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Pioli Zombie 10-18-2009 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6186778)
You begin with an inflammatory statement.

And then follow with a paragraph that contains details that have already been discussed in the thread, so, what's the point?
The point is: Brady was NEVER considered a "career backup".
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OnTheWarpath15 10-18-2009 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 6186791)
Give me a ****ing break... He's feeding the Patriot and Brady legend... "We knew what we had in Brady...and that's why we gave Drew Bledsoe a 100 million dollar, record breaking contract knowing that we could get a first round pick without having to take a huge cap hit"

you're blind
Speaking of blind, I guess you missed the numerous posts that show that he was only guaranteed $6M?

Teams heavily backload contracts knowing they are never going to pay that money - as a small percentage of the extension was guaranteed.

They could have signed him to a 40 year, $900B extension, and if they only guaranteed $6M, as they did in this instance, they could have cut him the next day and not owed him a dime over the $6M they guaranteed in the deal.

DaneMcCloud 10-18-2009 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 6186791)
Give me a ****ing break... He's feeding the Patriot and Brady legend... "We knew what we had in Brady...and that's why we gave Drew Bledsoe a 100 million dollar, record breaking contract knowing that we could get a first round pick without having to take a huge cap hit"

you're blind
Then why don't YOU write a book that disputes it.

JFC.

Un****ingbelievable.

milkman 10-18-2009 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6186809)
The point is: Brady was NEVER considered a "career backup".
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And his point remains valid.

It's already been covered.

Saccopoo 10-18-2009 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6186769)
Roger Staubach was drafted so late because of his Naval commitment, and the Cowboys were able, at that time, to retain his rights until his 4 years were completed.

Bart Starr fell to the 17th round because he missed senior season to injury.

Those two picks kind of skew those numbers.
And Cassel, playing behind two Heisman winning quarterbacks doesn't? Doesn't play in college because the guys in front of him are winning Heisman's and National Championships and falls to the 7th round. But Starr falling to the 17th round because he missed his senior season is okay?

At least to me, there seems to be some cynical double standards being applied around here.

OnTheWarpath15 10-18-2009 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6186804)
Just reading the excerpts from that book, it would appear that they saw something in Brady, but weren't prepared to rely on Brady prior to TC and the going into the 2001 season.

They structured that contract to make it easy to get out of it.
Obvious to anyone who's not trying to cover their ass.

DeezNutz 10-18-2009 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6186812)
Then why don't YOU write a book that disputes it.

JFC.

Un****ingbelievable.
Just to clarify: Whitlock did NOT write the book in question.

Perhaps that has clouded the conversation.

dirk digler 10-18-2009 10:53 PM
Cassel's deal is similary structured and it is basically the franchise tag for 2 years.

OnTheWarpath15 10-18-2009 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6186806)
So then whats the big deal about the contract the Chiefs signed Cassel to?
He's guaranteed $28M.

Not $6M.

Pioli Zombie 10-18-2009 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6186793)
It's stupid to write off Sanchez because of 1 bad game.
That was already used after week 4. And week 5. He has shown little this entire season despite all the hype.
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Reaper16 10-18-2009 10:54 PM
Hey, Lemon_Pie: remember yesterday when I said that you didn't post enough for me to know if you annoy me?

I've seen enough now.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-18-2009 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6186810)
Speaking of blind, I guess you missed the numerous posts that show that he was only guaranteed $6M?

Teams heavily backload contracts knowing they are never going to pay that money - as a small percentage of the extension was guaranteed.

They could have signed him to a 40 year, $900B extension, and if they only guaranteed $6M, as they did in this instance, they could have cut him the next day and not owed him a dime over the $6M they guaranteed in the deal.
you're implying that his deal had something to do with Brady... when it's more than likely just good negotiation on the pats part

Titty Meat 10-18-2009 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6186821)
That was already used after week 4. And week 5. He has shown little this entire season despite all the hype.
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Yea, Troy Aikman sucked his first season too. You can't judge rookies after 1 year just like you can't judge a QB whos traded to a new team with shitty talent.

OnTheWarpath15 10-18-2009 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6186815)
And Cassel, playing behind two Heisman winning quarterbacks doesn't? Doesn't play in college because the guys in front of him are winning Heisman's and National Championships and falls to the 7th round. But Starr falling to the 17th round because he missed his senior season is okay?

At least to me, there seems to be some cynical double standards being applied around here.
I'm not sure how you can even compare the eras.

The things scouts are looking for and the attributes that define a "franchise QB" has changed quite a bit in 50+ years.

There weren't a lot of 6-4, 240 pound QB's back in the day.

milkman 10-18-2009 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6186815)
And Cassel, playing behind two Heisman winning quarterbacks doesn't? Doesn't play in college because the guys in front of him are winning Heisman's and National Championships and falls to the 7th round. But Starr falling to the 17th round because he missed his senior season is okay?

At least to me, there seems to be some cynical double standards being applied around here.
The fact that Cassel hasn't yet played in the SB doesn't skew those numbers.


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