road is just silly.

If you can hold out to around Fathers Day it gets a pretty fair discount close to 50% off.

Thanks man but I can't miss a full month of baseball to save a few bucks.

I got a couple streams that you can have. They may be illegal, but **** key grips

LMAO

http://www.sas.usace.army.mil/portal...ellFishing.jpg

I've had MLB Extra Innings and NFLST since I moved to AZ years ago. Directv loves me errr my money. I get NFLST free though so that's good.

It's just because they're not used to thinking of things from the top of the mountain.

You don't let key pieces go unless a) you have no choice or b) your window has closed and you need to restock.

If Boras does what Boras does, Hosmer will be gone after '17. You might be able to afford Moose.

But unless we're tanking, I don't think I'd send Hos packing early.

I just mentioned to one of my best friends that a sizable chunk of this fanbase only knows how to root for a 100 loss team.

Nobody ever mentions ol' Kendrys. Remember that guy who was a huge part of the offense?

He's basically a free agent after 2016. There's a mutual option for 2017 at $11M, which he'll surely decline if he has a decent season. After what the A's gave Billy after a bad season, I have no idea what decent DHs are going for.

He's been mentioned several times in the past couple days

And so it begins ...

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Shit... How long is that injury

They can linger for weeks. The good news is it happened at the beginning of ST.

Let's see what ya got, Travis Snider!

Jorge with a solo homer in the 6th.

Perez pledges $1 million to KC urban youth baseball academy

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb...e63595377.html

It's Dusty Coleman time, woman!!!!

This.

Welcome back baseball!

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