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ShowtimeSBMVP 01-01-2014 07:29 PM

Geno Fan club is funny.


John Idzik- The First year GM that draft Geno own words.


At one point in the 35-minute news conference, Idzik referred to Smith as "a quarterback on our roster." This came one day after Smith received strong support from teammates.

"We're all excited about having Geno as part of the New York Jets," Idzik said, "but we will always look to improve any position."

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...mith-improving



If Geno was as good as some make him here. John Doesn't say that.


I love This

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10326123)
Smart move to not tip your hand before the draft.


You act like they have a top 10 pick. They pick at 18 nothing to hide.

Snapplez 01-01-2014 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10326958)
Geno Fan club is funny.


John Idzik- The First year GM that draft Geno own words.


At one point in the 35-minute news conference, Idzik referred to Smith as "a quarterback on our roster." This came one day after Smith received strong support from teammates.

"We're all excited about having Geno as part of the New York Jets," Idzik said, "but we will always look to improve any position."

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...mith-improving



If Geno was as good as some make him here. John Doesn't say that.


I love This




You act like they have a top 10 pick. They pick number 18 nothing to hide.

We'll be picking late too. Might as well go ahead and tell everyone who we want. Nothin to hide amirite?

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10326958)
Geno Fan club is funny.


John Idzik- The First year GM that draft Geno own words.


At one point in the 35-minute news conference, Idzik referred to Smith as "a quarterback on our roster." This came one day after Smith received strong support from teammates.

"We're all excited about having Geno as part of the New York Jets," Idzik said, "but we will always look to improve any position."

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...mith-improving



If Geno was as good as some make him here. John Doesn't say that.


I love This




You act like they have a top 10 pick. They pick number 18 nothing to hide.

Do you know how I know you are dumbass? LMAO

ViperVisor 01-01-2014 08:20 PM

ESPN QBR tries and does some smart things. But end result can be F'd up.

Carson Palmer
Christian Ponder
Alex Smith

How does Smith end up 3rd slightly below those 2?

POSITIVES for both over Smith
-Better %
-Better Yards Per

Palmer and Smith about the same in TD throws and Sacks and fumbles.

Ponder and Smith about the same in running.

Ponder worse TD throws and fumbles and Sacks.

Palmer WAY worse at running. 3 yards all year.

Palmer and Ponder WAY worse at throwing INT 2.7x more than Smith.


The most easy and obvious adjustment would be for WR Drops.
The difference from best to worst ends up in almost 4 less points in completion %.

Drops are the only reason Palmer and Ponder are ahead of Smith in completion %. KC was bottom 5 while AZ and MIN were top 5.


It just doesn't make sense to not penalize hard for INTs. It was still a problem with the original Passer Rating.

W-L records Last 3 seasons top 14 guys in keeping INT% low.
124-62
121-82
128-69

That Win% is 10.2 Wins per season rate.

How QBs that were 5th from the bottom at giving the ball away were slightly better than 1 who was 3rd from the top seems crazy to me.

mschiefs1984 01-01-2014 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10326958)
Geno Fan club is funny.


John Idzik- The First year GM that draft Geno own words.


At one point in the 35-minute news conference, Idzik referred to Smith as "a quarterback on our roster." This came one day after Smith received strong support from teammates.

"We're all excited about having Geno as part of the New York Jets," Idzik said, "but we will always look to improve any position."

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...mith-improving



If Geno was as good as some make him here. John Doesn't say that.


I love This




You act like they have a top 10 pick. They pick at 18 nothing to hide.

But Geno won 8 games who else can do that in his rookie year? It's not like Mark Sanchez did it or anything in one LESS start LMAO

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mschiefs1984 (Post 10327093)
But Geno won 8 games who else can do that in his rookie year? It's not like Mark Sanchez did it or anything in one LESS start LMAO

Mark 4x as many playoff wins as Smiff. Debating 101. Don't use an example that also discredits your argument.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-01-2014 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10327104)
Mark 4x as many playoff wins as Smiff. Debating 101. Don't use an example that also discredits your argument.

Jets D won 4x more games then Smith. That's right you only use Great D line for Smith.

mschiefs1984 01-01-2014 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10327104)
Mark 4x as many playoff wins as Smiff. Debating 101. Don't use an example that also discredits your argument.

Do you even know what my argument is in regards to Alex?

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mschiefs1984 (Post 10327112)
Do you even know what my argument is in regards to Alex?

No and I've seen enough of your post to assume whatever you position you take is likely wrong.

BigCatDaddy 01-01-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10327109)
Jets D won 4x more games then Smith. That's right you only use Great D line for Smith.

Hey guise! We only have the 18th pick so let's go ahead and state who we want!

LMAO

MahiMike 01-01-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10316011)
Really hard not to like Geno Smith.

No, not really.

New World Order 01-01-2014 09:43 PM

I was a Geno supporter but quickly realized how big of a moron he is. Seriously, has anyone seen a qb run out of the back of the end zone and then try to go behind the back with the football only to fumble and the play turns into a touchdown?

His TD/INT ratio and pocket awareness are god awful.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-01-2014 10:25 PM

Alex may have a bigger peen after all

BossChief 01-01-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10327109)
Jets D won 4x more games then Smith. That's right you only use Great D line for Smith.

That's bull. As I showed earlier, he had the second highest QBR of anyone during the last 4 games...you can't say he didn't play a role in the wins. He was AFC player of the week when they beat NE.

The kid needs to work at becoming consistent, other than that...he has shown to have the ability to win games in this league...even with piss poor talent around him on offense.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-01-2014 10:41 PM

Geno should be plenty cheap enough to cut or keep.


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