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Silock 09-29-2010 03:51 AM

Now we're getting somewhere!

How tall are you? 220 is still really, really heavy.

As for your goals:

Losing body fat is just a matter of continuing to do what you're doing already. Cut the calories. Increased exercise isn't really going to speed that process up.

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The important thing to note in these videos isn't so much the ridiculous comparison, but actually how many calories he's burning via exercise -- it's not that much. Increasing your exercise generally makes you hungrier, which can throw off weight-loss efforts, especially as you get into the single digits of body fat.

Now, to the increased lifting frequency -- Where do muscles grow? It's not inside the gym. Muscles grow with rest after they have been challenged. They need at least 48 hours to fully recover. However, just because your MUSCLES have recovered, it doesn't mean the rest of your body has. Your joints, tendons and ligaments are all also being challenged whenever you exercise. They need recovery, too. Increasing the frequency of lifting to 6 days a week is going to start putting major stresses on the body without giving it the time it needs to repair itself.

This can lead not only to overtraining, but also to just increased susceptibility to injury. Running the body down like that, especially during winter, is also bad for the immune system, and can make you more prone to getting sick. Getting sick will not only stall your weight loss, but it hampers your progress, too.

There's no way you can work out 6 days per week and give your body, the muscles, joints, tendons and ligaments, the time it and they need to heal. Healing it what makes the muscles grow. For instance, even if you do chest and back on one day, and then biceps and triceps the next, you're still working overlapping groups. Your triceps play a big part in lifts like the bench press, and the biceps do the same for back work. It's impossible to completely isolate the body parts like that.

More work done is a good thing, generally, but there comes a point when it is just extraneous. If you want to do more work, do it all on the same day. Keep the lifting portion of your workout to around 45 minutes. Work in antagonistic exercises (working an opposing muscle group while the other is resting) and supersets instead of increased rest time between sets.

If you do too much, you will keep the muscles beaten down and they won't have a chance to grow.

Hammock Parties 09-29-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 7030083)
Me too. I gained 10 pounds on my vacation. 11 days. lol

Fasting starts NOW.

Dropped 9 pounds already. Fasting rocks, so does 0 carb. Bring me the finest meats and cheeses in all the land.

58-4ever 09-29-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 7049358)
Dropped 9 pounds already. Fasting rocks, so does 0 carb. Bring me the finest meats and cheeses in all the land.

How long do you fast, and how frequently? Just curious. I have thought about fasting one day a week, starting with 12 hours and making my way up to 24 hours.

Hammock Parties 09-29-2010 04:59 PM

I dunno, kind of been half assing it. Did a little alternate day fasting (24 hours) the first few days, then I started doing dinner to dinner fasts.

I cheated on Sunday, too. Celebrated the 49ers thrashing with a cookie the size of a dinner plate.

24 hours is ideal.

58-4ever 09-29-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 7049403)
I dunno, kind of been half assing it. Did a little alternate day fasting (24 hours) the first few days, then I started doing dinner to dinner fasts.

I cheated on Sunday, too. Celebrated the 49ers thrashing with a cookie the size of a dinner plate.

24 hours is ideal.

That doesn't sound very healthy. You should supplement with vitamins and raw vegetables. JMO....

Hammock Parties 09-29-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 7049412)
That doesn't sound very healthy. You should supplement with vitamins and raw vegetables. JMO....

It's completely healthy.

Simply Red 09-29-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 7049395)
How long do you fast, and how frequently? Just curious. I have thought about fasting one day a week, starting with 12 hours and making my way up to 24 hours.

if you do 12 hours awake on top of your dormant/sleep-time, then it IS a 24hr fast, or close to it. ;)

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-29-2010 06:41 PM

Man, yall crazy. I just limit my intake of food.

Silock 09-29-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7049597)
Man, yall crazy. I just limit my intake of food.

So are fasters. It's just a different method :)

2 hours of soccer tonight, followed by 45 minutes of lifting.

I'm beat.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-29-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7049712)
So are fasters. It's just a different method :)

2 hours of soccer tonight, followed by 45 minutes of lifting.

I'm beat.

I usually lift about 30 to 40 minutes. I work specific areas of the body each day( today was upper chest ). I follow that up with an hour of cardio( the cross-country looking machine is my favorite; I set it for Hill Intervals at level 12)in the morning, then I come back in the afternoon and bang-out a high-speed 30 minutes.

I take one Ephidrine-based fat burner in the morning before I hit the weights and that machine, and the lbs are starting to drop.

Simply Red 09-29-2010 08:08 PM

I'm still going to do 800 crunches and reverse leg-lifts JUST to piss off silock.

Simply Red 09-29-2010 08:09 PM

j/k, but i don't have a bar for the core cizes you'd mentioned.

keg in kc 09-29-2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7031375)
I'm thinking my schedule may slow down enough to get back to running by the middle of next week. Right now there are four projects running simultaneously, and they all air within a week of each other; this is the most difficult schedule I've ever dealt with. I'm on my 17th consecutive 12+ hour workday. I'm being good, though. Salad in the fridge, eating carrots and grapes as I type this, drinking a bottle of water.

So much for that. All of that. I've worked 14-16 hours a day since I posted that, and I'm sucking a liter of dr. pepper down right now to try caffeinate me enough to last until I finish working at around 4 am (hopefully). I'm under serious deadline and I've been living on sugar and fast food this week. Between the diet and the stress and the lack of sleep I'm pretty sure I've gained back all the fat I'd lost in the last 18 months.

The good news is that I'm completely finished a week from tonight, and I'll have both the desire and the time to both run and get back to eating more raw food over processed shit.

The bad news is that I have to find some way to last another week. I'm so low on fumes I'm halfway falling asleep while I type this. And I've got to drag my ass out of bed and get back to work at 10 am.

I've already decided i'm not going to weigh myself on October 1st. I don't even want to know. We'll see where I am on November 1st.

Simply Red 09-29-2010 11:49 PM

time for a serious change, kegger. :)

I'm pullin' for you to break through.

I'm crashing for now, night all

Silock 09-29-2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7049764)
I usually lift about 30 to 40 minutes. I work specific areas of the body each day( today was upper chest ). I follow that up with an hour of cardio( the cross-country looking machine is my favorite; I set it for Hill Intervals at level 12)in the morning, then I come back in the afternoon and bang-out a high-speed 30 minutes.

I take one Ephidrine-based fat burner in the morning before I hit the weights and that machine, and the lbs are starting to drop.

Ephedrine? You're crazy. I just limit my intake of food ;)

BTW, I'm glad it's working for you. If you really want to turbocharge that weight loss, you would do well to consider moving to a full-body workout with compound exercises three days a week. You'll build bigger muscles, too ;)


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