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Messier 01-01-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10326638)
No, they shouldn't. Especially when dropped into shit hole offenses. That's just silly.

Geno is not good. I don't care if he's a rookie.

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326641)
No. And he shouldn't be. The little fan club here is puzzling.

2 in TQBR over the last quarter of the season. That's pretty good for a rook with dog shit to work with.

I'm a fan club of patience with young QB's. I find it laughable that they "should hit the ground running" and if they aren't in the probowl by year 2 and winning a SB in year 3 they are a bust. That's just the average fan and society today as a whole. We want what we want and we want it now.

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326643)
Geno is not good. I don't care if he's a rookie.

Maybe, maybe not. It's too early to say. He obviously has a shit load of physical talent though and he obviously got a lot better at the end of the season. I'm sure he'll be given a chance to take that momentum and run with it next year. We'll know a little more after next season, but still not the entire picture.

What is encouraging it people knocked his toughness and ability to handle adversity. He really picked it up when it looked like his job and career might be on the line and his HC might be getting fired as opposed to quitting or pissing the bed.

Messier 01-01-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10326647)
2 in TQBR over the last quarter of the season. That's pretty good for a rook with dog shit to work with.

I'm a fan club of patience with young QB's. I find it laughable that they "should hit the ground running" and if they aren't in the probowl by year 2 and winning a SB in year 3 they are a bust. That's just the average fan and society today as a whole. We want what we want and we want it now.

37th overall for the season. I'll bet many bad QB has had good four or five games stretches. Geno isn't a good QB.

Messier 01-01-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10326652)
Maybe, maybe not. It's too early to say. He obviously has a shit load of physical talent though and he obviously got a lot better at the end of the season. I'm sure he'll be given a chance to take that momentum and run with it next year. We'll know a little more after next season, but still not the entire picture.

What is encouraging it people knocked his toughness and ability to handle adversity. He really picked it up when it looked like his job and career might be on the line and his HC might be getting fired as opposed to quitting or pissing the bed.

Why do you care?

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326654)
37th overall for the season. I'll bet many bad QB has had good four or five games stretches. Geno isn't a good QB.

Alex had 1 TD and 11 INT's as a rookie yet there are ball washers of his all over. He for sure "Was not a good QB" without giving any glimmer of hope which Geno had done in some games and over a nice 4 game stretch. Patience is a virtue.

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326658)
Why do you care?

Why do you?

Messier 01-01-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10326660)
Alex had 1 TD and 11 INT's as a rookie yet there are ball washers of his all over. Patience is a virtue.

I don't care about a rookie in 2005. It's different now. Rookies are playing, and playing well right away. Geno wasn't just mediocre, he was bad, and game costing for most of the year.

Messier 01-01-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10326664)
Why do you?

I don't. I'm just questioning you.

mschiefs1984 01-01-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326669)
I don't care about a rookie in 2005. It's different now. Rookies are playing, and playing well right away. Geno wasn't just mediocre, he was bad, and game costing for most of the year.

Smith also pretty much only played in half the games last year he played in 9 games overall in 2005 in the first game he threw the ball once. And ran once. He loves to bash Alex for his rookie year. But unlike Geno Alex wasn't given as much of a chance to get better since he wasn't put in so many games. But that little fact escapes him

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326669)
I don't care about a rookie in 2005. It's different now. Rookies are playing, and playing well right away. Geno wasn't just mediocre, he was bad, and game costing for most of the year.

He had a bad stretch, but he wasn't given Jamal Charles or Megatron to the pressure off. I disagree with your assertion. Just look at RG3. He was coached to a good rookie season, but struggled this year. He is obviously a talent that is going to need time to learn the NFL game, just like Geno. Sorry, but that's just the reality of the situation.

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326670)
I don't. I'm just questioning you.

Well with your 100% certainty that Geno is not a good QB I assumed you had spent some time watching his games and researching his statistics rather than talk out your ass. My fault.

Also for someone that doesn't care you sure like to debate it a lot LMAO

BossChief 01-01-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326669)
I don't care about a rookie in 2005. It's different now. Rookies are playing, and playing well right away. Geno wasn't just mediocre, he was bad, and game costing for most of the year.

How many times in NFL history do you think a team has won 8 or ore games with a rookie quarterback?

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984 (Post 10326679)
Smith also pretty much only played in half the games last year he played in 9 games overall in 2005 in the first game he threw the ball once. And ran once. He loves to bash Alex for his rookie year. But unlike Geno Alex wasn't given as much of a chance to get better since he wasn't put in so many games. But that little fact escapes him

1TD 11 Picks. You can't spin that shit you ****ing dolt. :facepalm:

Rasputin 01-01-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10326669)
I don't care about a rookie in 2005. It's different now. Rookies are playing, and playing well right away. Geno wasn't just mediocre, he was bad, and game costing for most of the year.



What is different today than 2005? You are not giving a guy a chance to get better after a course of a year. He has this offseason to better himself just like every other quarterback. YES Geno Smith was bad this season but he did show that he can compete and get better over time. What's wrong with that?


He may shit the bed next year but at least give him the opportunity to not shit the bed.


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