Steve Brown looked good last weekend. I would keep him before Cooper.

I'd keep brown as well.

Clowney has been banged up alot, but man, I thought that dude would be phenomenal rushing the passer.

Wonder what they'd take for him?

Nope, it was before. The second he fell asleep on it they got his ass.

To think the Texans had their pick of Bortles or Mack and took Clowney. I know I know, hindisight, but still.

ROFL

I think it was before, as staylor said.

Alex, Maclin, and Kelce should play only a quarter Saturday IMO if things are running smooth.

DJ and Peters too, defensively.

I would like to see Alex pulled after a quarter, and let Foles and/or Murray have a couple of drives with the starters.

If they still had Mario Williams and took Mack man having Williams,Watt and Mack.

Could have had Mack, Watt, and Williams. Brutal.

To switch sports, it happened to the Royals, too. We could have had Chris Sale instead of Christian Colon*. :facepalm:





*Christian Colon DID have on of the biggest hits of Royals history, so he has that going for him. But right now we could have Sale, Duffy, Ventura, and Volquez going for us. But we have Colon. :shake:

Holy shit, THIS X eleventy billion thousand trillion!!! I want to see Foles with the starters.

Reid has already said that the 1st teamers will play the entire first half, with the 2nd team taking the 3rd quarter and the 3rd & 4th teamers playing in the 4th.

True, but he also said he makes those decisions "on the fly", so if they come out red hot the first two series, I wouldn't be shocked if he changes his mind.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said plan is for Alex Smith to play the first half as well, but that could change. Added he &quot;makes those decisions on the fly.&quot;</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/766297087797407744">August 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The plan is for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> first-team offense to play the first half on Saturday night against the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash">#Rams</a>, the 2&#39;s in 3Q and 3&#39;s in 4Q.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/766296643876429824">August 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Yeah, I'd imagine that if they have two consecutive TD drives to start the game, Reid will give Foles some time with the first teamers.

The Rams looked awful in the first half last week against the Cowboys, so it'll be interesting to see if they look any better against the Chiefs.

Well shit, now I am actually excited to watch a preseason game.

LMAO

Also, the funny thing is Dee Ford had containment on that play - a run. Exactly one play later, they faked that run and had the bootleg roll out. Ford bit on the PA fake.

Both plays, he just guessed wrong. Maybe it was just bad luck, maybe not, but they were designed to fool him.

He did his job the first play. I wouldn't say he "guessed wrong". He got caught sleeping the second time though.

That's fair.

Pretty much.

That's what makes houston so awesome though. Dude can play both and legitimately make a play on the qb if he keeps or the rb of he gives from the same spot. Pretty awesome.

We did the same thing with Fisher people... Give the dude a chance at a full season before we call him a bust.. Jesus

https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/766370548880445445

Interesting. Sounds like dj is hopeful hali and Houston get back sooner than later

Tamba is playing week 1. Guaranteed.

Probably our smartest, most in tune defensive player is citing the contributions of Frank Zombo at OLB.

That can't possibly be a good thing.

On a side note, DJ doesn't look anything like the kid that came into the league. I recognize the voice more than the face at this point.

Anyone else get a little dj shot towards ford therr? Just me? Ok.

I was gonna let someone else bring that up.

Honestly, if Zombo can set the edge and stop the run, I'd just put him in Houston's spot, let ford rotate with hali and hope the dl can make up the lost pass rush.

Dee wasn't in a bad position like I originally thought. He is just slow as **** when going side to side.

He's also been a giant pussy in the run game like Ramik Wilson, so there's that..

If Ford was doing well, you can bet your bottom dollar that DJ would've said something. Instead, he's giving kudos to Zombo. To me, that speaks volumes.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those that want to know how Jamaal Charles looked today in final day of camp, here you go. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/EItmYsrHHo">pic.twitter.com/EItmYsrHHo</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/766373104893489152">August 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Damning words from DJ about Dee Ford....

Asked if the defense can be dominant without a premier edge rush and he quickly responded with "no" and then a long pause then "big shoes to fill" ....then only mentions Zombo.

If Ford was doing his job, DJ would have praised him.

Bad pursuit angle. That's a demonstration of his lack of instinct imo.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">. <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor">@TerezPaylor</a> ask Derrick Johnson if the defense can be as dominant of the edge rush isn&#39;t as good. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/PagxynpOFA">pic.twitter.com/PagxynpOFA</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/766370548880445445">August 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Dee Ford is a heck of a player. He&#39;s a playmaker. He&#39;ll make some plays. It&#39;s up to him as to how many plays.&quot; - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> LB Derrick Johnson</p>&mdash; 610 Sports Radio- KC (@610SportsKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/610SportsKC/status/766297929082662913">August 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I just posted that video too.

"Dee Ford is a heck of a player. He's a playmaker. He'll make some plays. It's up to him as to how many plays." - #Chiefs LB Derrick Johnson

There you go overanalyzing press conferences again. LMAO

They had already discussed Ford the question before that I believe. He did say it's up to him though, and I like that.

https://twitter.com/ryanjames28/stat...63245846331393

So, the play to maclin, while ended with a good result, was kind of meh and a bit why smith struggles in the redzone. Missed kelce in the middle, then wilson in the endzone on the scramble.

Hopefully in the season he pulls the trigger on the throw to the te in the middle.

Lol @ anybody thinking he could've hit Wilson once he took off to his left.

Looks slow.



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Same old Alex Smith.




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I mean, he hit maclin. Why couldn't he throe it 4 yards farther?

Edit: nevermind. He's coming too straight down the line to get his body around the throw. Would have been tough to get much on it. Probably a pick, good eye.

Not really.

Watch that play again - Look at where the middle linebacker is as Kelce's starting his cut. His first few strides after the break, that backer is there and could've easily dropped back to cut the ball off. It isn't until he sees the back in the flat that he vacates the zone and actually creates an opening for Smith to hit Kelce. Prior to the LB committing to the flat, Smith can absolutely not throw that football.

Now once that happens, he has about a half-second window. But as that's going on, look at the safety up on the goalline - he has Kelce locked in and lined up. Now, Smith could have still thrown that ball. And maybe Smith should have thrown that ball. But that's a definite maybe there; QBs that get their receivers destroyed over the middle aren't terribly popular. If he lets that ball fly, that safety is going to have 8 yards of targeted sprint directed right into Kelce's ribs as the ball gets there.

Like I said, it's big boy football, maybe he still throws it and tells Kelce to man up. But you could see him spot that safety and I don't think for a minute it was him looking to avoid the interception that led him to pulling it back down after he starts to throw; it was looking to avoid a decapitation. That's absolutely defensible.

As for Wilson, GTFOH. That throw would've been beyond stupid. You absolutely do not throw backwards across your body and late over the middle(ish) when you're down on the goalline. That's a throw that Jay Cutler makes 5 times out of 5, 1 of them is caught, 2 are deflected and 2 are picked off. It's a stupid, stupid decision.

He kept his TE from getting killed, scrambled to buy time and kept his head upfield the whole time until he spotted Maclin breaking the route and actually threw him open. There's nothing but positive things to take away from that play.

You're not serious here, are you? Maclin was in front of him and in the direction of his momentum. Wilson wasn't. At all. Legs/feet make the all the difference in the world on pretty much every throw a QB makes and his were in no way, shape or form in a position to make an accurate, assertive throw to Wilson there.

EDIT: I'm glad to see you aren't as dumb as I've always assumed you are.

Maclin was running parallel with Smith, while Wilson was running deep the other way.

You said so yourself, in the redzone, thems the windows you're getting. Look at Kelce's route. He sits it down nicely and actualky starts to feel the safety there, leaking back to the hole.

It's just fast and tight down there. That's actualky a pretty big opening and smith does a good job of moving that ml with his eyes on the back.

Against a fast defense like the seahawks, that's about what you're grtting down there.

****, I'm assuming that's earl thimas, dude breaks on Kelce's route then almost runs down the qb. ****.

O.City is "that guy" at the game sitting there bitching that he missed Wilson in the endzone on an impossible throw with defenders breathing down his neck while everybody else is cheering.

LMAO

How did Eric Berry do in practice today?

He can't lead kelce into the safety there for sure, it's gotta be low and away from the safety.

We were always preached to throe it low in the hashes in the redzone. I'm guessing that's why, I never really had a chance to see why because I was getting g ****ing demolished in the backfield due to our shit blocking.

All jokes aside, camps over and it's time to sign and get back with the team. Can we all agree on that?

See my edit.

I made my initial post after just watching the routes breakdown, quickly realizing my dumb****ery.

All good man I'm just giving you shit. Figured that was a brain fart on your part because I know you played ball.

Well all know "that guy" though. :facepalm:

No doubt; the windows are small down there. Like I said, had he made that throw, I wouldn't have complained. But as you've noted, perhaps it was precisely because Kelce settled down there and Smith was getting ready to lead him. The route could've easily called for that and one step from Kelce is about all he has to make the decision as to whether or not Kelce appears to be settling. If he was, it wasn't quick or obvious.

What I'm saying is that there are some good reasons to have not made that throw. If he makes it - fine. But he isn't wrong for not making it. Nor would he have been wrong for making it.

My preference is to not ever get your TE killed in the first quarter of a pre-season game. I'm glad he didn't throw the ball and in the process he showed a willingness to stay behind the line, keep his head upfield and throw his receiver to a spot on the field. That was a damn nice play by Smith.

I don't really have an issue with that circumstance, but there may come a time in january or February, we need that throw.

hes made tight window throws or at least attempted them when things are on the line.. I wouldn't worry to much.

Alex Smith had 3 guys open and still pulled the ball down.


fortunately he found someone open for a second time, not going to happen that often.

Alex Smith said the reason why he didn't throw it the first time is that a defender jump in front of him. He must do better.

It was good that he keep his eyes up and found another receiver though.

ROFL


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It looked like he saw Wilson and went to pull the ball up.. does anybody else see it.. and realized he couldn't get his momentum going in that direction to make a safe throw or maybe he was scared (Smith haters personal choice) but I think he made a good play to go to his most trusted receiver

why is there such a deep analyst on one play in preseason haha. Tom Brady missed gronk vs the broncos in the playoffs that would have saved the day at the end... it happens

“I was really trying to hit Kelce in the middle of the field and actually had him open. I had kind of lost vision, the D-lineman had kind of jumped as I was going to throw it and just kind of tucked it and all of a sudden just kind of found myself rolling out.”

That's why he didn't throw to Kelce. To make the throw to wilson he would've had to stop and set his feet. he didn't have time.

Most of our redzone problems are playcalling more than anything. when we call conservative screens and swing passes down there we tend to struggle. when we call more traditional pass plays we tend to have more success.

Alex Smith looks like he has more arm strength this year. I'm excited.

What are the chances that we start the season with Ford and Zombo as out starting OLBs?

Tamba will be out there.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJNjpueA...n-by=tambahali

Yeah he might be out there but that doesn't mean he will start or play many snaps.

http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city...for-the-chiefs

While Jamaal Charles has returned to practice in a limited way, the Kansas City Chiefs are still waiting for Tamba Hali. The veteran linebacker had surgery to clean up debris in his knee and hasn't practiced all offseason or in camp.

The delay in Hali's case is more about the general state of his balky knees, which have given him trouble for years.

"Tamba's isn't as much the surgical part of it," coach Andy Reid said. "He's getting up there in years and his knees are not in the greatest of shape. Nothing that surgery is going to correct on that."

The Chiefs are expecting Hali to return to practice shortly and be ready for the Sept. 11 season opener against the San Diego Chargers at Arrowhead Stadium. But Reid's comments suggest the Chiefs will have to manage and perhaps limit Hali's playing time when he's back. That's something Hali himself suggested the Chiefs might do back in March, when he signed his new contract.

"I know they want to limit my role as in how much I play to be able to sustain me over the 24-week period of playing a season, but I believe there will be times that I may have to play the entire game and I believe there will be times I have to step back and there will be other guys that will play," Hali said then. "I'll just be needed when they need me."

This isn't an enviable situation for the Chiefs, who are without Justin Houston. Without Houston and Hali, their top outside linebacker is Dee Ford, who didn't play well in Saturday's preseason opener against the Seattle Seahawks.

"I'm not going to tell you he had his best game," Reid said. "That's not what I'm going to tell you. There are plays he wishes he had back."

Neither one of those things are really great especially considering what they gave him in $$$$ and it is an age as well as wear thing for him.

He had that procedure 7 months ago. He's fine. He was doing his MMA shit before training camp and looked great. No sense in him going out there and getting hurt. He doesn't need the practice. We'll definitely rotate, but he will play a lot.

Chase Daniel just led the Eagles on a long drive for a TD vs the Steelers.


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Dude, welcome to a Chiefs' bbs

we analyze everything.

Don't mean to rain on your positive parade, but look at the offensive linemen. One of them is 10 yards downfield, and two more are probably 5, give or take a bit.

They're going to run Hali's ass ragged for as long as Houston is out.

LOS was about the 20, Schwartz was at about the 16, and the rest of the line was within 3 yards of the LOS.

So, no.

Andy is taking a awful chance playing our first unit 2 quarters in the second game. I don't like it.

LOS is 21+ a smidgen. #79 is on the 14 and # 61 is at the 17. #72 is at the 19. By rule, all three are in violation.

They paid 3 years 21 mil to do it too. Baffling.

There's some players that need it.

Smith
Conley
West
OLINE

After last years slow start maybe changing things up a bit.

**** off.

You're boring and still say the same the shit, over and over.

Hopefully, you and Claynus are banned on the same day.

Yeah, because reps is a bad thing.

I have a good feeling about Dadi Nicolas. His passion reminds me of the passion Tamba plays with. Maybe that's bc he was born in Haiti and understands from his family how much hard work can pay off.

The guy was a redshirt freshman at VTech and as a Sophomore he got a sack against elite talent vs Bama and then the next year 2 sacks against elite talent vs Ohio State.
He would have gotten a lot more sacks if he didn't take it for the team and play 3 tech as a senior, but that showed his toughness.

Guy was busting his ass and playing like a man on fire last weekend. Hope he keeps this up

And defensively, Ford needs as much playing time as possible.

**** off.

You're boring and still say the same shit, over and over.

Andy has always played starters for the full half of the 2nd preseason game since being here. That's nothing knew.

The 3rd game, the starters will play somewhere around 2 1/2 quarters. It's like this every season.

LMAO